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[Han Shot First]

Personally I would prefer it if the subject of marriage is saved until the final instalment of ME:A, presuming there's going to be more than one. I mean, I don't mean to be *that guy*, but bringing up marriage with someone you've basically only met and during a critical mission to save the galaxy (or whatever you're saving this time)? Reminds me of that joke about U-Haul Lesbians.
 
Otherwise, after every other crisis has been averted and you're now the big hero? I'd personally like to marry the caca out of my love interest, lol.

There's that, too.

Didn't all of ME1 play out over a few weeks? Pledges of undying love after a similar passage of time would be both sudden and a bit obsessive. If the LI were a real person, they'd probably think the protagonist was coming on too strong.

[Grieving Natashina]

I haven't played Trespasser yet, since I'm still on a puppy-induced hiatus from my PC.

This isn't a bad idea, but I have a few concerns. I would enjoy some feedback though.

1) I keep wondering if folks want marriage or a wedding. There's a lot of emphasis on having a wedding onscreen. I'm not opposed to the idea, but did folks want a long term multi-game spanning marriage, or just a wedding? To me, a wedding would be pretty boring. I've been to a few of different beliefs, and many times I was ready to conk out.

2) Related to the above, what kind of ceremony would some folks prefer? While a lot of our current culture focuses around the pageantry of marriage, it can be as simple as two people declaring their love for the rest of their lives. Something as simple as a lifelong promise of love and partnership is just as vital as any sort of public ceremony.

3) Now, I'm fine with it as an option. While I think that it isn't really worth the zots, it isn't something I'm vehemently against. However, it would be irritating if they make it mandatory in any form. I know that BBM (as well as those that support him) are not asking for that. I'm a little leery though about how the ME team would handle it. I don't want my only options to be "Marry the guy/gal"or "End the Relationship" for any LI.

In favor of this idea, it would be interesting to see the ME team's take on an alien wedding. I'm still fascinated with the ME lore and I'm a huge fan of having it expanded. It doesn't need to be the traditional white dress and all of that jazz. I didn't wear white at my wedding, and got married outdoors.

Still, I have trouble agreeing that a wedding is worth the resources with it being optional content. I'm not opposed to full-blown marriage though, if it's done over the course of a series of games. That's what more interests me than seeing my PC and a LI saying their "I do's" in some sort of on-screen ceremony.

[Battlebloodmage]

I haven't played Trespasser yet, since I'm still on a puppy-induced hiatus from my PC.

This isn't a bad idea, but I have a few concerns. I would enjoy some feedback though.

1) I keep wondering if folks want marriage or a wedding. There's a lot of emphasis on having a wedding onscreen. I'm not opposed to the idea, but did folks want a long term multi-game spanning marriage, or just a wedding? To me, a wedding would be pretty boring. I've been to a few of different beliefs, and many times I was ready to conk out.

2) Related to the above, what kind of ceremony would some folks prefer? While a lot of our current culture focuses around the pageantry of marriage, it can be as simple as two people declaring their love for the rest of their lives. Something as simple as a lifelong promise of love and partnership is just as vital as any sort of public ceremony.

3) Now, I'm fine with it as an option. While I think that it isn't really worth the zots, it isn't something I'm vehemently against. However, it would be irritating if they make it mandatory in any form. I know that BBM (as well as those that support him) are not asking for that. I'm a little leery though about how the ME team would handle it. I don't want my only options to be "Marry the guy/gal"or "End the Relationship" for any LI.

In favor of this idea, it would be interesting to see the ME team's take on an alien wedding. I'm still fascinated with the ME lore and I'm a huge fan of having it expanded. It doesn't need to be the traditional white dress and all of that jazz. I didn't wear white at my wedding, and got married outdoors.

Still, I have trouble agreeing that a wedding is worth the resources with it being optional content. I'm not opposed to full-blown marriage though, if it's done over the course of a series of games. That's what more interests me than seeing my PC and a LI saying their "I do's" in some sort of on-screen ceremony.

You can get married to Cullen or keep the relationship without getting married. It's not really being forced on you or end the relationship if you choose not to be in a BDSM relationship. Plus, it doesn't even have to be optional content, there are multiple romantic scene with the LI, they could easily use one of those scenes for marriage. Yes, it's pretty boring seeing other people get married, but it's different if you're the one getting married though. Was your wedding boring to you? 

 

I would like to see how a relationship between a married couple would work out in a trilogy though. They should at least try with one game since all the games are just between people we're dating. 

[Grieving Natashina]

I'd heard that Cullen's romance didn't end due to the lack of marriage.

My wedding wasn't boring to me, but my husband and I planned all of it. The clothes, the location (Renaissance Faire,) the person that officiated the wedding, our vows, getting mead instead of the champaign offered in the wedding package. Even down to our single tiered Lego-topped wedding cake.

A video game wedding would put my character into a position to where BioWare decides all of the ceremony. What my PC wears, what s/he says and how the ceremony works. Sure, I'd probably have a few options to vary the dialogue, but I don't see myself having fun. I don't find that engaging at all. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, it just isn't for me. This is all a matter of a opinion. I'm not going to say you're wrong for your PoV nor am I automatically right.

While my real life wedding wasn't boring to me (especially since the best man locked his knees and passed out in the middle of the ceremony), I don't find it engaging for a video game.

<edited for tone. That sentence came off as pretty rude and I think I had misunderstood your point.>

If something like this made it into the game (say, a DLC that focuses on action with an optional wedding for the PC and LI,) I'd like to keep to optional at the least. That's all. It isn't anything personal (hugs to Hana,) but an onscreen ceremony something that wouldn't agree with me. If nothing else, I'd find that a little immersion breaking. Not everyone that considers themselves married has gone through a public ceremony.

I know someone that's been with the same woman for 17 years. They have a little girl, and they share an insurance policy, file taxes and do all the things that a husband and wife do together. Yet, they didn't feel the need for a wedding or the name change. I know that's one anecdotal example, but I've seen that couples living together like that isn't as uncommon as a lot of public perception might suggest.

I do agree that showing the ups and downs of a marriage is a cool idea. I would have enjoyed that with Garrus, as an example. If done well, it could be nice to see. Shoot I thought a romanced Garrus and a FemShep already acted like they were married, and in a good way. I'm happy to see that kind of relationship expanded upon.

I don't agree about the wedding though nor making any sort of onscreen ceremony at all. However, I enjoy some of your ideas BBM. I think we can agree to disagree here.

[Onewomanarmy]

Perhaps you two should get married.

 

Hehe Donk the matchmaker

 

Always tries to set me up with someone lol.

[Battlebloodmage]

Hehe Donk the matchmaker

 

Always tries to set me up with someone lol.

[Onewomanarmy]

^ Hehehe PERFECT! But also scary.... I'm scared... Mommaaaaa

[GeneralXIV]

If you 2 do get married could I please come??? Haha I love weddings! xxx

[Catastrophy]

No fish - no marriage! And this is not up for debate! #FishFirst

[sjsharp2011]

I don't even want to get married in the real world.

neither do I tbh but that's more down to the fact I've never really met the right person. I'm not against the idea but I've never really met anyone that I could truly connect with and I've always been a bit of a lone wolf anyway. Probably why I'm a bit of a sucker for Bioware's games I can experience things in those I'd never do in real life.

[The Sauce of Awesome]

Agreed; again, it just works better in a trilogy, and sometimes a trilogy isn't even enough time to fully get to that point in the characters' relationship... I mean look at Star Wars; Leia and Han don't really solidify their romance until the final movie, and it's just basically them agreeing to be a couple. (Probably why I was so miffed with their "relationship" being a complete and utter DISASTER by the time we get to TFA; like, really?? We didn't get a wedding, newlyweds, happy parents, etc. you guys just jumped us to SAD AND ALONE??)

 

Right?! Getting hitched after a single instalment is a bit quick, IMO. Like, drunken Vegas wedding quick. Ongoing series where characters are given the time needed to develop are so much better, especially in the realm of relationships platonic or otherwise with other characters.

 

That being said, I do admit that Sera or Cullen marrying the Inquisitor kind of works though, in spite of the whole single instalment thing and that's mainly because of how the overall DA story is structured: with a new protagonist for every game. But let's remember that by the time the events of Trespasser are being played out, two years had already passed in-universe, long enough for their relationship with the Inquisitor to develop and deepen. We don't get to see any of it, sadly, but after two years together it would make sense for someone to ask "Will you marry me?" as far as the story is concerned.

 

Two years makes sense. Six weeks (or however long it takes in-universe to save a galaxy) doesn't.

And going off-topic, but I'm still sad about Han... :'(

 

(Also, PS: Going back to the DA wedding thing...Cassandra is a conservative, Josephine is a romantic and would want a big wedding instead of practically eloping like Sera/Cullen. Iron Bull doesn't believe in marriage, Dorian is Tevinter, nuff said, and Blackwall is Blackwall so who cares? That's how I headcanon why they don't have marriage options, at least. )

[Obliviousmiss]

 

 

Welp, that movie's ruined for me. 

[Pasquale1234]

A video game wedding would put my character into a position to where BioWare decides all of the ceremony. What my PC wears, what s/he says and how the ceremony works. Sure, I'd probably have a few options to vary the dialogue, but I don't see myself having fun. I don't find that engaging at all. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, it just isn't for me. This is all a matter of a opinion. I'm not going to say you're wrong for your PoV nor am I automatically right.

This is one of the issues I have with it. I would expect Bioware to slam-dunk my character into some awful white dress with all of the traditional trimmings - and that's something I would not want to see.

I would, however, support the idea of marriage so long any related ceremony takes place off-camera.

As an alternative, they could include dialogue about spending the rest of their lives together, or become engaged.

[Vegeta 77]

It should be a option for people who want it but not forced on the player or if you refuse it ends the romance. Also if bioware put it in MEA both straight and gay men should get options this time not just women. Seeker Cass should have been a option.

[Khrystyn]

Perhaps the protag and their 'LI'  could have a scene where they pretend to be married while speaking with a group of aliens. The deception is useful for the plot in some way, but afterwards the two of them begin to think about having a closer relationship that they had never considered before. During the mission, they can begin talking at a more personal level and learn more about each others' past, views, and hopes fore the future.

 

I'm an advocate for a mission where the protag and only their LI (no third wheel on the trip) are working together. It's an excellent opportunity for two outcomes: 1) The fall in love; 2) They find they can't stand each other - for comical relief perhaps?

[piloteyre]

I wouldn't be opposed to it but I do agree with other posters that I would prefer the option to pop up in later games, assuming Andromeda is the start of a new trilogy. Getting married after dating for less than three months seems pretty rushed to me, and I doubt the timeframe for Andromeda is going to be much over that, given past ME installments. It would be interesting if you could get married in, say, the second game and then the romance in the third game is more of a subtle, sweet married couple thing, instead of 'we have to have sex because we might die tomorrow!' BW's never really done that.

 

I guess my main concern is how they would develop the romances to the point where marriage seems like a logical next step. Sure, the Inquisitor and Cullen or Sera have been together for nearly three years by Trespasser, but two of those years are offscreen and Bioware romances usually don't have enough scenes to ever go past the "wow, we sure are dating!" honeymoon stage. People complain about Bioware's romance focus and pandering, but honestly the romance content really isn't that much if you look at each relationship individually vs all of them as a whole. We never get to see the relationships mature, we just see the end result. 

 

So the marriage proposals in Trespasser were really cute but they also felt like they hadn't been "earned", so to speak. Bioware has a tendency to either stay in the honeymoon/first blush stage of the relationships and never explore the nitty gritty that comes after, or they jump from "we'll bang, ok?" to acting like an old married couple so quickly I feel like I've got whiplash (Shakarian and, weirdly, the Iron Bull romance both did this - Bull especially felt like there were scenes missing somewhere in the middle, before the pretty big step of the kadan necklace. Note to Bioware: jewelry and love tokens are not a substitute for cutscenes where the main character and their LI actually discuss their feelings in depth.) Probably because it's just easier to make fit in with the rest of the game without turning it into a glorified dating sim, but neither of those scenarios make marriage a tempting option to me. It feels a little forced.

 

That said, of course, if people want a marriage option I'd be all for it - my reservations shouldn't rain on anyone's parade. It is very sweet. I think I'd just prefer if Bioware focused on actually making the relationship arcs deeper, first, if they want to spend more resources on them at all.  

[Battlebloodmage]

I wouldn't be opposed to it but I do agree with other posters that I would prefer the option to pop up in later games, assuming Andromeda is the start of a new trilogy. Getting married after dating for less than three months seems pretty rushed to me, and I doubt the timeframe for Andromeda is going to be much over that, given past ME installments. It would be interesting if you could get married in, say, the second game and then the romance in the third game is more of a subtle, sweet married couple thing, instead of 'we have to have sex because we might die tomorrow!' BW's never really done that.

 

I guess my main concern is how they would develop the romances to the point where marriage seems like a logical next step. Sure, the Inquisitor and Cullen or Sera have been together for nearly three years by Trespasser, but two of those years are offscreen and Bioware romances usually don't have enough scenes to ever go past the "wow, we sure are dating!" honeymoon stage. People complain about Bioware's romance focus and pandering, but honestly the romance content really isn't that much if you look at each relationship individually vs all of them as a whole. We never get to see the relationships mature, we just see the end result. 

 

So the marriage proposals in Trespasser were really cute but they also felt like they hadn't been "earned", so to speak. Bioware has a tendency to either stay in the honeymoon/first blush stage of the relationships and never explore the nitty gritty that comes after, or they jump from "we'll bang, ok?" to acting like an old married couple so quickly I feel like I've got whiplash (Shakarian and, weirdly, the Iron Bull romance both did this - Bull especially felt like there were scenes missing somewhere in the middle, before the pretty big step of the kadan necklace. Note to Bioware: jewelry and love tokens are not a substitute for cutscenes where the main character and their LI actually discuss their feelings in depth.) Probably because it's just easier to make fit in with the rest of the game without turning it into a glorified dating sim, but neither of those scenarios make marriage a tempting option to me. It feels a little forced.

 

That said, of course, if people want a marriage option I'd be all for it - my reservations shouldn't rain on anyone's parade. It is very sweet. I think I'd just prefer if Bioware focused on actually making the relationship arcs deeper, first, if they want to spend more resources on them at all.  

There's a romance budget, so instead of having like 8-10 options, they should just cut back on them and make like 6 options or even just 4, but make them really integral to the story, and bisexual characters may even have different scenes and reactions. Quality and quantity any day, IMO. 

 

I wouldn't mind the way you describe, dating in the first game, married in the second game, married life in the third game, nursing home in the fourth game. 

[TheN7Penguin]

It's amazing how much can be said about so little.

[Iakus]

 

 

(Also, PS: Going back to the DA wedding thing...Cassandra is a conservative, Josephine is a romantic and would want a big wedding instead of practically eloping like Sera/Cullen. Iron Bull doesn't believe in marriage, Dorian is Tevinter, nuff said, and Blackwall is Blackwall so who cares? That's how I headcanon why they don't have marriage options, at least. )

Cassandra is a romantic as well.  And seems amenable to marriage (provided she is not Divine)

 

But she wants the proposal to be perfect , thus why she won't hear of it while the Exalted Council and all the related shenanigans are going on.  She wants a storybook proposal where nothing goes wrong.

[Tvorceskiy]

Personally, I wouldn't want marriage in ME:A. I mean, if they tossed it in background chatter of crew members of the Ark (like engineer A is getting hitched and is talking to engineer B about it) that's fine and dandy. But other than that, my feeling is that it doesn't belong in the ME franchise.

[piloteyre]

It's amazing how much can be said about so little.

 

not that amazing, given the dearth of anything concrete to talk about. The absence of information is basically a breeding ground for overthinking relatively unimportant minutiae on here, as far as I can tell, if the multiple arguments on whether or not a completely theoretical first person POV would be the death of Mass Effect are anything to go by. Might as well embrace it.

[Andrew Lucas]

Seems rather cheesy. I'd rather a dialogue where they mention it as some sort of possibility in the future instead of showing a space- like ending, feels out of place for a ME game.

[BadgerladDK]

Word of warning: Marry an Asari and you will never live long enough to have the pleasure of putting your mother-in-law six feet under.

[N7 Vindicator]

Although I'm not against marriage, I don't think it should be given too much prominence in MEA and if it is there, it should be optional. It only makes sense that all characters wouldn't want to get married. Maybe pursuing romances with certain persons would end in a marriage but at the same time, romancing another person won't lead to the same because he/she is only interested in being in a relationship and not be married.

 

I also think that MEA won't be a start to a new trilogy and might be a standalone-but thats just me. So I don't think getting married(if you choose to) at the end of the game would be too bad.

 

On the topic of the wedding ceremony, I think there should not be any ceremony because I just don't see it happening in ME. Like someone suggested here, it would be best left for the epilogue. 

[Hammerstorm]

Word of warning: Marry an Asari and you will never live long enough to have the pleasure of putting your mother-in-law six feet under.

 

Depend on how much you want to put her down. There is always ways..........