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[LPPrince]

I just find it a shock that the volunteers are not to allowed to just join a conversation. Why would people who obviously enjoy the community willingly not allow themselves to be a part of it.

EA/Bioware obviously trust them to fairly moderate the forum, so why don't they trust them to keep that going and join in with people?

 

 

Volunteer moderators/community moderators are;they're just held up to certain standards fitting their position and expected not to break them. I think Priestly once said thats only happened twice or so. I remember one, friend of mine was made a moderator here and he made a mistake eventually which cost him his role as a moderator. He basically stopped posting after that.

 

Far as posting goes, volunteer mods can post as much as they used to back in the day far as I know. Reason you might not see it as often is because of personal lives and such.

 

If there is some sort of rule about how much you can post and be active as a mod, then thats a huge mistake. Part of the reason this forum is so lousy now is because we hardly get mods and devs actively posting in the amounts that we used to get. While a mod posting often isn't the same as a dev posting often, we need both to make this place feel like a place you'd want to be visiting.

 

Right now(for a good long while now actually) this place has been on a downward spiral and I don't know who in the higher ranking positions of Bioware/EA thinks this is a good idea but I disagree.

 

Then again I've disagreed with most of whats happened around here for too long now. Feels like the few posts I make every now and again fall on deaf ears right there with everyone else's concerned posts.

 

I think I just care way too much about this place. Probably a result of spending the better part of a decade here. But man do I hate what this place has become.

[Jesse Reid]

I just find it a shock that the volunteers are not to allowed to just join a conversation. Why would people who obviously enjoy the community willingly not allow themselves to be a part of it.

EA/Bioware obviously trust them to fairly moderate the forum, so why don't they trust them to keep that going and join in with people?

The paid moderators work for ModSquad and their company moderates a lot of different game forums. Many of the volunteer moderators have over a 1000 posts but just aren't as active these days as they used to be.

[voteDC]

So the post from a moderator on the previous page was talking about the Mod Squad when they said that most moderators were not permitted to post?

That I can understand, as not permitting volunteers to post would be wrong indeed.

[LPPrince]

Its not just volunteer mods with over 1000 posts that are less active than they used to be. I recall a day in particular when I had 600+ posts made in 24 hours. I think I've posted less than twenty in half a year. Then again, reasons.

[voteDC]

Over 600 posts in a day? Dear lord I don't even use 500 text messages in a month, I can't imagine posting that much in one day.

I do end up wondering though if any of the forums the Mod Squad look after have off-topic sections? I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they don't. I shall have to have a little investigate.

 

Love a good conspiracy theory that's my trouble.

[LPPrince]

Over 600 posts in a day? Dear lord I don't even use 500 text messages in a month, I can't imagine posting that much in one day.

I do end up wondering though if any of the forums the Mod Squad look after have off-topic sections? I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they don't. I shall have to have a little investigate.

 

Love a good conspiracy theory that's my trouble.

 

 

It was after some news broke out about one of the games, can't remember when. At its highest it was 632. I wasn't even trying to either, there was just A LOT to say. Fat chance of that happening now with the forum in the state that its in.

 

Spoiler

[Jedi Comedian]

I GOT 15! YEAH!

Then you're a hero.

[nightscrawl]

Why on Earth would you volunteer to do a job and agree to the stipulation that you aren't allowed to contribute to the forum?

 
Participating can lead to accusations of bias. While it's true that everyone has bias about one thing or other, it's another to make it obvious if you are supposed to be in a role that has the potential of taking disciplinary action. Can't you just see the complaints of, "I got a warning point from BioMod57, a known SJW feminazi, for saying Cassandra looked like a man," or some ridiculous thing?

A volunteer might agree to that stipulation because they care about the boards and want to be of service. After all, that is the very point of being a volunteer; one wants to be of service.

 

 

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I read the following posts about volunteer posting, so never mind. But my point still stands. Even if that were a requirement, I think people would still volunteer even if there were that stipulation.

Modificata da nightscrawl, 18 giugno 2016 - 01:45 .

[voteDC]

Yet by participating you have less need to take action because people know you are active and so they won't be as inclined to mess about.

The problem with the silent overseer form of moderation is that you become less inclined to browse the forum, because what's the point if you can't take part, and so fall back on the reporting system. How much stuff gets missed because it isn't reported?

Using the xbox.com forum as an example again. There is currently spam there that has been left for over ten hours. So either no moderator has browsed the forum for 10 hours, no-one's reported it, or the reports are simply being ignored. I'm not sure which of those three choices is worse.

I don't want to see that happening here.

[Puddi III]

You're still here and you haven't given up all hope on the moderation employed?
 

Participating can lead to accusations of bias. While it's true that everyone has bias about one thing or other, it's another to make it obvious if you are supposed to be in a role that has the potential of taking disciplinary action. Can't you just see the complaints of, "I got a warning point from BioMod57, a known SJW feminazi, for saying Cassandra looked like a man," or some ridiculous thing?

Preposterous, who would pick biased SJWs to be volunteer mods?

[LPPrince]

I'm willing to bet the number of user-provided reports has drastically fallen with time. And that is not a good thing.

[voteDC]

It certainly isn't. A user based reporting system works best when they feel they can trust the people the reports are going to.

Can anyone here say that they trust the current crop of moderators? I'm sure the real life friends of the invisible volunteer mods would of course support their friends, yet why should the rest of us?

Jesse makes the point that many of the volunteers have over a 1000 posts, just aren't active anymore. I consider myself fairly active and I'm barely reaching 2500 posts. How did the people with less than a 1000 get considered for a moderator post? Why do they keep the over 1000 mods if they aren't active?

Nothing about the system as it stands would make me inclined to trust how the moderation on the forum is run. And with a system that relies on user reports to find wrongdoing that is dangerous indeed.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I got my first warning point last night for a post that, in my opinion, is nothing compared to others in the thread it was made.

[LPPrince]

I got my first warning point last night for a post that, in my opinion, is nothing compared to others in the thread it was made.

 

 

Were they not also given points? Was yours reported and theirs not? I've had the instance of getting a point and then having it removed because the reason I got it was questionable.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Were they not also given points? Was yours reported and theirs not? I've had the instance of getting a point and then having it removed because the reason I got it was questionable.

Given that my post was removed while theirs weren't, I have no reason to believe they were also given warnings.

Nothing about that situation made sense to me. I've PM'd the mod responsible but have yet to hear back.

[LPPrince]

Given that my post was removed while theirs weren't, I have no reason to believe they were also given warnings.

Nothing about that situation made sense to me. I've PM'd the mod responsible but have yet to hear back.

 

 

You won't. I've messaged the paid-for mods and not received responses back. Message the community manager.

 

I hesitated to type that last sentence, but thats what you're supposed to do apparently.

[Lady Artifice]

I would very much like my warning point gone. 

[Dean_the_Young]

Going on two years now for me.

 

You're back! Or posting!

 

Welcome back, Maria.

[SmilesJA]

Volunteer moderators/community moderators are;they're just held up to certain standards fitting their position and expected not to break them. I think Priestly once said thats only happened twice or so. I remember one, friend of mine was made a moderator here and he made a mistake eventually which cost him his role as a moderator. He basically stopped posting after that.

 

Far as posting goes, volunteer mods can post as much as they used to back in the day far as I know. Reason you might not see it as often is because of personal lives and such.

 

If there is some sort of rule about how much you can post and be active as a mod, then thats a huge mistake. Part of the reason this forum is so lousy now is because we hardly get mods and devs actively posting in the amounts that we used to get. While a mod posting often isn't the same as a dev posting often, we need both to make this place feel like a place you'd want to be visiting.

 

Right now(for a good long while now actually) this place has been on a downward spiral and I don't know who in the higher ranking positions of Bioware/EA thinks this is a good idea but I disagree.

 

Then again I've disagreed with most of whats happened around here for too long now. Feels like the few posts I make every now and again fall on deaf ears right there with everyone else's concerned posts.

 

I think I just care way too much about this place. Probably a result of spending the better part of a decade here. But man do I hate what this place has become.

 

I miss the off topic thread......

[voteDC]

You won't. I've messaged the paid-for mods and not received responses back. Message the community manager.

 

I hesitated to type that last sentence, but thats what you're supposed to do apparently.

The paid mods, the Mod Squad, proudly boast on their website that they chat with customers and manage communities. Yet when it comes to doing that the response is "talk to Bioware"?

All that is going to accomplish is to antagonise the person looking for a response.

[lynroy]

I got my first warning point last night for a post that, in my opinion, is nothing compared to others in the thread it was made.

Welcome to the club. I'm sitting on three undeserved warning points that I got in the past month.  Seriously, none of them should have been given. The only one I ever deserved was the very first one I got. The mod that issued the warning was kind enough to set an expiration date for it, so it only lasted three days. I wish more moderators used that feature.

[LPPrince]

The paid mods, the Mod Squad, proudly boast on their website that they chat with customers and manage communities. Yet when it comes to doing that the response is "talk to Bioware"?

All that is going to accomplish is to antagonise the person looking for a response.

 

 

I don't get the logic either, but you just can't talk to people anymore. I was given a warning point way back for something I shouldn't have been given one for, messaged the mod who gave it, got no response, then messaged the community manager who fixed the issue, who told me to message him if there needed to be a contested point, but with him not visibly around EVER, I doubt anyone knows to do that.

 

This place is *insert slew of negative words here*.

[voteDC]

I don't even know who the community manager is, none of the Bioware employees I've seen post have that as their title. So I guess I may have seen them post but never realised it.

[LPPrince]

I don't even know who the community manager is, none of the Bioware employees I've seen post have that as their title. So I guess I may have seen them post but never realised it.

 

 

Conal Pierse. Not surprised you didn't know. Hell I forgot his name(slipped my mind) and I had to dig.

 

1. Google "Bioware Community Manager" and all you get is Jessica Merizan(who was awesome by the way) but left the position FOREVER ago

2. Searched here, may have missed it but didn't see it

3. Eventually had to find a thread that was made by someone after Off Topic was closed who called him out to get his attention

 

If you want to find him, and this is pretty sad, you've probably got a better shot of reaching him on his twitter than you do here.

 

Cause here he has zero visible presence outside of maybe lurking now and then. Which is why there are people who still believe Jessica Merizan is the community manager;she was the last CM who had an actual presence on the forum and hers is the name that comes up if you search on Google.

[voteDC]

Thanks for that. I don't foresee me ever needing a warning point removed but it's useful to know who can actually help if it ever happens.

Goes a little way to proving what I mentioned in another thread as well. EA don't want a forum, they want us all to move to social media.