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[SKAR]

Even ME2/DA2 scenes were better than the **** we got in ME3/DAO.

We need the WITCHER. If the Polish can do it, so can the Canadians.

[Serza]

shut up man. Just shut up. It's a video game. And besides devgru and Delta guys can have long hair and even beards. N7 is the devgru/Delta force of the Alliance Navy.

 

Even Czech Infantry can have beards, and I know that second-hand. And those folks are hardly special forces.

 

You are also discarding the fact that all of those operators come from regular units. Trust me, I did some research on the DEVGRU/SEAL Team Six in particular, and the word I got was six years of standart service before you can APPLY.

[fizzypop]

It's a fictional game, but there are still logics behind certain elements. I don't get why people use fiction to justify having crazy idea. It's a fictional game, but the general similarities of the real world is still present. Humans are still humans, you are not gonna see male Shepard getting pregnant from Garrus something like that. Some people prefer to have a certain logical ground based on the real world. With that being said, the protagonist appearance is not canon, if they could spare resources, I don't care if it's in there or not. I just don't like it on military NPCs. 

except in real life women can have long hair in the military....lol. Long hair is NOT a "crazy idea". Beyond all that we won't even have access to the military once we leave the milky way...so who the **** cares about military regulations? And you know it would cost them more resources to always cut hair super short then just to allow it grow out in their voyage. It would make way more sense to ration resources and utensils used for cutting and shaving. 

[SKAR]

Even Czech Infantry can have beards, and I know that second-hand. And those folks are hardly special forces.

You are also discarding the fact that all of those operators come from regular units. Trust me, I did some research on the DEVGRU/SEAL Team Six in particular, and the word I got was six years of standart service before you can APPLY.

Enough you fool! It's a VIDEO GAME!!!!!!! I hate to be harsh but you won't listen to reason.

[Jedi Comedian]

We need the WITCHER. If the Polish can do it, so can the Canadians.

I could go with ME1 style. ****, even with ME2/DA2 style, but NO. ******. UNDERWEAR.

[SKAR]

I could go with ME1 style. ****, even with ME2/DA2 style, but NO. ******. UNDERWEAR.

The witcher, they did it best. Not too explicit but not too kid friendly. Just right. Like Goldilocks. But that's just my opinion.

[Jedi Comedian]

The witcher, they did it best. Not too explicit but not too kid friendly. Just right. Like Goldilocks. But that's just my opinion.

This needs to ****** happen. C'mon Bio, your games are 4 adults!

[SKAR]

This needs to ****** happen. C'mon Bio, your games are 4 adults!

no ****. If a little kid plays the game it's not bioware's fault. Its the parents. They read the label. It's for mature people. 17+

[MsKlaussen]

I think its understandable that some would want longer hair styles, sure. However, why is it so strange that some people prefer short hair or updos on characters that are engaging in battle on a regular basis? It would be great if the pc had the ability to let their hair down during down time, but I don't see them putting in extra effort for it. You can use the argument of "fantasy game" pretty much anywhere. But truth is, there are just certain things that suspend belief for people, even in a game about space magic and mind-melding alien chicks. It may not be long hair for you, it may be something else. But come on, I can't be the only one who raised an eyebrow at Ashley's ME3 hairstyle, especially since she had it pulled back the last two games.

 

Besides, I think it's less "no one should be allowed to play a character with long hair", and more of hoping they put in the time for decent looking short styles and updos first.

 

I think the key word in your post here is "prefer". Nobody has a problem with preference. In fact, I think preference is exactly what people are arguing for. It's the diehards that are hell bent on everything being done in a current military manner that seem to be having the problem with what others want the option of doing.

 

There shouldn't be any need for a "fantasy" argument to pass muster. There should be no muster. If people who are so terrified about immersion being broken don't want it broken, then they don't have to break it. Why that means that others must bear the cost of such limitations in their own games where those fears are unfounded is beyond me. I don't need my character to look like Ripley in Aliens to believe she can run for her life, shoot a gun, talk smack, steal things, beat people up, or anything else. Just don't see any more of a connection between hair length and ability to be a merc or soldier than I ever did see hair length having to do with being able to use a computer in a cubicle.

 

The military didn't enact such regulations over ability. They did it over compliance and maintenance of a uniform appearance. Cue people who will pretend it has to do with identifying women on battlefields but women weren't on battlefields when these regulations came about. They were on bases doing yeoman type duties or else were in medical units.

 

One could also try to force things to stay in this time to avoid the probability that a different time and society such as the one in Andromeda might have completely different military rules. But one wouldn't have to go there either:

 

 

 

 

The IDF already disagrees right here.

[SKAR]

I think the key word in your post here is "prefer". Nobody has a problem with preference. In fact, I think preference is exactly what people are arguing for. It's the diehards that are hell bent on everything being done in a current military manner that seem to be having the problem with what others want the option of doing.

There shouldn't be any need for a "fantasy" argument to pass muster. There should be no muster. If people who are so terrified about immersion being broken don't want it broken, then they don't have to break it. Why that means that others must bear the cost of such limitations in their own games where those fears are unfounded is beyond me. I don't need my character to look like Ripley in Aliens to believe she can run for her life, shoot a gun, talk smack, steal things, beat people up, or anything else. Just don't see any more of a connection between hair length and ability to be a merc or soldier than I ever did see hair length having to do with being able to use a computer in a cubicle.

The military didn't enact such regulations over ability. They did it over compliance and maintenance of a uniform appearance. Cue people who will pretend it has to do with identifying women on battlefields but women weren't on battlefields when these regulations came about. They were on bases doing yeoman type duties or else were in medical units.

One could also try to force things to stay in this time to avoid the probability that a different time and society such as the one in Andromeda might have completely different military rules. But one wouldn't have to go there either:







The IDF already disagrees right here.

The IDF and their special forces, sayeret matkal are bad@$$.

[Serza]

Enough you fool! It's a VIDEO GAME!!!!!!! I hate to be harsh but you won't listen to reason.

 

What's up? I keep having good counter-arguments? Had to stoop down to insults?

 

no ****. If a little kid plays the game it's not bioware's fault. Its the parents. They read the label. It's for mature people. 17+

 

You can relatively easily go 21+/AO with sex scenes...

[rocklikeafool]

The IDF and their special forces, sayeret matkal are bad@$$.

In combat, IDF are also required to keep their hair bound up in their helmets...

 

So...same as US female soldiers. Or any other competent military today.

[SKAR]

What's up? I keep having good counter-arguments? Had to stoop down to insults?


You can relatively easily go 21+/AO with sex scenes...

insults? Your counter arguments have no power here. (I wish I had a picture of that king from lord of the rings). The witcher isn't AO. They're doing it right.

[SKAR]

In combat, IDF are also required to keep their hair bound up in their helmets...

So...same as US female soldiers. Or any other competent military today.

then Ryder ties her hair up in combat.

[Jedi Comedian]

no ****. If a little kid plays the game it's not bioware's fault. Its the parents. They read the label. It's for mature people. 17+

Of course it ain't Bio's fault, it's the parents' fault, they complain later but it was them who bought their children said games without reading the labels/not giving a **** about them.

[Serza]

I think the key word in your post here is "prefer". Nobody has a problem with preference. In fact, I think preference is exactly what people are arguing for. It's the diehards that are hell bent on everything being done in a current military manner that seem to be having the problem with what others want the option of doing.

 

There shouldn't be any need for a "fantasy" argument to pass muster. There should be no muster. If people who are so terrified about immersion being broken don't want it broken, then they don't have to break it. Why that means that others must bear the cost of such limitations in their own games where those fears are unfounded is beyond me. I don't need my character to look like Ripley in Aliens to believe she can run for her life, shoot a gun, talk smack, steal things, beat people up, or anything else. Just don't see any more of a connection between hair length and ability to be a merc or soldier than I ever did see hair length having to do with being able to use a computer in a cubicle.

 

The military didn't enact such regulations over ability. They did it over compliance and maintenance of a uniform appearance. Cue people who will pretend it has to do with identifying women on battlefields but women weren't on battlefields when these regulations came about. They were on bases doing yeoman type duties or else were in medical units.

 

One could also try to force things to stay in this time to avoid the probability that a different time and society such as the one in Andromeda might have completely different military rules. But one wouldn't have to go there either:

 

 

 

 

The IDF already disagrees right here.

 

Wooo... IDF. One of the few armies that allows this. Whereever I looked, the definition of "long hair" was "long hair that doesn't reach the shoulders anyway" ie the classic Mass Effect bun. (Oh, and I haven't actually looked at IDF regs, so who knows...)

 

Now, I wonder what weapon's in the second picture... but not much.

[SKAR]

Wooo... IDF. One of the few armies that allows this. Whereever I looked, the definition of "long hair" was "long hair that doesn't reach the shoulders anyway" ie the classic Mass Effect bun. (Oh, and I haven't actually looked at IDF regs, so who knows...)

Now, I wonder what weapon's in the second picture... but not much.

I can counter this with two words. Video Game.

[Serza]

In combat, IDF are also required to keep their hair bound up in their helmets...

 

So...same as US female soldiers. Or any other competent military today.

 

See?

 

insults? Your counter arguments have no power here. (I wish I had a picture of that king from lord of the rings). The witcher isn't AO. They're doing it right.

 

I don't know about your country, but around here, calling people "fools" is considered an insult.

 

And my arguments have no power merely because you do not wish to see the other side of the coin.

 

then Ryder ties her hair up in combat.

 

Looking for a compromise, now? I suppose 'tis only fair...

[SKAR]

See?


I don't know about your country, but around here, calling people "fools" is considered an insult.

And my arguments have no power merely because you do not wish to see the other side of the coin.


Looking for a compromise, now? I suppose 'tis only fair...

Video Game.

[Khrystyn]

NO LONG HAIR! etc., etc. I could go on.

 

Serza, I've read your (several) 'con' arguments and you have not given any legitimate reason as to why a fantasy game can't take some optional liberties with CC choices that aren't up to stringent military regs. It doesn't matter one bit if no military in history ever allowed women to wear longer hair. Clearly you'll be able to create your ideal close-cropped GI Joe/Jane, but your ideal cannot be imposed on others - thankfully. 

 

You've made your preferences clear, so leave it at that.

[sjsharp2011]

Yes, you could go on and on and on, and you are still missing the whole point. it's a fantasy game.

 

Things that suspend belief and stretch certain realities are OooooKaaaay, and so are simple choices like hair length. It's like arguing with a brick wall. No one has ever advocated for long hair only. Allow people to have preferences and options. Who cares if it stretches certain 'practicalities' of warfare? ME is not a training sim to join elite military programs, right? No one's forcing you to customize long hair, right? Short hair styles are not going away, right? The only thing we are 'sort of' forced to do is leave the Milky Way. Choose your short hair options and be happy, and let others have their fun too.

 

Lighten up. It's not personal.

Indeed I've created both short and long haired characters in Dragon Age both with  mods and without and I'd like the options of being able to do the same in ME as well. Although ideally with them already built into the game.rather than having to install them with modding because that can be awkward.

[SKAR]

Serza, I've read your (several) 'con' arguments and you have not given any legitimate reason as to why a fantasy game can't take some optional liberties with CC choices that aren't up to stringent military regs. It doesn't matter one bit if no military in history ever allowed women to wear longer hair. Clearly you'll be able to create your ideal close-cropped GI Joe/Jane, but your ideal cannot be imposed on others - thankfully.

You've made your preferences clear, so leave it at that.

Ashley is a good example how you can have long hair. I saw your pic and I'm like I almost forgot. It doesn't hinder her or anything. That can work.

[sjsharp2011]

Ashley is a good example how you can have long hair. I saw your pic and I'm like I almost forgot. It doesn't hinder her or anything. That can work.

yeah both Ashley and Miranda are both good examples of that . In fact my current warden I'm running with on my latest DAO playthrough has shoulder length hair.

[Serza]

Ashley is a good example how you can have long hair. I saw your pic and I'm like I almost forgot. It doesn't hinder her or anything. That can work.

 

It also feels strongly out of character.

[SKAR]

It also feels strongly out of character.

Video Game. Surrender my friend. You're outnumbered. You can't win. Think rationally.