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Maevaris Tilani As Companion/Adviser In Next DA Game?


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That depends on race. Elven women have four straight options, human women have three, and qunari and dwarves only have the two. If, like me, you weren't interested in Blackwall or Iron Bull...well that's where Josephine came in. 

elf female have elf male, and a damn godlike

 

kossith female have Bull

 

human female have knight general Cullen and Blackwall

 

dwarf female have non dwarf male but Blackwall is a grey warden with beard and dwarfs are like grey wardens

 

and there is none options for nonhumans and mages male heroes

 

males have 2 female human nobles andrastian nonmages who are friends of Lelianna

 

 

hope that bioware will not add Mae to romances cos Mae(or someone like Mae) would be a straight males romance and straight male romances already suffer much



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Fenris can be dead, so, I don't think he is the better device to give us a spec.


True. Probably doesn't know how it works anyway, but maybe that magister had notes his heir would get and can replicate it in secret on a favorable friend/servant/ally/client.

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If I remember correctly Mae uses some primal and healing spells in the comics.


Didn't know that, didn't read the comics. Sounds good to me, my Warden was Primal/Creation and fire tornadoes should make a return or at least a cameo.

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I believe everything I write, unless indicated that I'm being sarcastic.

Now, that is genuinely sad.


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Maybe someone need to create a posts and petition for bioware devs to not make Maevaris as Li option at all, as forced companion/advisor..it not to late for now

 

That would not work. Rather, it would have the reverse effect: Bioware would see that transphobes need some educatin' about tolerance, so Maevaris would definitely be placed in the game as an LI.

 

Trying to represent the diversity of your audience is itself an admirable goal. It just saddens me that it comes at my expense, especially when other demographics are so heavily favoured in terms of romance content.



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Political correctness.... a kind of racism on itself.

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Didn't know that, didn't read the comics. Sounds good to me, my Warden was Primal/Creation and fire tornadoes should make a return or at least a cameo.

 

Storm of the Century needs to return.  Nothing quite beats casting that in the Deep Roads and clearing out tunnels.


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#483
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Political correctness.... a kind of racism on itself.

I really hate PC, I definetly don't want forced lgbt chars, the only place I've seen well done gay chars was Spartacus.

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Storm of the Century needs to return.  Nothing quite beats casting that in the Deep Roads and clearing out tunnels.


BOOM!

You cannot not cackle madly when destroying everyone and your party.
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I really hate PC, I definetly don't want forced lgbt chars, the only place I've seen well done gay chars was Spartacus.


I think Dumbledore was a well done gay character too.

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BOOM!

You cannot not cackle madly when destroying everyone and your party.

 

Spell combos in general are something I want to see make a come back, or even a return to DA2's spell system.  I've always felt that DAO is what mages are meant to be in canon in all three games, but the devs realised just how OP they were.

 

I'm hoping that if we do get Mae then she'll have really Tevinter-based specialisation.  There's another thread about giving abilities based on background (which comes up in banter between the mages in DAI, but isn't clear from gameplay since they all use the same abilities.  DA2 did something like that by completely removing all forms of healing from Merrill)



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I think Dumbledore was a well done gay character too.

 

Well, he was a good character, but we might as well not have gay characters at all if they never at least express their sexuality.

 

Gays and lesbians and transgender people deserve representation. I'm just saying, in the race towards diversity in media, please don't stomp on my neck and shout at my corpse "That's what you get, male cis scum" along the way.


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Well, he was a good character, but we might as well not have gay characters at all if they never at least express their sexuality.


If sexuality is mentioned, fine. If it isn't, that's cool, too. Having people just randomly blurt out their sexuality at every chance makes them a token character.... which is dull...

By the way, I'm not a vegan. :P

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Well, he was a good character, but we might as well not have gay characters at all if they never at least express their sexuality.
 
Gays and lesbians and transgender people deserve representation. I'm just saying, in the race towards diversity in media, please don't stomp on my neck and shout at my corpse "That's what you get, cis scum" along the way.


That's why I like Star Wars and Halo, they became great franchises without having to please society's whims on "equality".

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That's why I like Star Wars and Halo, they became great franchises without having to please society's whims on "equality".

Because having an LGBT character would absolutely ruin the greatness of those franchises....
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#491
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titles in Magisterium can be losen easily as they hard to get
 
Maevaris have no heir and was officially a wife of a dwarf so there would not be a heir who can be a magister anyway, why he have a title after such, especiallly after dwarf was die so Mae should not have any connection with Ambasadoria
 
This is a huge question about Mae being a Magister and member of a Senat(and we do not know what Mae do for having such position), especially with this Mae opposition like Lucenri
 
Dorian was way too lucky to become a Magister via his father death, that was kinda mary sue


I think the Magisterium is just waiting for the Tilani bloodline to die out naturally.

I don't think someone outside the bloodline can inherit the seat. Everything about the Magisterium revolves around powerful bloodlines.

Someone like Calpernia might be accepted in as a new house, but she would not inherit anyone's seat. If Magister Tilani dies, that seat is no more. Then a new one would be created for Calpernia unrelated to Tilani's.

That's my impression of how the Magisterium works.

I'm aware. I'm just saying, having Mae replace one of the LI options for straight males as opposed to introducing her in addition to the straight male LI options would leave me less choices.


Here's a question for you T1ED, how many straight romances do you think there should be for a straight male before Tilani is added as a romance option for male characters, or does Tilani's addition automatically mean one straight option was lost?

Now, that is genuinely sad.


It only seems that way to you because you have not considered hearing the other side out. You've been limited only to those who have conditioned you to believe as you do. In reality, the majority of society believes the same as I do on these issues, and this is because most people accept that words have clear definitions.

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Like I said before, the presence of a trans LI wouldn't bother me. As long as there is at least one "cis woman" (as a feminist may call it) option, I'm happy.

People have asked politly before. It didn't work. This isn't a cute little debate. This is refusing to call someone by their correct gender, despite being asked several times to stop.


An ideology isn't to be forced upon others like an intellectual dictatorship.

Left wing oriented people believe in gender identity and that is their choice, but nobody has an obligation to follow suit.

I know, it is hard to grasp. It's like being devout to a religion and feeling shocked that not everyone considers it the ultimate truth.

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Because having an LGBT character would absolutely ruin the greatness of those franchises....


Not really, but they don't shout "Hey we've got LGBTs here!" when it happens (which is what annoys me) Halo for instance did have a lesbian couple, but they got slaughtered by the Covenant because on reality, being an LGBT doesn't grant you a shield. As for Star Wars it's been stated that there is something with Finn and Poe, and I'm fine with that.

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Because having an LGBT character would absolutely ruin the greatness of those franchises....

Both those franchises do have LGBT characters. 


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Like I said before, the presence of a trans LI wouldn't bother me. As long as there is at least one "cis woman" (as a feminist may call it) option, I'm happy.


An ideology isn't to be forced upon others like an intellectual dictatorship.

Left wing oriented people believe in gender identity and that is their choice, but nobody has an obligation to follow suit.

I know, it is hard to grasp. It's like being devout to a religion and feeling shocked that not everyone considers it the ultimate truth.

 

You're in a thread which is talking about how much people want to see Mae in a future game and you're deliberately using the wrong pronouns.

 

No-one forced you to come in here.  You did that all on your own and started talking in a way that you knew would upset people.


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Here's a question for you T1ED, how many straight romances do you think there should be for a straight male before Tilani is added as a romance option for male characters, or does Tilani's addition automatically mean one straight option was lost?

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I think there would have to be a total of three or more before the arguments against it cease or at least lose clout. The reason being is because even with Mae being a LI, there are still at least two other LIs that can be chosen so there are still options. 


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To bring this back on track, does anyone have any ideas about banter? We had some about Mae and Dorian, and Mae and Calpernia. Any others?

 

I'd personally like someone from a country/culture, where magic has a different role in society from Tevinter and Andrastian countries, like Rivain, or the Avvar. It doesn't have to be a mage, just someone, who is proud of their heritage. We've seen how Tevinter differs from most of Thedas in the treatment of mages and magic, but I think it would be interesting to have, for example, Mae and a son of a Rivaini seer (which is also my idea for a gay KISA, but that's OT) discuss magic. Rivain is one of the countries we could get in 4, so I think it would be a good way to show the differences and similarities between it and Tevinter in their banter.



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Like I said before, the presence of a trans LI wouldn't bother me. As long as there is at least one "cis woman" (as a feminist may call it) option, I'm happy.


An ideology isn't to be forced upon others like an intellectual dictatorship.

Left wing oriented people believe in gender identity and that is their choice, but nobody has an obligation to follow suit.

I know, it is hard to grasp. It's like being devout to a religion and feeling shocked that not everyone considers it the ultimate truth.

Okay, let's neutral point of view!

Whatever the "ultimate truth", according to the story Mae: SHE. This is the fact.

 

So: the pronouns did not relate to the ultimate truth. The pronouns based on agreement of a group of people. As I said before: for example my language do not have gender based pronouns.


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To bring this back on track, does anyone have any ideas about banter? We had some about Mae and Dorian, and Mae and Calpernia. Any others?
 
I'd personally like someone from a country/culture, where magic has a different role in society from Tevinter and Andrastian countries, like Rivain, or the Avvar. It doesn't have to be a mage, just someone, who is proud of their heritage. We've seen how Tevinter differs from most of Thedas in the treatment of mages and magic, but I think it would be interesting to have, for example, Mae and a son of a Rivaini seer (which is also my idea for a gay KISA, but that's OT) discuss magic. Rivain is one of the countries we could get in 4, so I think it would be a good way to show the differences and similarities between it and Tevinter in their banter.


-Nevarran Dragon hunter who is mean with all Vints due to their backstab during the Blight.

-A Qunari or a Fog Warrior (as they are constantly in conflict with Tevinter)

-Yavana/Valta/Whoever is our next smarty/weirdo.... smarties and weirdos are always good to have on the party due their talks, even when they suck on fighting.

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To bring this back on track, does anyone have any ideas about banter? We had some about Mae and Dorian, and Mae and Calpernia. Any others?

 

I'd personally like someone from a country/culture, where magic has a different role in society from Tevinter and Andrastian countries, like Rivain, or the Avvar. It doesn't have to be a mage, just someone, who is proud of their heritage. We've seen how Tevinter differs from most of Thedas in the treatment of mages and magic, but I think it would be interesting to have, for example, Mae and a son of a Rivaini seer (which is also my idea for a gay KISA, but that's OT) discuss magic. Rivain is one of the countries we could get in 4, so I think it would be a good way to show the differences and similarities between it and Tevinter in their banter.

 

I'd love to see Mae and Fenris have some banter, for the same reason I'd love to see banter between Fenris and Dorian (it would also be interesting to see them talk if BW go the route of Mae being the head of a faction that wants to reform Tevinter from the top, while Cal leads a more grassroots movement.  It's easy to say 'well, slavery is just a thing that happens' when you're not talking to someone who has suffered terribly under the system).