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[Biotic Apostate]

I would say they are bisexual, since that is still a homosexual action.

Men being pegged by women with strap ons is homosexual behaviour? No wonder you seemed so painfully uneducated in that Weekes thread, you have absolutely no clue what homosexuality even is. Honestly, you're embarrassing yourself.

 

I'm against that. A character should be a companion for reasons relevant to the storyline, and injecting various sexualities into each one makes it seem forced and out of place. According to current lore, even in DA:I, same-sex sexual behavior was not common. So it doesn't make sense to have it featured that much within the party itself. DA:I was a decent ratio, even if two of them didn't really make sense with the storyline. Sera I could understand. Dorian's story seemed forced, and in my bugged playthrough, non-existent. Iron Bull's made zero sense.

And BW is writing characters like Dorian who are relevant to the storyline and happen to be LGBT. Leliana having a past relationship with Marjolaine, Anders with Karl, Isabela talking about both same-sex and opposite sex attraction is not forced, it adds texture to the world. Nowhere in the canon was it stated how prevalent non-heterosexuality is in Thedas. And it's curious that people like you never moan about how straight characters are forced. Blackwall has no more relevance to the story than Bull.

 

There's also the fact that you cannot apply statistics to a non-random sample of the population (which is our party). How probable is that in one randomly selected group from the Marches you have 4 people from Ferelden (with 1 having Orlesian roots), 2 from the Marches, 1 from Nevvara, 1 from Tevinter, and 1 from Rivain?

 

There are no BW employees who support your quest for less LGBT companions or the lack of trans romances, so you're just wasting our time.

 

Yeah, so then straight males would have zero straight female romances. You want BioWare to go from not catering to straight males to outright alienating us.

If you, for some reason, don't want to date bisexual women, you have only yourself to blame for limiting your options.

 

Other than the fact that it causes physical damage to internal organs, there's also the fact that poop comes from there.

I'm not going to explain what hygiene is to you, because there's no point, but if you're not rough, neither anal, nor vaginal sex cause physical damage. If you are, both can lead to injuries. 

 

Honestly, you're not adding anything valuable to the conversation here.

[AresKeith]

^^
She would be straight anyway or all the crab asses would complain. Bioware may as well just flip me off, it would be better than forcing me to play male to romance a trans character.

 

But why though, if it makes sense that Mae is attracted to males only then that should be the characters preference 

[Dani100]

But why though, if it makes sense that Mae is attracted to males only then that should be the characters preference

I have no problem with anyone's sexuality, her being straight in the comic was fine. All I'm saying is that it would be a poor choice for me to have the first trans romance in a game only available to people capable of playing male. It's not the easiest thing to do for some of us, it certainly isn't for me, I've still never romanced Cass because it's just too difficult and I loved Cass. All I'm saying is in my opinion it would be best for trans people to have the first romance available to both genders. Asking a trans person to play a gender that has been at the very best uncomfortable, is problematic.

[Qun00]

Funny that some people are bringing up pegging, because Mae doesn't quite need a strap-on.

The common argument that "it isn't gay sex because it's just a piece of plastic" wouldn't apply here.

[thats1evildude]

Funny that some people are bringing up pegging, because Mae doesn't quite need a strap-on.

The common argument that "it isn't gay sex because it's just a piece of plastic" wouldn't apply here.

You mean the afore-mentioned big, sweaty summer sausage and the two swingy testicles between her legs? As other posters have said, in spite of those things, she is definitely a woman, so any straight man that doesn't find that appealing must actually be gay.

The only way for a straight man not attracted to Maevaris to also not to be gay is to become a transgendered woman, which would in turn make you a straight woman, and all the women you sleep with into lesbians (or possibly bisexuals).

Likewise, Krem is most definitely, definitely a man, so any gay man who's not attracted to Krem's rolled-up sock and wet, slippery vaj must actually be straight. Unless they also become a transgendered woman, which would in turn make them lesbians, and any gay man they slept with into straight males (or possibly bisexuals).

And if you don't want to have sex with Maevaris OR Krem, you must either be asexual or just a bigot. Actually, you're probably a bigot in the above situations as well.

My logic is undeniable.

[Andromelek]

What the heck did I just read?

[raging_monkey]

We need a lock before it become a antitrans orgy

[thats1evildude]

What the heck did I just read?

An argument for not treating acceptance of transgendered people and sexual attraction to transgendered people as the exact same thing.

[Qun00]

You mean the afore-mentioned big, veiny frankfenfurter and the two swingy testicles between her legs? As other posters have said, she is definitely a woman, so any straight man that doesn't find that appealing must actually be gay.

The only way for a straight man not attracted to Maevaris to also not to be gay is to become a transgendered woman, which would in turn make you a straight woman, and all the women you sleep with into lesbians (or possibly bisexuals).

Likewise, Krem is most definitely, definitely a man, so any gay man who's not attracted to Krem's rolled-up sock and wet, slippery vaj must actually be straight. Unless they also become a transgendered woman, which would in turn make them lesbians, and any gay man they slept with into straight males (or possibly bisexuals).

And if you don't want to have sex with Maevaris OR Krem, you must either be asexual or just a bigot. Actually, you're probably a bigot in the above situations as well.

My logic is undeniable.

If you can feel sexually attracted to Maevaris' mind, sure. But this is what you're dealing with when he isn't wearing makeup or a dress.

[thats1evildude]

All I see is a half-naked woman, which I find very appealing because I am straight, and it's been previously established that straight men love masculine figures and giant, veiny penises.

[Dani100]

Well I'll let you two have a little privacy for your little circle jerk. Have fun.

[Biotic Apostate]

For self-proclaimed straight men, you two sure talk about penises a lot. I'm gay, and I can't remember ever making so many penis related posts.

[Jedi Comedian]

Funny that some people are bringing up pegging, because Mae doesn't quite need a strap-on.

The common argument that "it isn't gay sex because it's just a piece of plastic" wouldn't apply here.

Even with a superfemenine trans woman with massive bewbs but with a "sword" stabbing a man, said man isn't gay. Trans pornography is aimed at men who like women.

I find wierd and ridiculous the 'phobic notion that gay men aren't men but trans women are men. Absurd.

[Jedi Comedian]

For self-proclaimed straight men, you two sure talk about penises a lot. I'm gay, and I can't remember ever making so many penis related posts.

LOL.

[Qun00]

All I see is a half-naked woman, which I find very appealing because I am straight, and it's been previously established that straight men love masculine figures and giant, veiny penises.

Then I believe you need to pay the optometrist another visit. Must've been a while.

[thats1evildude]

Well I'll let you two have a little privacy for your little circle jerk. Have fun.

Which I would totally enjoy, because as a straight man there is nothing I enjoy more than stroking another man's penis.

I reiterate: I'm totally in favour of Mae being a companion and an LI in the next game. I'm just not in favour of her being an LI at the expense of losing an option for myself. (Especially when the straight ladies will inevitably get five LI options.)

[Andromelek]

Ugh, this thread... it actually makes me wish to have a Composer.

[Qun00]

I can't say the mere presence of trans characters and companions would actually ruin my experience.

And if the devs want to include a trans LI, sure, go right ahead. I won't romance him/her myself, but the existence of said option wouldn't bother me.

Of course, if they decide that all options for straight men will be trans women, that is where I'm drawing the line. But that is unlikely.

For self-proclaimed straight men, you two sure talk about penises a lot. I'm gay, and I can't remember ever making so many penis related posts.

I know, right? Maybe we're actually gay too, in which case there's nothing stopping me from feeling attracted to Mae.

[Jedi Comedian]

I can't say the mere presence of trans characters and companions would actually ruin my experience.

And if the devs want to include a trans LI, sure, go right ahead. I won't romance him/her myself, but the existence of said option wouldn't bother me.

Of course, if they decide that all options for straight men will be trans women, that is where I'm drawing the line. But that is unlikely.


I know, right? Maybe we're actually gay too, in which case there's nothing stopping me from feeling attracted to Mae.

For the last frakin' time, gay men are attracted to M.E.N., NOT women. Mae doesn't has bewbs, that is true, but she's NOT cis, ergo, she's NOT a man.

[thats1evildude]

I don't know if attraction to transgendered people exactly makes you gay or straight, but I do know that declaring "Mae is a woman and therefore straight men MUST find her attractive!" is pretty fallacious.

For the last frakin' time, gay men are attracted to M.E.N., NOT women. Mae doesn't has bewbs, that is true, but she's NOT cis, ergo, she's NOT a man.

And therefore, any gay man not attracted to Krem must not be gay.

[Jedi Comedian]

I don't know if attraction to transgendered people exactly makes you gay or straight, but I do know that declaring "Mae is a woman and therefore straight men MUST find her attractive!" is pretty fallacious.

I haven't said ALL str8 dudes are open to being with a trans woman, I've said SOME are, and they are NOT gay, because the very definition of being a gay man is being attracted to CIS MEN (or in some cases trans men).

I think I'm getting outta the circle jerk now (shoudn've entered it to begin with LMAO).

[thats1evildude]

I haven't said ALL str8 dudes are open to being with a trans woman, I've said SOME are, and they are NOT gay, because the very definition of being a gay man is being attracted to CIS MEN (or in some cases trans men).

So why doesn't the definition of "straight" involve being attracted solely to CIS WOMEN?

Do you see the problem here? A gay man can say "I'm not attracted to FTM men" and there's no issue, but it's somehow wrong for me to say that I'm not attracted to MTF women?

You know, you could all just shut me up by conceding I may have a point.

[Jedi Comedian]

So why doesn't the definition of "straight" involve being attracted solely to CIS WOMEN?

Do you see the problem here? A gay man can say "I'm not attracted to FTM men" and there's no issue, but it's OK to shortchange me in terms of LI options despite the fact that I'm not attracted to MTF women?

You know, you could all just shut me up by conceding I may have a point.

I did say SOME str8s like trans women, and SOME gay men like trans men.

Let this be the official end of the circle jerk.

(* Or maybe not. I do need a little amusement)

[thats1evildude]

I did say SOME str8s like trans women, and SOME gay men like trans men.

Probably they do. That said, as a straight male, I should not be shortchanged in the next Dragon Age game by having one of my LI options replaced by Mae. It would be unfair to expect me to change my sexuality in the name of "inclusion."

That is all.

[Jedi Comedian]

That said, as a straight male, I should not be shortchanged in the next Dragon Age game by having one of my LI options replaced by Mae. That would be unfair.

Also, never said I wanted that, if anythin' I want 4 bi LIs, 2 guys/2 gals, no Mae.

Circle jerk Mode: Disabled (now 4 real).