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You mean crazy?


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I'm going totally off topic here but i have to say this that it is much more alive here on the Mass Effect side. When i am gone for about 5 minutes i already miss out on so much posts. And i also have to say that it is much more fun on this side then on the DA I side sorry DA I side ;).

Same here, same here  ;)


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I'm going totally off topic here but i have to say this that it is much more alive here on the Mass Effect side. When i am gone for about 5 minutes i already miss out on so much posts. And i also have to say that it is much more fun on this side then on the DA I side sorry DA I side ;).


Yeah, so many more personalities on this side of the forum.
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Yeah, so many more personalities on this side of the forum.

Maybe some of the better ones lol



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Now ask yourself, how can modders do this? But the actual devs of the game can not? I really see a problem with that.

Agreed yes they clip a little bit bu tthey'er not as bad as what some make out plus with hair physics added they might be able to find ways around it. Lets see how FIFA handles oit because apparently FIFA 17 is going to be on Frostbite also given that they recently added womens football last year and aer adding more teams to that for this year we might get to se ewhether it can work better . Admittedly it dosen't work great on the PGA game but we don't know how much work wen tinto that really given they didn't give us many options on that and the options we do get are pretty basic. Personally I'd have kept FIFA on the Ignite one because I think it looked better than Frostbite but I'm guessing that EA want all their games powered by the one engine from now on across all their franchises.


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Agreed yes they clip a little bit bu tthey'er not as bad as what some make out plus with hair physics added they might be able to find ways around it. Lets see how FIFA handles oit because apparently FIFA 17 is going to be on Frostbite also given that they recently added womens football last year and aer adding more teams to that for this year we might get to se ewhether it can work better . Admittedly it dosen't work great on the PGA game but we don't know how much work wen tinto that really given they didn't give us many options on that and the options we do get are pretty basic. Personally I'd have kept FIFA on the Ignite one because I think it looked better than Frostbite but I'm guessing that EA want all their games powered by the one engine from now on across all their franchises.


Hair clipping is an issue in most games. If the reason EAware doesn't give us long hair is because of clipping issues, that's a weak reason.
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Hair clipping is an issue in most games. If the reason EAware doesn't give us long hair is because of clipping issues, that's a weak reason.

They're one of the leading game designers out there, and they have the frostbite engine being used on the new ME game which has been used for alot of decent games and hair clipping hasnt been an issue in them so yes if they come up with that excuse then yeah they are pretty much bullshitting the matter


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They're one of the leading game designers out there, and they have the frostbite engine being used on the new ME game which has been used for alot of decent games and hair clipping hasnt been an issue in them so yes if they come up with that excuse then yeah they are pretty much bullshitting the matter


Then again Inquisition was made in frostbit, and still no long hair. It seems EAware like crew cuts alot.
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I think long hair as an option is an absolute must. Many militaries around the world do not require short hair, and the United States doesn't require it either for females although they must be able to put it up. I would like to think that by the time we are out cruising the stars that it is not a consideration. Our female astronauts have long hair, as an example. Regardless, if I'm going to be staring at a character for thousands and thousands of hours of my life, I don't want her to have short, clipped, ugly hair. I want my hero to be hot, not lesbianesque. And I definitely think that not having the option will affect sales across the board.

 

Lesbianesques? is this a word? I must be getting quite old. I have really long hair, does this mean I am a heteroanesque?


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Then again Inquisition was made in frostbit, and still no long hair. It seems EAware like crew cuts alot.

I dont know, they have longer hairstyles than whats in the ME games, even in DA2 there is much longer hairstyles although there is some clipping but its expected as the game was released before ME3


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Lesbianesques? is this a word? I must be getting quite old. I have really long hair, does this mean I am a heteroanesque?

Even i struggled to make sense of this one haha


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I would like the option to have long hairstyles. They've done it for companion characters like Miranda and Ashley. I don't see any reason why they can't do the same for our own character.

 

However, I would prefer it if all of the hairstyles were "proper". Practical ones. Not ones that are fashionable for the sake of fashion. There still has to be logic behind the design choice.

Agreed :) I don't want long hair for the sake of fashion, nor do I think women want to be displayed as the "eye candy" at all times with long "sexy" hair in a battle. They need to go with piratical and realistic rather than girly and fashionable. 

 

Like they have been doing for pretty much all the games, I just hope the texturing is better than in DAI. 



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Agreed :) I don't want long hair for the sake of fashion, nor do I think women want to be displayed as the "eye candy" at all times with long "sexy" hair in a battle. They need to go with piratical and realistic rather than girly and fashionable. 

 

Like they have been doing for pretty much all the games, I just hope the texturing is better than in DAI. 

You can have both you know, for the guys that want a change from playing as a male character most want to create a female that they would pretty much bang so having longer hairstyles with the shorter ones mixed in adds more customization options to make this possible... you dont have to use the longer hairs if you dont want to



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You can have both you know, for the guys that want a change from playing as a male character most want to create a female that they would pretty much bang so having longer hairstyles with the shorter ones mixed in adds more customization options to make this possible... you dont have to use the longer hairs if you dont want to

yeah I tend to use the longer hairstyles in DA2 for that reason to kind of make a kick ass sexy goddess bu tthen I find that part of the fun of playing games like this. If you don't want them and you're not playing a character you think will fi tthem then don't pick them simple as that. Those of us who do want to play that kind of chjaracter will then at least have options that allow us to create them. All we're asking is for a few better options really in this regard because this is an area in which Bioware have struggled in. DA2 I thought they did OK despite the limitations but since then they've kind of gone backwards again. The idea for me of making great games is to push forward and test the limitation snot step back once you start to get something right. Admittedly the rest of DA2 was a bit weak but this for me was one of it's better features and one of the few that Boiware got pretty close to being excellent for the time and technology.

 

Hair clipping is an issue in most games. If the reason EAware doesn't give us long hair is because of clipping issues, that's a weak reason.

I agree with you on that for sure. They did a pretty decent job with the womens hair on Fifa 16 although that was on the Ignite engine not Frostbite. I also believe that over tim ethey may well overcome these issues but they need to startrtying in oder for that to happen as it won't happen overnight or without effort. If  Frostbite is as good as EA likes to think it is they've got to be prepared to push it to it's limits on these games. From what I've seen of Battlefront graphics wise it's pretty awesome but then Frostbite is pretty good at doing locations. People on the other hand it does seem to struggle a little bit but with enough effort hopefully this can improve.


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You mean crazy?

 

So you call yourself crazy hmm weird you know that you are on the ME side right :P ?


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Yeah, so many more personalities on this side of the forum.

 

True if i had known this before i would have bin here from the start. 


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Maybe some of the better ones lol

 

Well now i am here i totally agree  :P  :rolleyes:  B).  

 

I'm just kidding of course  :)


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Talking about reasons not to give Shepard long hair... she's in the military. So, yeah. Let's just pretend Ashley Williams didn't randomly forget that she should tie her bleeping hair up when on-duty in Mass Effect 3 for the sake of making her more attractive. >_>;; It doesn't make story sense for Shepard to have hair that's more than medium length.

 

On a technical level, BioWare also treats hair as a stiff object, and even in ME3 it's just a stiff object that twists as you turn your head rather than actually moving. To make long hair work animation-wise, they'd have to give it physics--like The Witcher 3 does. And let me just say that nothing in videogames is visually WOW like hair with proper goddamn physics.

 

BioWare has always been stiff and lifeless on the animation front, though, so I'll be surprised if they go that far.



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Then again Inquisition was made in frostbit, and still no long hair. It seems EAware like crew cuts alot.

 

 

I dont know, they have longer hairstyles than whats in the ME games, even in DA2 there is much longer hairstyles although there is some clipping but its expected as the game was released before ME3

 

You call that longer hair in Inquisition for me that is still a short haircut but that's my opinion.  


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You call that longer hair in Inquisition for me that is still a short haircut but that's my opinion.  

Yeah i know what you mean but it was longer than all the hairstyles in ME lol


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The hair on that Tomb Raider game looked better on OFF than anything I've seen in either ME or TES.

 

Wow.


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Yeah i know what you mean but it was longer than all the hairstyles in ME lol

 

True but still way to short ;).

 

It looks more like some sort of plastic cap what your characters and companions wear on their heads in the Bioware games. 


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True but still way to short ;).

Hey dont make fun of my height... oh wait read that wrong lol  :P  ;)


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You call that longer hair in Inquisition for me that is still a short haircut but that's my opinion.


I call long hair all that is past the chin.
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The hair on that Tomb Raider game looked better on OFF than anything I've seen in either ME or TES.

 

Wow.

 

True or the hair in The Witcher 3 game that also looks pretty good. 


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