I think the natural state of the world is something like that (there is even the fade!)with a Titan under the world to sustain it like the greek myth.
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The Maker was disappointed with lazy spirits who had no desire to create anything new, so he made humans as a sort of middle of the road creature, who would be driven to...well, make stuff for him...
Implying that Maker existed in the first place and in the way Chantry depicts him.
Implying that Maker existed in the first place and in the way Chantry depicts him.
Somewhere in the Masked empire he implied that there was no one aside from the elven race in the world and that the elves were the first race to appear,so either humans descended from spirits like the elves or from the elves themselves.
His statement was meant to indicate that, at one point, only the elves ruled in Thedas. That they were the nobles, and thus, there were lower classes. It wasn't an "all elves are equal" utopia.
To touch the religious side...3 of the races talk about spirituality, about the body is a vessel, only Dwarves never talk about that, by means other than Dwarves have duality existence, one in material world and another in spiritual...at least this what these 3 races believe.
But "body is a vessel" is not new, sin DA:O we hear about abominations, about Flemeth possessing her daughters, "Vessel of the Spirit" of Wynne, spirits possess trees and corpses...it imply that there are at least two worlds, material and spiritual, peoples in Thedas believe "the after life"
The question is if the world and The Fade was one before The Veil, what is material and what is not?
First there was nothing, then there was the Fade, then there was the Fade and the Real. The elvhen built their empire within the parts where the Fade and Real meshed together. Then the Fade was cut off completely, likely by Fen'Harel. And now we have the world we know today in the DA universe.
1:1 In the beginning, The Maker created....nothing
1:2 Then The Maker said, "Let there be The Fade", and there was The Fade
1:3 Then The Maker said "Let there be spirits and demons", but The Maker saw them are boring creatures
1:4 Then The Maker said "Let there be human and elves", but some human find the way to breach The Maker's throne
1;5 Then The Maker said "F*** you all, I am leaving!", The Maker curse them all and thus they become the first Darkspawn
1:6 Then Solas come in and said "I will make The Veil to separate The Fade from The Fade"
1:7 And the Dwarves says "what the stone just happened?"......
1;8 Qunari came in and said "Everybody must submit to the Qun! No question!"
I don't think his statement was meant to describe the political asset of Thedas at the time of the elves rather to describe the races that were present into the world.His statement was meant to indicate that, at one point, only the elves ruled in Thedas. That they were the nobles, and thus, there were lower classes. It wasn't an "all elves are equal" utopia.
The question is if the world and The Fade was one before The Veil, what is material and what is not?
The titans and the physical world can be interpreted like a concentration of fade energies pretty much like mass and energy which are faces of the same coin.The floating rocks are supposed to be a hint maybe... You can see a bunch floating up in the breach. Plus Cole refering to the material world as slow and heavy. And all the references to things singing or having a song. These are maybe all supposed to be references to things like gravity, mass, and vibrational frequencies/harmonics.
Basically, the Dwarves and some other races populated the world first, and then the Elves came on their White Ships and settled there. After they built an empire and all that The Conjunction of the Spheres happened, which brought the humans to the world - among other things.
The true, natural state of Thedas is a verdant paradise with millions of bears. How could any environment support so many bears, you ask? The smaller bears eat the smaller wildlife, and the great bears eat the smaller bears.
The titans and the physical world can be interpreted like a concentration of fade energies pretty much like mass and energy which are faces of the same coin.
Energy as the property of matters of the real universe seem to exist in Thedas as well independently from fade energy which is entirely another thing that doesn't make much sense unlike conventional energy...
Basically, the Dwarves and some other races populated the world first, and then the Elves came on their White Ships and settled there. After they built an empire and all that The Conjunction of the Spheres happened, which brought the humans to the world - among other things.
The conjunction brought the elves who were spirits who took bodies.In truth nobody know how humans and animals were created in Thedas if from evolution than it means that the aliens are the elves here.
It is possible, remember the Old Oak in DA:O? he said "It was the Elves who plant the seed, grow the forest to suit their need"
The floating rocks are supposed to be a hint maybe... You can see a bunch floating up in the breach. Plus Cole refering to the material world as slow and heavy. And all the references to things singing or having a song. These are maybe all supposed to be references to things like gravity, mass, and vibrational frequencies/harmonics.
In tresspasser, the Inquisitor tells Bull it isn't a physical barrier but more like a vibration that holds back the fade, or something like that.
That is not the answer of what is material and not, in the world where magic exist, i don't think there is even gravity
Sorry for double post...but i just remembered Arcane Warrior skills...
Fade Shroud - The arcane warrior now only partly exists in the physical realm while Combat Magic is active. Spanning the gap between the real world and the Fade grants a bonus to mana regeneration and a chance to avoid attacks.
Maybe that explained a bit about what people really look like before The Veil...like this...
My personal theory that prior to the man-made elf-made veil, the world was essentially organized into two general overlapping sections: the 'real' part and the 'fade' part.
But it was organized like a sort of gradient. The higher you up you go, like toward the surface or the sky, the more prone you are to encountering magical energies that can be bent by will, emotion, memories and the like. The deeper you, like underground and toward Thedas's core, you will find the 'real' part of the world that so immutable that it refuses to change easily.
These two 'parts' intersect. Most notably toward the surface, where sky and underground meet. It is also possible the two parts intersected at random intervals where certain events happened (i.e battlegrounds) or where the Titan's presence is felt near the surface. But that's as far as that theory goes.
Maybe the state of the world changes overtime (like climate)? Or maybe it goes in some form of a never ending cycle?
Sorry for double post...but i just remembered Arcane Warrior skills...
Fade Shroud - The arcane warrior now only partly exists in the physical realm while Combat Magic is active. Spanning the gap between the real world and the Fade grants a bonus to mana regeneration and a chance to avoid attacks.
Maybe that explained a bit about what people really look like before The Veil...like this...
That's the same thing of the spiritual warriors...
My personal theory that prior to the
man-madeelf-made veil, the world was essentially organized into two general overlapping sections: the 'real' part and the 'fade' part.
But it was organized like a sort of gradient. The higher you up you go, like toward the surface or the sky, the more prone you are to encountering magical energies that can be bent by will, emotion, memories and the like. The deeper you, like underground and toward Thedas's core, you will find the 'real' part of the world that so immutable that it refuses to change easily.
These two 'parts' intersect. Most notably toward the surface, where sky and underground meet. It is also possible the two parts intersected at random intervals where certain events happened (i.e battlegrounds) or where the Titan's presence is felt near the surface. But that's as far as that theory goes.
Maybe the state of the world changes overtime (like climate)? Or maybe it goes in some form of a never ending cycle?
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