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#51
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You can't knock them down however correct?  You just bounce off them.

 

Right, you bounce off them but deal damage if they block you. You can knock them down if they don't block you.


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Shield bearers fear the Avvar. Love the big guy with the mad hops.

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Mr. McShieldkins can't stop the Avvar. Just Hakon's Charge them over and over. Cooldown doesn't get triggered. You can literally spam it over and over and kill them without them touching you.

 

What? :o   And here I thought that those shieldies are tough when you don't have LW...since KM does not knock them down.   Must try!



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You can do the same with Devour against shield guys, no cooldown, too ;)


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You can do the same with Devour against shield guys, no cooldown, too ;)


One of the best tactics and makes me grin from ear to ear when I do it and say "take that!" In my head

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You can do the same with Devour against shield guys, no cooldown, too ;)

 

Hah... interesting....  although I started using dancer axe on my level 1 reaver :P   Dancer axe took care of everyone including the shield guys. :D



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I never liked The Dancer´s Axe ^^ It´s of some use on the Katari because you generate infinite guard, so no need for HoK.

On a level 1 it might be useful but I think the lower damage than with Hakkon´s Valor makes it useless cause if you place yourself well between enemies you can hit multiple targets, too (well with all 2 handed swords/axes, even with some other weapons like 1h swords).

Very annoying when I see high level reaver with that thing from ppl I know they have decent stats as well as hakkon´s valor :D


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I never liked The Dancer´s Axe ^^ It´s of some use on the Katari because you generate infinite guard, so no need for HoK.

On a level 1 it might be useful but I think the lower damage than with Hakkon´s Valor makes it useless cause if you place yourself well between enemies you can hit multiple targets, too (well with all 2 handed swords/axes, even with some other weapons like 1h swords).

Very annoying when I see high level reaver with that thing from ppl I know they have decent stats as well as hakkon´s valor :D

 

At level 1 my dancer axe hits harder than hakkon valor.    Dancer does about 1400 per hit while Hakkon does about 1200.   I did put a + crit damage mod on the Dancer Axe... forgot the total but it was like 40%?    One thing I notice is that the whirlwind from Dancer Axe is 100% damage not 50% like the normal Whirlwind ability.

 

Also LW does the same amount of damage using Hakkon or Dancer Axe.  Again I don't know why.   But I use Hakkon only because it is easier to break pots LOL :D


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Very annoying when I see high level reaver with that thing from ppl I know they have decent stats as well as hakkon´s valor :D

 

Just started to level Reaver again. I will try a build without Dragon Rage :D Just focusing on rampage while using dancers axe and using pommel strike as often as possible .. we´ll see how it goes :D 



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At level 1 my dancer axe hits harder than hakkon valor.    Dancer does about 1400 per hit while Hakkon does about 1200.   I did put a + crit damage mod on the Dancer Axe... forgot the total but it was like 40%?    One thing I notice is that the whirlwind from Dancer Axe is 100% damage not 50% like the normal Whirlwind ability.

 

Also LW does the same amount of damage using Hakkon or Dancer Axe.  Again I don't know why.   But I use Hakkon only because it is easier to break pots LOL :D

 

 

Agreed! Especially about the pots!!!  :P


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Just started to level Reaver again. I will try a build without Dragon Rage :D Just focusing on rampage while using dancers axe and using pommel strike as often as possible .. we´ll see how it goes :D

 

Not sure if you are kidding or not.. :P  But I have actually seen a reaver doing that. At first I thought he was level 1.. but he was not.   We played like 5 matches and he never once used dragon rage. :P


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Last night I played my Avvar first time in NM, but we do have saarebarrier so it wasn't even hard at all.   I think I am getting better at playing him.   I do realized that I don't have a KM ring.   I thought I have all the abilities rings.. but I guess I don't!



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Last night I played my Avvar first time in NM, but we do have saarebarrier so it wasn't even hard at all.   I think I am getting better at playing him.   I do realized that I don't have a KM ring.   I thought I have all the abilities rings.. but I guess I don't!

I just discovered, as I was rounding my necro up to 100 missions, that I didn't have a walking bomb ring.  Luckily I've had two drop in the last several weeks.

 

Glad you are getting the hang of him.. I think he is the most fun of all the warriors honestly.



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I just discovered, as I was rounding my necro up to 100 missions, that I didn't have a walking bomb ring.  Luckily I've had two drop in the last several weeks.

 

Glad you are getting the hang of him.. I think he is the most fun of all the warriors honestly.

 

Unless I know I have the ring, I am starting to not salvage any of the ring until I am out in inventory and make sure I already have it. :P   I actually found that I don't have the gripling chain one either last night but now I have it. LOL.

 

I have to agree now that Avvar is really fun.   So much fun that I wish things will die slower and there should be more shield guys.   Seriously, charging into the shields over and over is my new mini game in match now.   Except now I found out about this, I kept getting demon faction!  :angry: 


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Not sure if you are kidding or not.. :P  But I have actually seen a reaver doing that. At first I thought he was level 1.. but he was not.   We played like 5 matches and he never once used dragon rage. :P

 

I am not kidding :) and well, it will be less damage than with Hakkon + Dragon Rage but it´s not like It will stop me from winning a game, so why not try something different, just for a change :)



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I am not kidding :) and well, it will be less damage than with Hakkon + Dragon Rage but it´s not like It will stop me from winning a game, so why not try something different, just for a change :)

You can call it the Katari Reaver Build.  Oh, and record some gameplay.  ;)

 

If I had the PI amulet, I would probably put the pommel strike on my reaver, just for fun.  The pommel strike is just such a brutal, quick strike that i like it.  But, right now, I prefer the combat roll on it, once I can.


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The pommel strike is just such a brutal, quick strike that i like it. 

 

Until you try to strike the behemoth LOL :D


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Until you try to strike the behemoth LOL :D

Or some things that are laying on the ground.  It is true.. it is a bit picky.   



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Sorry, no gameplay recorded and already promoted ;)

 

But was very disappointing. Compared to the use of Dragon Rage with hakkon it´s so slow killing :D

Was fun for w few games but that´s about it.



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Sorry, no gameplay recorded and already promoted ;)

 

But was very disappointing. Compared to the use of Dragon Rage with hakkon it´s so slow killing :D

Was fun for w few games but that´s about it.

 

Does rampage make you spin faster is what I want to know. :P  Because if it does not, then it would be exactly the same as playing Katari?  You spin to win with PS and MB right?   And because of the Reaver's heal per hit, she will be at max (or close to max health) most of the time so no increase in damage either!  I guess you could mix in Ring of Pain too... and not use any ability just spin and spin.....



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Still experminenting with this guy. Ice Smash is quirky. Can't refresh before it expires?

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Does rampage make you spin faster is what I want to know. :P  Because if it does not, then it would be exactly the same as playing Katari?  You spin to win with PS and MB right?   And because of the Reaver's heal per hit, she will be at max (or close to max health) most of the time so no increase in damage either!  I guess you could mix in Ring of Pain too... and not use any ability just spin and spin.....

 
Yea it spins faster, even faster with the ring from the Saarebas or Battle of the Bands ;)
But as I said, it was fun for a few games but gets boring very fast, at least for me.
And the damage is still disappointing (compared to Hakkon's Valor), no matter if I use it on Katari, Reaver or Avvar. 

 

Still experminenting with this guy. Ice Smash is quirky. Can't refresh before it expires?

 

Ice Smash is pretty good on Perilous and below but for Nightmare not because other abilities are more useful and if you encounter enemies immune to ice damage (e.g. half of the Qunari, RT Knights, Venatori Spellbinder/mage) you have two useless abilities assuming you have Hakkon's Charge.

 

And I really like the vesatillity of the Avvar covering all three elements as well as physical attacks. :)



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As a fairly new player to MP and having platyed mostly with the Avvar, I also feel that he is quite squishy.

 

How much of an improvement will I feel once I craft the War harness armor (T2)? Its 119 armor compared to the 76 on the base armor, will it matter alot?

 

Also, is it not possible to craft armor upgrades, can you only get them from opening chests?



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Well, It´s not like you go to higher difficulty when getting a better armor, but you should feel a difference (looks at damage taken).
 
And sadly you can not craft armor upgrades and the the ones with the highest bonus (like +16 Cunning) are very hard to get. And after you have 200 cunning there is no arm upgrade that is doing anything for rogues :D
 
And you can take a look here which Items you can get:
 
https://docs.google....LHBNMM/pubhtml#


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Well, It´s not like you go to higher difficulty when getting a better armor, but you should feel a difference (looks at damage taken).
 
And sadly you can not craft armor upgrades and the the ones with the highest bonus (like +16 Cunning) are very hard to get. And after you have 200 cunning there is no arm upgrade that is doing anything for rogues :D
 
And you can take a look here which Items you can get:
 
https://docs.google....LHBNMM/pubhtml#

 

Cheers, too bad the armor upgrades are a random when weapoin upgrades can be crafted :(

 

Also, I read about the Drakescale armor which you get as reward after 1 million xp for a given class. It has higher armor than other class armor, but no bonus like +x% melee defense.

 

So is it worth it for the higher armor rating?