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So, Shinobi said a bunch of things about Andromeda at the NeoGAF forums


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#151
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That it was basically a dozen unconnected recruitment / loyalty missions followed by the (admittedly great) suicide mission? That the response to the ME1 inventory system being clunky was to just not have one?

 

I love all three games for different reasons, but 2 isn't the flawless masterpiece nostalgia would have us believe.

God, I hope the Inventory system is back.

 

I still - to this day, curse Christina Norman's name.



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ME 2 had the best dlc(the firewalker, overlord, arrival), great characters like thane, awesome story about going into the galactic core and stopping the collectors from creating a human reaper, Miranda's body, great ending, etc. What's not to like?

 

The story is far from awesome, most of the DLC is humdrum(f*ck the Hammerhead), I never cared much for Thane, I hate catsuits in space, the human Reaper is stupid, and it's entirely pointless in the trilogy. You can completely skip ME2 and miss nothing but characters. 

 

ME2 is "rule of cool" put way above smart design. That's why I'm not at all surprised that it's your favorite.



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The story is far from awesome, most of the DLC is humdrum(f*ck the Hammerhead), I never cared much for Thane, I hate catsuits in space, the human Reaper is stupid, and it's entirely pointless in the trilogy. You can completely skip ME2 and miss nothing but characters. 

 

ME2 is "rule of cool" put way above smart design. That's why I'm not at all surprised that it's your favorite.

 

I would have liked this post if it wasn't for the ubiquitous insult. 


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This is how I rank the series myself as well, based on own personal enjoyment. I loved Mass Effect 3 and have put more hours into it (not including hours on MP here) than any other entry in the series. It had flaws. Ok a lot of flaws. And the ending was not good. But I loved it.

Mass Effect 2 did a lot of things right, and has some things better over ME3 and ME1. But I find ME2 the weakest entry, especially on story, plot, narrative what have you. Recruiting all those great, unforgettable characters was awesome, and I really enjoyed the focus on character, but ultimately there was a huge disconnect between them, as well as some rather forced and contrived additions.

I love Kasumi, she's one of my favourites, but do we need a Master Thief for taking on the Collectors? It's not like there's a Collector equivalent of the Crown Jewels that might fetch a pretty credit on the Citadel.

Thane. Yes, he's a badass. But unless there are Collector/Templars, do we need an assassin per se?

And I like Jacob. He's a likable character. But I honestly feel like you could have just condensed Miranda and Jacob into one person, you didn't need both of them.

And the Collectors by the end of the game, had, for me, overstayed their welcome.

Gameplay yes, it's great and more refined. The hub worlds, missions, everything else was great. But everything above mentioned pegs it down for me, and that's not taking into account some of the storytelling decisions in ME3, but the difference is with ME3, the plot moved forwards, for better or worse, and it didn't just stagnate like ME2's lack of plot.



Awesome for liking Miranda (I hope, as a person as well? she's a good character) but honestly i really don't see why Miranda's body is desirable.

Granted i'm gay, but seriously her body always appeared to me to be like a fetishised idealisation of a woman (I am aware of the whole perfect genes dna, i'm born to be perfect stuff ok) but even so, that body is just so unrealistically proportioned it makes Lara Croft in the early days look more like a real person. The arms on most of the female character models are like sticks, the outfit looks like it would cut off circulation from the body, and she's got weird calfs and ankles that don't look like they'd support a human body (may be the boots) and I have no idea how having her boobs strapped together so tightly could be comfortable.

But of course no one cares cause of "dat ass".

I overlook the ridiculous character model, cause Miranda is a good character, and Yvonne did a great job voicing her. Its a shame they didn't just scan in her actual body along with her face instead of this Barbie doll model.


I honestly believe its the gameplay side of it for the time that rose tinted all those reviews. If some critics actually sat back and reflected on the state of the narrative, then maybe it wouldnt be held up as so masterful after all.

I'm aware its a game and for entertainment, but with a game like ME2, game play can be amazing but surely a good story is just as important to entertainment as well as gameplay? I think the ball was dropped slightly on this one, and its why ME3 had a lot of weak story moments cause it had to make up for the narrative stagnation in ME2.

I care about " dat ass" but no. I'm more of an Ashley guy.

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The story is far from awesome, most of the DLC is humdrum(f*ck the Hammerhead), I never cared much for Thane, I hate catsuits in space, the human Reaper is stupid, and it's entirely pointless in the trilogy. You can completely skip ME2 and miss nothing but characters.

ME2 is "rule of cool" put way above smart design. That's why I'm not at all surprised that it's your favorite.

yes good use your anger, strike me down and I will become more powerful. Show this forum your True colors. Show them the evil douche you really are. Martyr me. :rolleyes:
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#156
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God, I hope the Inventory system is back.
 
I still - to this day, curse Christina Norman's name.


Haha. I hate that bloated inventory system. I suspect we will see something that falls somewhere between the extremes.

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What the **** is happening here

it's ******* amusing.

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Haha. I hate that bloated inventory system. I suspect we will see something that falls somewhere between the extremes.

what's wrong with the inventory system?

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btw, that's great news because ME1 is probably the best of the trilogy with ME3 almost at the same level. I think ME2 is a good game but it has a bad plot that feel disconnected from everything that happened on ME1 and that happens after on ME3.


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what's wrong with the inventory system?

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God, I hope the Inventory system is back.
 
I still - to this day, curse Christina Norman's name.


I hope they go back to ME2's system, myself. But IIRC the leak makes it sound more like DAI.
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yes good use your anger, strike me down and I will become more powerful. Show this forum your True colors. Show them the evil douche you really are. Martyr me. :rolleyes:

 

HA, you will not be a martyr, just another sacrifice on the altar.  ;)



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btw, that's great news because ME1 is probably the best of the trilogy with ME3 almost at the same level. I think ME2 is a good game but it has a bad plot that feel disconnected from everything that happened on ME1 and that happens after on ME3.

I don't feel that way. I'm about tied with 1 and 2. I liked the feel of two but I loved the story of one. 3 on the other hand was great, awesome story but Mass Effect 2 was the first game of mass Effect I ever played. I missed the sort of dark tone to it. Praetorian and the scion creeped me out more than the brute or cannibal. I wish we could have seen the entirety of the reapers in 3. Maybe some of the other subtypes that were mentioned. And more dlc. But bioware wanted to give multiplayer a try and it was fantastic.
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HA, you will not be a martyr, just another sacrifice on the altar. ;)

I will be a martyr to the ones who defy evil. ;) :rolleyes: Ha

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I will be a martyr to the ones who defy evil. ;) :rolleyes: Ha

 

There is no such people on BSN. only less evil.  :D



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what's wrong with the inventory system?

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Too lazy to explain? Could have told me instead of looking for a meme. So are YOU fu@#$¡% kidding me? :)

#167
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There is no such people on BSN. only less evil. :D

There are good people and bad people everywhere.

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ME2 is more of a character driven story then anything else.  That's why I think it's not your favorite.  There are numerous problems with the inventory system IN ME1, including where to go and look for your equipment, who's holding what weapon, who can use an upgrade, etc etc etc.   Plus, omnigelling stuff is a PITA.



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I care about " dat ass" but no. I'm more of an Ashley guy.

You mean an Assley guy?



#170
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You mean an Assley guy?

oh trust me Shep got plenty of that. LOL

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I would have liked this post if it wasn't for the ubiquitous insult. 

 

As far as Killroy insults go that one was pretty low key. Haha. 


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#173
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ME2 is more of a character driven story then anything else. That's why I think it's not your favorite.


Having a ton of characters doesn't make a story character-driven.

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Having a ton of characters doesn't make a story character-driven.

 

 

No, but making the story about the characters and not so much about the story (although the story is there) does.


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With ME2, the only real way to advance the plot, was to meet and recruit the characters, and to get the best outcome, you had to talk, get to know, and help win your characters loyalty for maximum efficiency in taking on the Collectors, which was the end game set from the very beginning.

 

The characters in ME2 drive the narrative and plot more than the other two games, therefore I'd say ME2 is a character-driven story. Though again, it is debatable as to how much of a story ME2 has.