Well, they did it without sacrificing their quests/narrative quality.
Maybe Bioware can learn, and gamers win in the end, but I think DAI was their shot to already do this.
I'm not convinced the side-questing would have been significantly better if they hadn't gone overboard with the world map. It was a factor but the largest contributing factor was probably the timescale.
Exactly, every side quest I've played so far, is as fleshed out as the main story missions.They did it without sacrificing their quests/narrative quality...
Maybe Bioware can learn, and gamers win in the end, but I think DAI was their shot to already do this.
What I care about now is what CDProjekt does next. Not what Bioware learns (although they might.. and like I said, that'll be good for gamers).
I never liked dragon age no matter how hard I forced myself to play it so I'm glad it was the first to use frostbite. Hopefully they'll iron out the kinks for mass effect andromeda.
Pretty much - it's not really bad, but honestly:
Who wants to look at dopey, whiny elves when you can get excited with Asari and Krogan?
The dwarf guys just don't cut it. And the oxen people are really weird sexy fetish - I am not into that.
I know I'm getting a quality game because it's MASS EFFECT.
We must be living in different universes.
Who wants to look at dopey, whiny elves when you can get excited with Asari and Krogan?
Someone who isn't a fan of blue space babes made solely for the thrill, and not a fan of "proud warrior race" archetypes. Also, they're all as human as we are when it comes down to it, so what's interesting about them?
The gaming industry in itself is a huge open world that can be fun to explore! There are so many other games to be excited for until ME:A comes around. Plus the general public haven't seen much of anything with regards to this game, so in a way its good that expectations are low. Lets see what EA play has to offer and maybe you might feel different
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EA Play will probably show another 2:40 min ME:A cinematic teaser. The smart ones will take the teaser with lots of salt, if DA:I is anything to go by. Plus, reading the "fine print", one may also come across the words "representative of the game". Since "representative" does not mean "actual", a bait and switch is not beyond the range of possibilities. All legal, of course.
If there is a demo video of the game, I bet another t1t for a tat that Bio won't mention the hardware it was played on nor the effort on porting the game from console to the PC.
What may be announced is EA's vision for VR games... they do have something cooking.
Currently, playing Stellaris and ME multiplayer.
Someone who isn't a fan of blue space babes made solely for the thrill, and not a fan of "proud warrior race" archetypes. Also, they're all as human as we are when it comes down to it, so what's interesting about them?
Yea, at least the blue space babes and the proud warriors set off a kick and not feelings of pity and sorrow. But whatever floats your boat, it's good DA covers these so we don't need to see sad space elves in Andromeda. (Though tossing them off the cliff like Tali would be an interesting twist).
They did god open areas in DAI. You cant complain when theres memory shortage. I hope that for MEA the systems(PS4, XB1 PC) will have enough memory for bigger areas(specially if they wont be forced to make PS3 and X360 versions).
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Massive open areas with EMPTY content is worthless.
Pretty much - it's not really bad, but honestly:
Who wants to look at dopey, whiny elves when you can get excited with Asari and Krogan?
The dwarf guys just don't cut it. And the oxen people are really weird sexy fetish - I am not into that.
Lol I seriously can't do dragon age. Trying to coral my dimwit teammates...demons control these lands now.
I just hope they get all of that smoothened out. If not I'm going to be adding to your chalice of infinite tears. I think I'll be alright, I'm kind of geeked about space and science so I'll probably be in line at GameStop for my collectors edition in N7 armor at midnight. True story
Corral.. you mean the follower tactics/mechanics? Yeah, it sucks. Other DA games weren't that sketchy.
Lol I seriously can't do dragon age. Trying to coral my dimwit teammates...demons control these lands now.
I just hope they get all of that smoothened out. If not I'm going to be adding to your chalice of infinite tears. I think I'll be alright, I'm kind of geeked about space and science so I'll probably be in line at GameStop for my collectors edition in N7 armor at midnight. True story
Take the Krogan costume. Headbutt people. No more standing in a line!
"Hahaaha!!" on your way home.
I think ME:A was delay for this reason, good move for Bioware.
Corral.. you mean the follower tactics/mechanics? Yeah, it sucks. Other DA games weren't that sketchy.
Lol I ran as a tank companioned by 3 mages of each spec. Those idiots always got right in the fray, dps went down and had a dozen 30 minute battles running circles and reviving. Frustrated just thinking about it. I just could not figure out how to get them to stay back besides micro managing and slowing down the fights even further.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes the commands didn't seem to work.. I don't know what's up with that.
Positive thing is ME will probably be like the old ones and you won't even control companions. Just hope the AI is decent. At least, that was one of Casey Hudson's philosophies about the games. Maybe they changed it now that he's gone.
After the storm over ME3,
Dragon Age Inquisition wins consensus Game of the Year 2014.
Do I expect DAI to have some influence on MEA? Yes.
I just hope it's the right things, not the filler...
After the storm over ME3,
Dragon Age Inquisition wins consensus Game of the Year 2014.
Do I expect DAI to have some influence on MEA? Yes.
I just hope it's the right things, not the filler...
And yet still shady about their sales. At least I know how well FO4 or W3 actually did.
Lol I ran as a tank companioned by 3 mages of each spec. Those idiots always got right in the fray, dps went down and had a dozen 30 minute battles running circles and reviving. Frustrated just thinking about it. I just could not figure out how to get them to stay back besides micro managing and slowing down the fights even further.
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Those idiots were the focus of many complaints aimed at Bio, in the DA:I forums. A game that Bio marketed as graphical awesome but failed to mention they injected long range idiots with delusions of tankiness.
And yet still shady about their sales. At least I know how well FO4 or W3 actually did.
Personally I don't blame EA for not releasing sales numbers, I dread what these forums would be like when people would be quoting them and speaking if they were experts about how "this company sold 'x' number of copies and you only sold 'y' so copy their game so we can complain you copied them".
Personally I don't blame EA for not releasing sales numbers, I dread what these forums would be like when people would be quoting them and speaking if they were experts about how "this company sold 'x' number of copies and you only sold 'y' so copy their game so we can complain you copied them".
If it's so great though, I expect more bragging or pride.. or..something. That's all.
I don't know what fans would think. Plenty of developers are transparent, both on cost and sales.. I don't see any big deal made about it.
EA doesn't do this because the fans though. They used to release numbers, but they hide everything behind "division" numbers now. Like they won't say what individual games do... just what their divisions do. It's easier to save face when FIFA kicks ass, but NBA Live tanks.
If it's so great though, I expect more bragging or pride.. or..something. That's all.
I don't know what fans would think. Plenty of developers are transparent, both on cost and sales.. I don't see any big deal made about it.
EA doesn't do this because the fans though. They used to release numbers, but they hide everything behind "division" numbers now. Like they won't say what individual games do... just what their divisions do. It's easier to save face when FIFA kicks ass, but NBA Live tanks.
I know EA doesn't do it because of the fans, I am glad they don't do it because of the fans. I think EA does it more because of investors and how they were sued over press releases about Battlefield 4. Even if BioWare boasted I think people would look for ways to poke holes in what is being said, I remember many different posts ripping apart the investor press release where they said something about the initial sales being the best for any BioWare game and that was twisted a lot.
So much DAI bashing on this damn site. Tired of it.
After the storm over ME3,
Dragon Age Inquisition wins consensus Game of the Year 2014.
Do I expect DAI to have some influence on MEA? Yes.
I just hope it's the right things, not the filler...
Couldn't have said it better myself.
MEA isn't going to be a DAI clone, people. And if it is, don't let the door hit you on the way off the site.
I know EA doesn't do it because of the fans, I am glad they don't do it because of the fans. I think EA does it more because of investors and how they were sued over press releases about Battlefield 4. Even if BioWare boasted I think people would look for ways to poke holes in what is being said, I remember many different posts ripping apart the investor press release where they said something about the initial sales being the best for any BioWare game and that was twisted a lot.
That's because in these statements, you make yourself appear as good as possible, so you tell the good things in the best way possible, carefully phrased as to not be caught in a lie later, and omit any problems.
In this case, we can be pretty sure that DAI had the best sales at launch as they said, though we don't know how long a time period is considered part of the launch, but we can also be pretty sure that DAI didn't continue to be Bioware's best-selling game, because were that the case, they would've said that. Nothing in all that is bad - because "DAI did not continue to be Bioware's best-selling game" isn't saying anything bad. It's just not the best that could be said. Still, it is always advisable to pay attention to the things not said.
As for not bragging more, there is probably an order from high-up to say nothing about sales, which is normal in a publicly-listed company. Anything they're allowed to say would be another statement that doesn't say much.
So much DAI bashing on this damn site. Tired of it.
Same here. Still, I understand concern about MEA including things people didn't like so much in DAI exactly because it was successful. I really like DAI, and it does a lot of things well, but it also has a lot of collection quests with almost no plot at all. A different balance of plot-related content and exploration-related content would be desirable for MEA as well as for the next DA game. I want to explore, but I want to find more than five quests "collect n of X" and two NPCs to talk with in a whole area.
Same here. Still, I understand concern about MEA including things people didn't like so much in DAI exactly because it was successful. I really like DAI, and it does a lot of things well, but it also has a lot of collection quests with almost no plot at all. A different balance of plot-related content and exploration-related content would be desirable for MEA as well as for the next DA game. I want to explore, but I want to find more than five quests "collect n of X" and two NPCs to talk with in a whole area.
To me, the argument has always seemed silly. "Can you go find my son and let him know his mother can't breathe? She needs his potion," is a lot more acceptable in Thedas than it is in entire galaxies. I don't see fetch quests in Mass Effect, yet people are just so concerned over that little detail.
The way people talk on this forum, it's like DAI is the worst game in the whole entire world. I loved it.
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