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[BloodyMares]

There are a couple of things I can think of, though they are largely based on what we consider marriage to be in this day and age (which could be quite different in the future).

-- It's a declaration to the world that you plan to spend the rest of your life with another person. Traditional wedding ceremonies are public events, requiring the couple to make vows to each other in front of an entire community of witnesses.

-- The couple is recognized as family (next of kin) under the law, eligible for whatever benefits that entails.

-And what is the point in declaring your relationship to the world? You might as well just tweet about it if that's what you're after.

-The couple may be recognized as a family when they have kids as well. Legal benefits are the only benefits really. And I don't see how they help you in Mass Effect because there is no law that affects you. If marriage grants you a Spectre status now we're talking.

[Pasquale1234]

-And what is the point in declaring your relationship to the world? You might as well just tweet about it if that's what you're after.

The spoken promises create an enforceable oral contract - thus the witnesses - at least that's the way it's worked traditionally.

Also, did you miss the part about making a public promise to spend the rest of their lives together? Binding contracts are typically entered by more than one party, so I don't know that individual tweets would be effective here.
 

-The couple may be recognized as a family when they have kids as well.

The way it works today is that they are simply recognized as the biological parents of the child(ren) involved. That does not give them any direct legal status with each other.
 

Legal benefits are the only benefits really. And I don't see how they help you in Mass Effect because there is no law that affects you.

It's hard to say since we don't know much about the legal climate. That's why I prefaced my initial response with a statement to that effect.

[King Killoth]

for me it depends on if this is going to be a one shot story or a trilogy. if this is just a one off like Dragon age then yes but if its more like Mass Effect 1-3 then I would want it to be put off till the last game with this character.

[The Dystopian Hound]

Well, Cap has more chemistry with Bucky than with Agent 13. I could ship it. Though Bucky would be cuter with Falcon.

I like the idea of marriage and exploring being in a married couple, but I'd also prefer the ceremony itself take place offscreen since a headcanon wedding will always be better than what gets shown in game.

Bucky cuter with Falcon? Ha ha ha

[BloodyMares]

Also, did you miss the part about making a public promise to spend the rest of their lives together? Binding contracts are typically entered by more than one party, so I don't know that individual tweets would be effective here. 

I didn't. It just doesn't add anything to a relationship. If you have love and happiness you don't need all that. It's just showing off. And you can show off on social media.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What is the point of marriages anyway? Especially in 22nd century (or even further into the future). It doesn't add any value to a relationship itself.

Doesn't add anything for you, perhaps. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be an option for those it does add too.

[Squinterific]

I second some of the views here. I don't think marriage would even be a relevant concept in another galaxy, thousands of years into the future. It's a declining institution even here and now, in the real world.

[Battlebloodmage]

I second some of the views here. I don't think marriage would even be a relevant concept in another galaxy, thousands of years into the future. It's a declining institution even here and now, in the real world.

Actually, marriage still happens, Steve Cortez was married before his husband got killed. It's still a relevant concept. Moreover, the game is made to appeal to people in the present, not the people in the future, and many people in the present still love to get married.

[KaiserShep]

I didn't. It just doesn't add anything to a relationship. If you have love and happiness you don't need all that. It's just showing off. And you can show off on social media.

I imagine symbolic gestures such as these between two (or more?) people will still be a thing way off in the future.

[Squinterific]

Actually, marriage still happens, Steve Cortez was married before his husband got killed. It's still a relevant concept. Moreover, the game is made to appeal to people in the present, not the people in the future, and many people in the present still love to get married.

 

I was referring to marriage in ME:Andromeda, which takes place in another galaxy at an unspecified point in the future of ME3. I am aware that people in the present still like to get married, but I wouldn't find it odd lore-wise if it's not a thing in ME:Andromeda.

[Battlebloodmage]

I was referring to marriage in ME:Andromeda, which takes place in another galaxy at an unspecified point in the future of ME3. I am aware that people in the present still like to get married, but I wouldn't find it odd lore-wise if it's not a thing in ME:Andromeda.

It takes place in another galaxy, but we're still the ones from the milky way where marriage is still a thing. It may not be a thing for the people in another galaxy, but it's likely still a thing for the people from our galaxy where there are different species getting married, not only between humans. It wouldn't odd, but marriage is already an established tradition between different species from different planets. 

[BloodyMares]

It takes place in another galaxy, but we're still the ones from the milky way where marriage is still a thing. It may not be a thing for the people in another galaxy, but it's likely still a thing for the people from our galaxy where there are different species getting married, not only between humans. It wouldn't odd, but marriage is already an established tradition between different species from different planets. 

 

How do you imagine marriage happen in interspecies society anyway? Did humanity enforce their customs on aliens once again? Why would other species want to declare relationships the same way as some humans? Even if they do have some analogy to marriage, I'm sure it doesn't look anything like marriage on Earth. I suppose marriage was okay as a subject in Mass Effect 3 because we can imagine that humans still did get married to each other on Earth or other human colonies. In Andromeda however we are the newcomers and no other species have to follow our traditions. If this "declaration of relationships" is a thing in Andromeda then it should be on terms of their customs, not ours and it's very hard to create other variations of this process that make some sense and are different enough from our understanding of marriage.

[Battlebloodmage]

How do you imagine marriage happen in interspecies society anyway? Did humanity enforce their customs on aliens once again? Why would other species want to declare relationships the same way as some humans? Even if they do have some analogy to marriage, I'm sure it doesn't look anything like marriage on Earth. I suppose marriage was okay as a subject in Mass Effect 3 because we can imagine that humans still did get married to each other on Earth or other human colonies. In Andromeda however we are the newcomers and no other species have to follow our traditions. If this "declaration of relationships" is a thing in Andromeda then it should be on terms of their customs, not ours and it's very hard to create other variations of this process that make some sense and are different enough from our understanding of marriage.

If we did get married, it would likely between the species from our galaxy, what makes you think we will be in relationship with other species from another galaxy? Even if there are, some would still be with the species from our galaxy like asari or a human. Why should we do things in term of their custom? If we want to get married to other members of our galaxy, who cares about the tradition from the other galaxy?

[BloodyMares]

If we did get married, it would likely between the species from our galaxy, what makes you think we will be in relationship with other species from another galaxy? Even if there are, some would still be with the species from our galaxy like asari or a human. Why should we do things in term of their custom? If we want to get married to other members of our galaxy, who cares about the tradition from the other galaxy?

 

You seem to miss the point. I don't see how marriage can be important on the Ark, even between humans. And why would other Milky Way species want to follow our traditions? Do asari even get married? Is this marriage different from human marriage? What about other turians? Quarians? Etc. And do humans marry strictly in European/American fashion and other cultures don't exist anymore? You see, before implementing a marriage, you need to think it through as a subject in the universe. A lot of worldbuilding without breaking suspension of disbelief. Otherwise it will be seen as another human-centric game. This is a lot of trouble just to implement some new romance mechanics.

[Battlebloodmage]

You seem to miss the point. I don't see how marriage can be important on the Ark, even between humans. And why would other Milky Way species want to follow our traditions? Do asari even get married? Is this marriage different from human marriage? What about other turians? Quarians? Etc. And do humans marry strictly in European/American fashion and other cultures don't exist anymore? You see, before implementing a marriage, you need to think it through as a subject in the universe. A lot of worldbuilding without breaking suspension of disbelief. Otherwise it will be seen as another human-centric game. This is a lot of trouble just to implement some new romance mechanics.

Thane was married to Irikah, so drells do have that concept, and there are many people who don't believe in marriage still get married for the sake of their partner. Moreover, not all of the characters have to get married, just some of them, especially there are likely gonna be a bunch of human LIs. 

 

Marriage is not important in the real world, not even in the game, but people still do it because they view it as something special like watching the ball drop every new year. Why is it important? Nothing, but it's tradition. You're saying it as if everything we do need to have a purpose or something. No, it doesn't. Human centric game made to appeal to human gamers? Like it's an outrageous new idea or something. Marriage should be likely with the humans LIs, but maybe some alien LIs may be down to get married either because they have some form of marriage or because they do it for their partner. 

[Patricia08]

How do you like the idea of actually tying the knot? It was actually a possibility in DAI. For some reasons, you can only get married as women. The guys kinda got the short end on that. I wanted to marry Cassandra, but alas, it didn't happen though. There was a big thread on marriage on the DA page before it releases. I think it influences the decision to include it as an option for female inquisitor in the game. It's just a suggestion, not a demand, of course. I just like the idea of marriage. I find it pretty romantic. In hindsight, maybe I should have played as a female Inquisitor since they get extra options and marriage. 

 

With that being said, I'm preparing for a lot of ridicule posts now. Hopefully, some may post actual opinions.

 

I would really like the possibility of getting married and maybe even have children ( two or maybe three just a real family ). Maybe that would be kind of difficult of playing a female P. Shepard ( or a female P. Inquisitor ) and be pregnant and also save the Galaxy ( the world ). But Bioware could probably make that happen somehow. If i would play as a male Shepard having children would then be a lot easier. So i would also like to see that the man can marry to he also should have the possibility to get married and maybe have children.

 

So how is this post is it satisfying for you    ?  

[Iakus]

You seem to miss the point. I don't see how marriage can be important on the Ark, even between humans. And why would other Milky Way species want to follow our traditions? Do asari even get married? Is this marriage different from human marriage? What about other turians? Quarians? Etc. And do humans marry strictly in European/American fashion and other cultures don't exist anymore? You see, before implementing a marriage, you need to think it through as a subject in the universe. A lot of worldbuilding without breaking suspension of disbelief. Otherwise it will be seen as another human-centric game. This is a lot of trouble just to implement some new romance mechanics.

They do, though I think they call it "bonding".

 

Aethyta talks to Liara about how she and Benezia never married so Benezia could maintain the appearance of being "available"

 

"You can't be the 'wise councilor' if you're married"

[Lord Kiran]

I dunno, for all we know marraige could be an outdated cultural institution by the time Andromeda takes place.

[Patricia08]

I dunno, for all we know marraige could be an outdated cultural institution by the time Andromeda takes place.

 

That is a possibility of course we will have to wait and see when the time comes. 

[Lord Kiran]

That is a possibility of course we will have to wait and see when the time comes. 

I'm honestly surprised it's still relevant in ME1-3's timeframe considering it's importance and relevance to western society at least has been dwindling rapidly for the last 100 years or so. 

[Pasquale1234]

You seem to miss the point. I don't see how marriage can be important on the Ark, even between humans. And why would other Milky Way species want to follow our traditions? Do asari even get married? Is this marriage different from human marriage? What about other turians? Quarians? Etc. And do humans marry strictly in European/American fashion and other cultures don't exist anymore? You see, before implementing a marriage, you need to think it through as a subject in the universe. A lot of worldbuilding without breaking suspension of disbelief. Otherwise it will be seen as another human-centric game. This is a lot of trouble just to implement some new romance mechanics.

We've seen marriage among aliens in MEU. Salarians specifically point out that their relationships are different in that they are primarily breeding contracts.

In ME2, Ereba talks about dating versus "something permanent", and in ME3, she refers to Charr as her husband.
 


Plus - ME2's Salarian bachelor party.

[Monk]

for me it depends on if this is going to be a one shot story or a trilogy. if this is just a one off like Dragon age then yes but if its more like Mass Effect 1-3 then I would want it to be put off till the last game with this character.

 

Yeah but if it's a one-off, it either oughta be a one-game stand or a drunken "Omega" wedding. Can't really imagine getting hitched, within the first couple games, without the comical bickering to go with it. That's just cheating us, the players.