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[MeinChurro]

I have been playing for 11 hours on this character and just noticed this, I don't think it was like this before, but I can't be sure. I load up old saves and his arms are to his sides, but as soon as I switch armor (put on take off to test), it changes to this odd position. I can't stand it. I will delete the character if I can't fix this. If it is supposed to be like that fine, I guess, maybe it just looks ridiculous because of the armor, but I don't think the arm position is right. 

 

http://i.imgur.com/Hhs0XAj.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/sYXQ4g1.jpg

 

 

No mods vanilla pc.

 

 

[Taki17]

Does not seem like the standard posture to me either. Compared to Blackwall wearing the same armor.

It is clearly visible that the left arm is much farther away from the body. Does the problem appear with other armor models too?

 

Also, on the screenshots, your character is standing on a slope, that might affect posture, but I'm not entirely sure

[nightscrawl]

That is not a bug. That is a standard posture for the male warrior to account for the positioning of the 1h weapon sheathed on the hip. It is less obvious if you're wearing a sword, as the entire blade and hilt fill up that space. The positioning remains, though a bit less obvious, even while wearing the Skyhold attire (aka PJs).

 

Unfortunately for the OP, his warrior appears to be a 2h, so he doesn't have anything to fill up the space, so it looks even more awkward.

 

 

Keep in mind that the female warrior has a different resting position altogether, so you won't see this with Cassandra or the fem Inquisitor. I don't recall how Krem looks or what animations he uses (probably male... hopefully).

[MeinChurro]

Got some more. First are from 4 hour earlier save showing arms in a different resting position, more even close to sides. Then I took of the armor and put it back on and it reverted to the new left arm sticking out, and speaking of that the right arm seems too close in the body as well. Other are from milestone about where the game is now.

 

http://imgur.com/a/W5fKy

 

Does not seem like the standard posture to me either. Compared to Blackwall wearing the same armor.

It is clearly visible that the left arm is much farther away from the body. Does the problem appear with other armor models too?

 

Also, on the screenshots, your character is standing on a slope, that might affect posture, but I'm not entirely sure

That isn't the issue I have reloaded, saved in new area, restarted game, restarted computer, loaded earlier saves. It doesn't seem to effect my female, yet at least, but I haven't taken off her armor and put it back on it see what happens. I don't know whats wrong because this posture is becoming the new posture even in old saves on this character, as soon as I take off his armor I saved with. 

 

I need a fix, or I have to delete him, and if it effects my females too, then I don't know. I do have trials on, but how could it effect my older saves on him as well?!

[MeinChurro]

^ If you really look at Blackwall in that image, his left arm IS a bit further extended compared to his right, it's just less noticeable in that lighting, angle, etc.

 

That is not a bug. That is a standard posture for the warrior PC to account for the positioning of the 1h weapon sheathed on the hip. It is less obvious if you're wearing a sword, as the entire blade and hilt fill up that space. The positioning remains, though a bit less obvious, even while wearing the Skyhold attire (aka PJs).

 

Unfortunately for the OP, his warrior appears to be a 2h, so he doesn't have anything to fill up the space, so it looks even more awkward.

Maybe I will just respec and use s&s I guess? If this is the correct posture? I don't understand why my older saves load in with his arms closer to his sides (Shown in first screenshots in second set) if this is the correct posture. I was playing and just noticed it, and cannot get it out of my head! 

 

I think the sturdy battlemaster or whatever varients have a horn on the hip on the left, maybe that is what the space is supposed to be for. This armor has nothing on the hips, and it isn't as bulky as the preorder armor starter either, so it is a lot more noticeable.

 

I was hoping there would be some screenshots of a male with the same posture to reassure me!

[nightscrawl]

I edited my previous post a bit.

 

I play SnS and it took a bit getting used to. It doesn't bother me now. Also, just for reference, I only wear crafted armor, primarily the vanguard model, so I never wear that model in your screenshots and I still see it.

 

You might try getting used to it?

[MeinChurro]

I edited my previous post a bit.

 

I play SnS and it took a bit getting used to. It doesn't bother me now. Also, just for reference, I only wear crafted armor, primarily the vanguard model, so I never wear that model in your screenshots and I still see it.

 

You might try getting used to it?

If that is what its supposed to look like I guess I will have to if I want to play a male, it would be either this or nothing. I only really noticed it because of this armor. I only put it on because I didn't want to waste gold on a schematic until after skyhold so I could rush canyon merchant and grab tier 3 schematics. I have a defender armor with a horn schematic I found maybe that will work, I hope. 

[MeinChurro]

No, his arm is definitely bugged this cannot be right. I just got to skyhold (grudgingly after 20 hours, wasted) and I was right! His arm is definitely NOT supposed to look like that normally, or at least armors without the horn. I only noticed because of the character outfits. The ones that have horns on the right hip instead of the left. His left arm rests normally and his right stretches out, I switched to other outfits, like the formal and his arms are BOTH resting normally. My old saves load up with his arms resting correctly, until I switch armor, so I have no idea how I got this bug, or how to fix it. THAT is why I noticed it yesterday, because it wasn't normal. I do have trials on, but I don't know how that could effect it. I will just have to delete him and play a female, I guess. It is too bad, the Cassandra romance was getting good. every time I pan the camera to his arm and look at it, and I just cannot stand it.

 

http://imgur.com/a/NeSVk

 

Here are examples. First to you can clearly see arm placement with defender armor, and vanguard armor. Both are stretched with vanguard that has a horn on the right hip.  Then inquisitor outfit with horn on right hip arm, compared to formal outfit with no horn. Right arm is extended with the coat outerwear, and both arms resting normally with formal (how the arms look when I load up old saves). Unfortunately the last two are difficult to see with the bad quality of the shots, but if you look closely you can see same camera angle, right arm stretched out with coat, right arm normal with formal.

 

I'll wait to delete just in case there actually is a fix, but I would also like to see someone else's human male arms to tell for sure.

 

Here I downloaded a save file off nexus of a male. He is a rogue, I know, so maybe the arms rest differently because of class. Well I am looking for a warrior save right now, look at my characters arms (second image).

 

http://imgur.com/a/1u3Iy

[MeinChurro]

I found out how to fix it to an extent. If I put on the defender armor, avvar armor, whatever, that has both arms even, and then put on a regular set like orlesian army warrior armor, then his arms stay in that position and they look fine. However, I can't get it to work with armor I am wearing currently with a horn on his left hip, his right arm is always closer to his body, and it looks awkward. It is definitely something with the horn and the arm stretching out to prevent clipping I think, it is the only common denominator. If you have a male who uses armor without a horn I think it would be fine. I think both of his arms are supposed to be stretched out since the defender armor shows this, but on my other armor in earlier screenshots his right arm rests closer to his body instead of staying out.

 

The horn bugs out the animation though so you need to put on armor that has its own arm resting animation (like avvar armor) to reset position on sets that dont have a horn. Same with skyhold outfit. If you wear the skyhold outerwear with the horn on the hip your right arm will be stretched out, and if you put on a different outerwear his right arm will still be stretched out. If I put on formal to reset the arms, and then put on one of the first two skyhold outerwears his arm fixes, and rests normally. I haven't taken screenshots to prove it, but I can if those are necessary.

[Aliceeverafter]

i really think that is just how he stands. My guy stands like this all the time, and in cut scenes my fem quizzy walks like a bloke.

I think it's something about DA that you need to accept, learn to love, and move on

[BansheeOwnage]

 

Keep in mind that the female warrior has a different resting position altogether, so you won't see this with Cassandra or the fem Inquisitor. I don't recall how Krem looks or what animations he uses (probably male... hopefully).

Actually the female resting position is the same, for the same reason (and it bugs me to death, especially at Skyhold)

I mean really, it looks like she's carrying groceries. That is not a natural position.

 

Bioware is too lazy to have a second resting position for casual wear Classic Bioware, really

 

As for Krem, he uses the same male body model every other human does, so it'll be the same

[nightscrawl]

Actually the female resting position is the same, for the same reason (and it bugs me to death, especially at Skyhold)

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I mean really, it looks like she's carrying groceries. That is not a natural position.
 
Bioware is too lazy to have a second resting position for casual wear Classic Bioware, really
 
As for Krem, he uses the same male body model every other human does, so it'll be the same

 
Oh I was primarily thinking of the position of the hips and legs, which are different. But yes, the arms do appear the same.
 
And uh... why does your Skyhold look all weird and pale; it's like it's on the moon with that sky.

[BansheeOwnage]

 
Oh I was primarily thinking of the position of the hips and legs, which are different. But yes, the arms do appear the same.
 
And uh... why does your Skyhold look all weird and pale; it's like it's on the moon with that sky.

Ah, I see. Yes, the legs/hips are a bit different; the male ones look a bit less relaxed/casual actually, but they look fine to me.

 

Oh, yeah, that was actually the reason I took this shot to begin with. After talking to Cole on the ramparts after WPHW (at night), Skyhold reloads into daytime and looks like that for a few seconds, which is also why the Inquisitor is standing right on the ledge, since she was sitting on it with Cole. It's always a bit odd when you have conversations like that, because they make it seem like they only happen in the Inquisitor's head. It's day, then it's night, then it's day and the person you're talking to literally disappears. Although it is Cole

 

Anyway, you're totally right, it looks like it's on the moon!

[MeinChurro]

Lol, I know I am still on about this, but I decided not to give up on the character I spent so much time on. As long as you stay away from armors with no horn on one hip or the other it is completely fine. I got my Reaver armor from an operation, Griffon plate, and now since I finished Jaws of Hakkon with the awesome Dragon Hunter Plate the arms rest normally! Yes, for the first time finishing JoH. I have all the dlc, but I have been putting it off for a LONG time. I bought JoH as soon as it came out Lol! I am very happy that with the DLC armors they chose to forego the horn. I am never wearing an armor with a horn again on my warriors, well male at least, I have never had a female warrior so I don't know what it looks like.

 

My character is cured! Maxwell is looking good! 

 

 

 

Also, this game is enormous! Way bigger than I remember.. I have 75+ hours on this character already, and I haven't even been to the exalted plains or finished any of the later regions... in the base game! Haven't started the descent yet either...