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[Cunning Villain]

Oh wow, you got to open up with it? That's freaking awesome. If you're looking for a couple anime that scratch some of the same itch, definitely give Psycho Pass or Fate/Zero a shot. Might fill the void, at least to a small extent, especially Psycho Pass. 

 

Well, I opened up with Death Note and then to Darker than Black and Code Geass. I've watched a lot of anime since then and none quite compare to those two (Darker than Black and Code Geass). I watched the first two or three episodes of Psycho-Pass a couple of months back, but I haven't watched it since.  Not because it's a bad show, it just fell out of rotation. I'll pick it up again sooner or later. I've also been burned by a lot of anime―Sword Art Online is the first that comes to mind―so I've gotten pretty wary about what I watch.

[Il Divo]

Well, I opened up with Death Note and then to Darker than Black and Code Geass. I've watched a lot of anime since then and none quite compare to those two (Darker than Black and Code Geass). I watched the first two or three episodes of Psycho-Pass a couple of months back, but I haven't watched it since.  Not because it's a bad show, it just fell out of rotation. I'll pick it up again sooner or later. I've also been burned by a lot of anime―Sword Art Online is the first that comes to mind―so I've gotten pretty wary about what I watch.

 

I'm definitely with you on that - I feel like so many of us have been burnt by Sword Art Online, at least from most of the people I know who picked it up. 

[vbibbi]

Did the public actually "find out" about that? Or is that story coming across as just another rumor which they don't believe?

 

Right, that's why I don't see the theme of the importance/effect of organized religion in the game is examined as much as personal faith. Because nothing we the PC do actually has divergent outcomes. Our role as a religious figure doesn't change regardless of what we believe, what we tell the public, etc. It's about how we see our self after we learn the origin of the power. And it's about understanding that the public needs their own personal faith in us. If the public had decided that the Chantry wasn't fulfilling their needs and left it to become a disciple of the Herald, based on the Inquisition's action, then it would be a stronger reflection of organized religion. But to me it is about faith to individuals.

 

I'm still having trouble getting past the "it's optional, like dlc's are supposed to be". 

 

I will agree with this one portion of the post to a degree. DLCs shouldn't necessarily have to be completely optional, although that seems the safest method of issuing new content without upsetting the players. Cory's origins in a DLC has been debated, but what we learn in Legacy is covered again in DAI at least.

 

With Trespasser, though, it really acts as the true end to DAI, an epilogue to it which will have far reaching consequences in future games. We were essentially asked to buy a DLC to finish the story and have the necessary information for DA4. The fact that it also was only available for current gen was a bit of a slap in the face for people with old gen consoles and I still don't think Bioware handled that entire situation well.

 

DAI had a trend of relying too much on tertiary source material to fill in the blanks. Assuming players had played previous game DLC, read the books or comics, etc. rather than containing that information within the game is an issue. Tertiary material should supplement game information, not replace it.

[von uber]

Or both those things will happen and then you will be begging for USA, on this side of the pond, to come save your arses like the last two times you mucked things up.

You mean only if it is financially expedient and you have the chance to bankrupt your 'allies', and you'll be late anyway?



Anyway you wont be able to climb over the wall dictator for life Trump has built.

[Elhanan]

It's not a meme, it's a fact.

The fact is in the apparent bias, but the same tired posturing has been seen for decades.

[von uber]

The fact is in the apparent bias, but the same tired posturing has been seen for decades.

Are you talking about yourself here? I'm confused - I'm not the one with the issues over a bit of skin or commonly used language.
But then again I'm not the one who also has to watch something for at least ten hours to make sure they are offended enough.

[Elhanan]

Are you talking about yourself here? I'm confused - I'm not the one with the issues over a bit of skin or commonly used language.
But then again I'm not the one who also has to watch something for at least ten hours to make sure they are offended enough.

I watch hours of a product, read reviews, and look into articles in order to make an informed decision regarding a purchase; Recommended. It certainly appears to be better than leaping to speculative conclusions based on prejudicial opinions.

Not surprised in the least of the confusion....

[Pasquale1234]

We were essentially asked to buy a DLC to finish the story and have the necessary information for DA4.

Sounds like ME2's Arrival DLC.

I had no idea what was going on in the opening sequences of ME3 until I bought and played it.

[Elhanan]

Sounds like ME2's Arrival DLC.

I had no idea what was going on in the opening sequences of ME3 until I bought and played it.

I thought it had to do with the connections to Cerebus, revelations over their crimes, and not remaining in the Terminus systems as per the agreement. Then I watched a LP of Arrival, and while both made sense, the latter did have more details.

[rocklikeafool]

Yes I fail to see how it is more mature. It is not like making antagonists see the folly of their ways is in any way excluded from DAI.

Did you and I even play the same freakin' game?! Or did you just massively misunderstand what even was going on in the Bloody Baron Arc?...

 

Hell, it's like you don't even understand the general world of the Witcher.../facepalm

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Did you and I even play the same freakin' game?! Or did you just massively misunderstand what even was going on in the Bloody Baron Arc?...

 

Hell, it's like you don't even understand the general world of the Witcher.../facepalm

 

Correctamundo is a confused mess. Sad !

[correctamundo]

Did you and I even play the same freakin' game?! Or did you just massively misunderstand what even was going on in the Bloody Baron Arc?...

Hell, it's like you don't even understand the general world of the Witcher.../facepalm

There is nothing to misunderstand. Still no proof of "more" maturity. Just because you like it more doesn't really make it more mature.

[Kapilux]

I am interested, but my expectations are also very, very low.

From the rumors I have heard the game seems to be an open world Mako-simulator with tons of mundane tasks and filler content, which just doesn't really appeal to me at all. Mass Effect 2 is probably one of my favorite games ever made, but every Bioware game released after that was either mediocre or it just plain sucked IMO (especially DA:I), which also puts a huge damper on my expectations.

So yeah, my expectations are very low and I am expecting EA to fu** up yet another Bioware game, but I am interested and hope that it actually turns out to be great.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, I opened up with Death Note and then to Darker than Black and Code Geass. I've watched a lot of anime since then and none quite compare to those two (Darker than Black and Code Geass). I watched the first two or three episodes of Psycho-Pass a couple of months back, but I haven't watched it since.  Not because it's a bad show, it just fell out of rotation. I'll pick it up again sooner or later. I've also been burned by a lot of anime―Sword Art Online is the first that comes to mind―so I've gotten pretty wary about what I watch.

Have you watched Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood yet? If not, the world highly recommends it. 

[von uber]

Just thinking about it, surely when Elsa regains the throne at the end of the film she has the potential to turn Arendelle into a military superpower (and a fabulous one) dominating the region?

[Squish]

Ha, "great."

Chill, bruh. Just stating my opinion.

[Giantdeathrobot]

? DAI has a mature plot. If there's a better discussion of the role of organized religion in games (not a terribly high bar, I know), I haven't seen it.

 

It's even a bit too subtle for its own fanbase in sections, if fans whining about being the Chosen One are any indication.

 

Certainly far more mature than Witcher's take on religion, that's for sure. 

 

I hope Andromeda gives you as many chances as Inquisition did to state your character's beliefs on the events/themes of the game. It was one of DA:I's biggest fortes, when an NPC just stopped and asked what you thought. Cassandra and Solas in particular do it several times. In Mass Effect, everyone kinda just assumed Shepard agreed with whatever issue they had at the time, and ME3 doubled down on that with all the autodialog and automatic PTSD.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

It would be better for the narrative but worse for the game because it would start lacking content at that point. A game isn't some purely artistic thing where only the story matters. The side quest is an important part of RPGs(action or otherwise) since it provides the player with a lot of extra content that they can decide if they want to experience or not.

The only thing that they really define solidly in Mass Effect is Shep's dialogue in that you have to be either paragon or renegade, which is what killed it for me but they leave pretty much everything else open to the player to head canon. They never dictate that your Shep can't have their LI as a major motivation for what they're doing.

However going forward into ME:A, I would like more freedom in RPing my character.

Side quest are also useful for world building. Sadly after ME1 and Dao Bioware seems to have abandoned any serious attempt at world building in favour of 'rule of cool'.

[Iakus]

 In Mass Effect, everyone kinda just assumed Shepard agreed with whatever issue they had at the time, and ME3 doubled down on that with all the autodialog and automatic PTSD.

badly written PTSD at that.

[Iakus]

 
Well, now we're talking about being a Special Snowflake rather than a Chosen One. I agree that the Inquisitor is this, but honestly that trope is rather hard to avoid, and often the audience doesn't want the writers to avoid it anyway. Main characters almost always have to have some special thing about them to keep the audience invested in their success. It doesn't need to be a Rift-closing magic hand, of course, but it is a fantasy story after all.

Any protagonist is automatically going to be a Special Snowflake simply by being the protagonist.

 

That said, I don't want to be a Chosen One.  I'd rather be That Guy, as in John McClane in "Live Free or Die Hard":

 

John McClane: Trust me, kid, nobody wants to be that guy.
Matt Farrell: Then why you doing this?
John McClane: Because there's nobody else to do it right now, that's why.  Believe me, if there were somebody else to do it, I'd let them do it, but there's not.  So we're doing it.
Matt Farrell: Ah.  That's what makes you that guy.

[Linkenski]

Me neither. They're either gonna have to really impress me this E3 or the game itself will have to turn me around once I play it. I don't really hold Bioware in high regard anymore and I don't even have a lot of hope they can turn around, but I am still hoping that they will. It's just not something I feel reassured about whatsoever.

 

In modern times their games are too focus tested, too much about the gameplay itself and everything is a combat encounter and the writing itself has gotten much worse over the years. Either the wrong guys left (Like Drew, though he seems to be hinting at working on something stellar on Twitter) or they hired the wrong people. I'm not that sour about Mac anymore. He is a bad plot/lead writer when he's as inarticulate as he is and when he's not even interested in minutiae (in a series where the lore is everything that makes it unique, no less) but there are worse writers at the firm than him IMO - writing nothing but purple prose or reusing every generic line in the book at least twice in any dialogue.

 

I just hope Bioware is concerned about their product and work enough to do something about it, so they aren't just gonna keep sucking because they don't wanna tread on someone's toes. I'm telling you, there are incompetent people in very important positions at this company and they have to go away first.

[AlanC9]

Right, that's why I don't see the theme of the importance/effect of organized religion in the game is examined as much as personal faith. Because nothing we the PC do actually has divergent outcomes. Our role as a religious figure doesn't change regardless of what we believe, what we tell the public, etc. It's about how we see our self after we learn the origin of the power. And it's about understanding that the public needs their own personal faith in us. If the public had decided that the Chantry wasn't fulfilling their needs and left it to become a disciple of the Herald, based on the Inquisition's action, then it would be a stronger reflection of organized religion. But to me it is about faith to individuals.

I guess I just don't see what facts have to do with organized religion, so the issue of how the mark got to be there didn't strike me as having anything to do with this.

I think you might have more faith in the ability of organized religion to shape behavior in the short term than I do.

[Elhanan]

Me neither. They're either gonna have to really impress me this E3 or the game itself will have to turn me around once I play it. I don't really hold Bioware in high regard anymore and I don't even have a lot of hope they can turn around, but I am still hoping that they will. It's just not something I feel reassured about whatsoever.
 
In modern times their games are too focus tested, too much about the gameplay itself and everything is a combat encounter and the writing itself has gotten much worse over the years. Either the wrong guys left (Like Drew, though he seems to be hinting at working on something stellar on Twitter) or they hired the wrong people. I'm not that sour about Mac anymore. He is a bad plot/lead writer when he's as inarticulate as he is and when he's not even interested in minutiae (in a series where the lore is everything that makes it unique, no less) but there are worse writers at the firm than him IMO - writing nothing but purple prose or reusing every generic line in the book at least twice in any dialogue.
 
I just hope Bioware is concerned about their product and work enough to do something about it, so they aren't just gonna keep sucking because they don't wanna tread on someone's toes. I'm telling you, there are incompetent people in very important positions at this company and they have to go away first.

Opinion, even mine =/= fact.