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[Jedi Comedian]

Video Game. Surrender my friend. You're outnumbered. You can't win. Think rationally.

Heck, some US male soldiers in Afghanistan have long hair and long beards. If we are out there exploring uncharted planets for months or even years it should be an option.

[sjsharp2011]

It also feels strongly out of character.

I didn't think so I thought th look suited her personally.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

It also feels strongly out of character.

 

To be fair Mass Effect has never really been super realistic when it comes to military and regulations. Shepard bangs half the crew on ship, Military engagements consist of mostly infantry engagements with no artillery or air support, "No time for aerial bombardment" (like ever), Open face breather masks, bringing swords to gun fights and so on to name a few. Not to mention this one;

 

Honestly longer hair is the least of the issue when it comes to realism as that would have to be addressed from the ground up. Me personally I've always found those long overflowing hair to be weird in this setting but if people want longer hair, it isn't all that far fetched comparatively. 

 

About the spec ops guys being able to grow beards and longer hair though, that's very circumstantial as afar as I know. Those were part of the relaxed grooming standards enjoyed by these guys since it helped them mingle with the locals more easily and blend in. Also because of wartime leniency and there wasn't really an issue of chemical or biological weapons being used against them.

 

But in a standard military setting and while back on base away from the war duty, they are required to follow these standards just like everyone else. 

[SKAR]

To be fair Mass Effect has never really been super realistic when it comes to military and regulations. Shepard bangs half the crew on ship, Military engagements consist of mostly infantry engagements with no artillery or air support, "No time for aerial bombardment" (like ever), Open face breather masks, bringing swords to gun fights and so on to name a few. Not to mention this one;


Honestly longer hair is the least of the issue when it comes to realism as that would have to be addressed from the ground up. Me personally I've always found those long overflowing hair to be weird in this setting but if people want longer hair, it isn't all that far fetched comparatively.

About the spec ops guys being able to grow beards and longer hair though, that's very circumstantial as afar as I know. Those were part of the relaxed grooming standards enjoyed by these guys since it helped them mingle with the locals more easily and blend in. Also because of wartime leniency and there wasn't really an issue of chemical or biological weapons being used against them.

But in a standard military setting and while back on base away from the war duty, they are required to follow these standards just like everyone else.

we haven't seen the entirety of how the Alliance functions and how military engagements go down. and omni blades are more useful than you think.

[Merengues 1945]

I would like the option to have long hairstyles. They've done it for companion characters like Miranda and Ashley. I don't see any reason why they can't do the same for our own character.

 

However, I would prefer it if all of the hairstyles were "proper". Practical ones. Not ones that are fashionable for the sake of fashion. There still has to be logic behind the design choice.

 

Well yes, but the last ME and DA pretty much only had fifty shades of bald, what's the logic in that? You only need one kind of bald, not ten... I have seen some hair mods for Inquisition that would be great in Mass Effect, they're practical but far from military boring, I'm currently using one that is the exact copy of Ciri's hair from Witcher 3.

 

And it depends on how military is the ship you command, in a ship more like Cerberus' Normandy, it would not be unproper to have long hair since it didn't have regulations. You need to express yourself in space, that would be the logic behind it.

 

Now, why limit to female characters, guys too need their man bun instead of just twenty different kinds of baldy.

[Battlebloodmage]

except in real life women can have long hair in the military....lol. Long hair is NOT a "crazy idea". Beyond all that we won't even have access to the military once we leave the milky way...so who the **** cares about military regulations? And you know it would cost them more resources to always cut hair super short then just to allow it grow out in their voyage. It would make way more sense to ration resources and utensils used for cutting and shaving. 

Depending on the army, most are at shoulder length. Plus, cutting hair is not just a woman's problem, men have to cut hair up short as well and they somehow can afford it? Regular rules of the military already stated that, and that would I would have prefer for them to keep it that way. I'm just expressing my preference, no need to get all hostile here. I don't what they do, but I would rather for them to keep a realistic perspective on it. It's just personal preference at the end of the day.

[Patricia08]

 

 

 

Long hair.

 

 

 

 

Longer hair.

 

 

 

 

And the longest hair see it is possible that we can wear long hair in the army so to all the people who do not like long hair for army women i give you this  . 

[Patricia08]

We need the WITCHER. If the Polish can do it, so can the Canadians.

 

I agree so common Bioware show us beautiful long and flowing hair in the next game ME A for instance and then DA 4 . 

[Mdizzletr0n]

Long hair.
 

 
Longer hair.
 

 
And the longest hair see it is possible that we can wear long hair in the army so to all the people who do not like long hair for army women i give you this  .

Israeli army?

[Patricia08]

It's a heart warming song about her finally coming out.


Be warned, you'll be singing it all the time.

 

Yesterday i did not have the time anymore to watch the clip but now i have and i watched it. And i have to say it is a beautiful song and you are right it is a heart warming song and the "you - tube" video is also wonderful. That's some Magic she shows there that's something else then fire ice bolts at your enemies in DA I.

 

And you are right again i already sing the song while i'm writing these words down. 

 

Let it go 

Let it go 

Can't hold it back anymore

Let it go 

Let it go

Turn away and slam the door

I don't care

What they're going to say 

And so on and so forth just beautiful    . 

[Patricia08]

You have to! Its amazing To be honest... I was thinking Disney movies were getting worse and worse these past few years... then Frozen came out... and Inside Out... and Star Wars The Force Awakens... and I love Disney again The songs in Frozen are amazing... im 26 and not afraid to say I have the CD x

 

Frozen is amazing... it deals with such important topics like loneliness and... god I cant tell you how much I love the film... its not another prince saving a helpless princess Disney movie its just so good... if I didnt love Star Wars so much Frozen would be my favorite film of all time

 

... sorry I got a little distracted away from the actual topic... so... im gonna try and link it back...

 

Elsa's hair in Frozen is amazing and so is Anna's and I hope theyll make hair like that in the game... Anna's hair especially because I love the color...

 

Okay i believe you and you are right Disney is coming back with wonderful movies like you said Star Wars The Force Awakens but also with Cinderella and i have not seen Frozen yet but i will you convinced me .

 

I am a Star Wars fan myself and i don't think Frozen can beat that but you never know maybe Frozen will.

[Patricia08]

... thats a beautiful song... and not about farting I promise x

 

No most certainly not about farting. 

[Patricia08]

Video Game. Surrender my friend. You're outnumbered. You can't win. Think rationally.

 

Yes true hopelessly outnumbered  . 

[TurianSpectre]

Okay i believe you and you are right Disney is coming back with wonderful movies like you said Star Wars The Force Awakens but also with Cinderella and i have not seen Frozen yet but i will you convinced me .

 

I am a Star Wars fan myself and i don't think Frozen can beat that but you never know maybe Frozen will.

erm erm erm i think i just fell in love lol

[JPVNG]

Long hair.
 Patricia, i like your soldiers photos.Thanks

 
Longer hair.
 

 
And the longest hair see it is possible that we can wear long hair in the army so to all the people who do not like long hair for army women i give you this  .

[Giant ambush beetle]

Israeli army?

Israeli army is special in many more ways. 

 

The military in my country requires you to have hair that does not extend beyond your chin/upper neck. 

 

Makes sense, I was camping with friends who had long hair, on day two they had all kind of nasty stuff and gunk in it, on day 4 it was greasy and really really gross. Making a hair bun didn't help much, they simply had a big dirty greasy lump on their head which didn't improve things much. And oh boy, when it started to rain the long hair never dried which was a real problem because it was barely above freezing. The last thing you want is hypothermia on your head.  

 

According to my personal experiences I really doubt any real soldier wants to bother with long hair out in the field. Certainly not for looks because the good looks of long hair starts to deteriorate quickly out in the open when camping, crawling in the mud etc. From a practical standpoint it makes even less sense. 

 

It just makes as little sense as having a soldier who sports all sorts of facial piercings. Might look good (to some) but in real prolonged combat out in the field it creates all kinds of nasty problems. 

[Patricia08]

 Patricia, i like your soldiers photos.Thanks

 

 

Oh those photos are not mine someone else posted those. 

[sjsharp2011]

Yesterday i did not have the time anymore to watch the clip but now i have and i watched it. And i have to say it is a beautiful song and you are right it is a heart warming song and the "you - tube" video is also wonderful. That's some Magic she shows there that's something else then fire ice bolts at your enemies in DA I.

 

And you are right again i already sing the song while i'm writing these words down. 

 

Let it go 

Let it go 

Can't hold it back anymore

Let it go 

Let it go

Turn away and slam the door

I don't care

What they're going to say 

And so on and so forth just beautiful    . 

Yeah not seen the film but I have heard the song though as I heard it on X factor.

[Serza]

Israeli army is special in many more ways. 

 

The military in my country requires you to have hair that does not extend beyond your chin/upper neck. 

 

Makes sense, I was camping with friends who had long hair, on day two they had all kind of nasty stuff and gunk in it, on day 4 it was greasy and really really gross. Making a hair bun didn't help much, they simply had a big dirty greasy lump on their head which didn't improve things much. And oh boy, when it started to rain the long hair never dried which was a real problem because it was barely above freezing. The last thing you want is hypothermia on your head.  

 

According to my personal experiences I really doubt any real soldier wants to bother with long hair out in the field. Certainly not for looks because the good looks of long hair starts to deteriorate quickly out in the open when camping, crawling in the mud etc. From a practical standpoint it makes even less sense. 

 

It just makes as little sense as having a soldier who sports all sorts of facial piercings. Might look good (to some) but in real prolonged combat out in the field it creates all kinds of nasty problems. 

 

I'm glad someone sees sense. Smoking also seems discouraged, since many roles specifically state that it is a disadvantage (looking at you, scout-sniper courses).

[MsKlaussen]

In combat, IDF are also required to keep their hair bound up in their helmets...

 

So...same as US female soldiers. Or any other competent military today.

 

Yes. But should that helmet come off or be otherwise unavailable, said female soldiers don't drop the guns and pick up a box of Tupperware goods and start heading for the nearest suburban living room with a warm welcoming fire and room for a circle either. They keep shooting folks in the face. Guess who doesn't see an issue here? The dead. If those women don't put their hair back in the buns? The dead don't mind much. They also don't send back bullets that don't come from guns held by women with official immersion guarding bowl cuts. They keep those bullets real close. Just like the others.

[FuzzyThoctar]

I think the key word in your post here is "prefer". Nobody has a problem with preference. In fact, I think preference is exactly what people are arguing for. It's the diehards that are hell bent on everything being done in a current military manner that seem to be having the problem with what others want the option of doing.

 

There shouldn't be any need for a "fantasy" argument to pass muster. There should be no muster. If people who are so terrified about immersion being broken don't want it broken, then they don't have to break it. Why that means that others must bear the cost of such limitations in their own games where those fears are unfounded is beyond me. I don't need my character to look like Ripley in Aliens to believe she can run for her life, shoot a gun, talk smack, steal things, beat people up, or anything else. Just don't see any more of a connection between hair length and ability to be a merc or soldier than I ever did see hair length having to do with being able to use a computer in a cubicle.

 

The military didn't enact such regulations over ability. They did it over compliance and maintenance of a uniform appearance. Cue people who will pretend it has to do with identifying women on battlefields but women weren't on battlefields when these regulations came about. They were on bases doing yeoman type duties or else were in medical units.

 

One could also try to force things to stay in this time to avoid the probability that a different time and society such as the one in Andromeda might have completely different military rules. But one wouldn't have to go there either:

 

 

 

Okay? I'm not sure why you are defending the inclusion of long hair to me, since I clarified in my second post that I am not against long hair being added to the CC. As I said, if it's already used on companions, it might as well be available to players, too. If a person wants to play a character with hair down to their ankles, it doesn't matter to me. I like styles that consist of long hair being tied up (updos) because that's how I wear it when I do target practice. Because of that, I hope they won't just add nice long (loose) styles, but improve upon the shorter ones too (not just stick with the same old stuff). The two do not need to be mutually exclusive. And I do think people have a problem with others' preferences, otherwise there wouldn't be all these posts being made to prove each other wrong.

 

Holy hell, people take the CC in their games seriously.

[MsKlaussen]

Israeli army?

 

Affirmative!

[MsKlaussen]

 

 

 

 

Look! It works! Regulation hair on this one!

 

[Captain Crash]

My main gripes with hair in ME has always been how 'plastic' and static it is.  If the inclusion of longer hairstyles can in turn make them a bit more fluid I am all for it.  that and of course a little more variety.  Can never have enough choice!

[SKAR]

My main gripes with hair in ME has always been how 'plastic' and static it is. If the inclusion of longer hairstyles can in turn make them a bit more fluid I am all for it. that and of course a little more variety. Can never have enough choice!

We have the frostbite engine on the next gen. I'm sure it'll look fine. GrPhics get better every year. They'll probably look better than DAI.