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Maevaris Tilani As Companion/Adviser In Next DA Game?


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I'd be really surprised if she didn't appear in some capacity.

 

Honestly, I'd love for her to be a companion if the writers feel like there's good material going that way. She seems like a fun character.

 

Edit: I also hope they can find a trans actress to voice her if she does appear.

 

A trans actress would be ideal to play the role.

 

Incidentally, I wonder how old Mae is meant to be, does anyone know?



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Asunder also confirms that Return to Ostagar was completed since the staff the Warden gives her is the one that you can loot from the chest the Tranquil was guarding.

I'm just glad that Charter is a sapphic character, although I'm sad that she likely wont be an LI, unless she's the poly option.


Eh, I don't find that the staff is evidence of confirmation. That particular staff, the Corrupted Magister's Staff, is made of red steel and is the only red steel staff in DAO. It also seems to corrupt Wynne herself when she uses it. However, it is still assumption as nothing is explicitly stated.

I don't really care if people like to assume things. Where I have an issue with it is when they use assumption to support arguments. I mean this in a general sense, not related to you specifically, because I've seen it done many times over many subjects. I would be OK with saying, "This thing might have happened because of such-and-such," but to say that something is "confirmed" to have happened isn't really accurate unless it's explicit, like Wynne speaking of her feelings on finding Cailan's body, or something.


That aside, I would have said that it was likely that all DLC content would be a part of the novel canon anyway, particularly something like Return to Ostagar since it is so story heavy. We already have the case of one DLC, Shale, being a definite part of the novel.

So, I suppose I agree with your conclusion, but not how you arrived at it.



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A trans actress would be ideal to play the role.
 
Incidentally, I wonder how old Mae is meant to be, does anyone know?


I kind of assumed she was a peer of Varric's, so that would put her around 40. She also seems to have a sort of big sisterly affection for Dorian, so that also makes me think she is older than he, who is 30 during DAI.
 
Oh noes! Another 40+ follower/LI!
 

I said this previously, but I would just prefer that they get the person they feel best and not cast a trans person simply because they are trans. Bioware is known for getting top notch vocal talent and their acting among the main characters is usually really good. They don't seem to cast a name or a type, they cast the sound of the person's voice. Sometimes the VA even switches gears to a different sound, as with both Fenris and Dorian, after casting. If they listen to a transwoman actor or VA and she has the qualities and sound they're looking for, then GREAT (!!), but I don't feel that they should rule out a cis person simply because the character is trans.
 
And too, you have to consider that this is the benefit of voice acting. We could have had all sorts of trans people voicing characters, cis characters, all along and we wouldn't know because it's just their voice. A black actor played Samurai Jack, while a Japanese actor played his nemesis. Indira Varma, half Indian and half Swiss, played Vivienne. John Curry, American, played Zevran and the American male Inquisitor; he has huge range. Sumalee Montano, Asian American, played the American female Inquisitor; she also has a huge range and I've heard her do an Eastern European (Diablo III) accent, along with others.
 
I thought Jennifer Hale did a great job with Krem.


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Also something to think about is the impression the voice makes on the player and whether they (the devs) want it to be obvious or ambiguous. I've mentioned my experience with Krem before, but I will reiterate. On first meeting, I thought he was an Avaline-type of warrior woman, and one reason was because of the VA, who I heard as clearly female. I happen to prefer a lower range of female voice, so I was unperturbed and gave it no other consideration. I don't play a large body of games, so I didn't recognize Jennifer Hale (I'm sure others did).

Is Bioware going to want to have a more androgynous sound for Mae, or a more male sound that is affected female, or a more clearly female sound? I really have no idea.

Just in an initial Google search, I ran across this forum thread concerning vocal changes for MtF. This one post struck me as quite interesting.
 

IMO the biggest difference between identifiably male and female speech is actually the speech patterns and not necessarily just the pitch. This is why some women have low voices but still sound very much like women. And so if you transitioned in your teens, then you would have picked up these speech patterns naturally instead of having to figure them out later in life after decades of talking like a guy.


In the end, I think it will come down to how they want Mae to sound, and the acting chops of whomever they decide on.

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#554
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This is on my list of shows to watch!  I've heard a lot of good things about it.

 

It's well worth it! And I'm not just saying that because of the bisexual psychic orgy.

 

Some people find it slow going at the start; if you're not completely sold at first keep watching until the end of Episode Four which is when it really takes off.

 

... um. On topic. What would happen if Mae and seven other people in Thedas suddenly woke up telepathically linked?



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It's well worth it! And I'm not just saying that because of the bisexual psychic orgy.


I don't watch the show, but I did see that scene on YT. The Wachowskis know how to film a sex/love scene, I'll give 'em that. For that one in particular, I actually preferred the initial lead up of the couples and single people experiencing it before the actual orgy part happened. I felt it lost the intimacy at that point. But I realize that is probably not a common viewpoint...
 

... um. On topic. What would happen if Mae and seven other people in Thedas suddenly woke up telepathically linked?


It would be interesting to know the ramifications for mage versus non-mage in that instance.

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It would be interesting to know the ramifications for mage versus non-mage in that instance.

 

That would be interesting. Cluster members share skills, but it seems that magic in Thedas is something you have or don't, not something you learn to do. I wonder if dwarves in a cluster with humans/elves/qunari would start visiting the Fade in dreams?



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And for for anyone playing the drinking game, down the glass now the dictionary definition of phobia has been brought in.

But it's usually phobia = fear, I don't know what's the protocol here. I'll go with two shots.

 

You don't get into the hivemind until you're a level 10 supergay.

Sweet! Only 100xp more from "agenda pushing" and I'm in!

 

Good to know! Actually, I suppose it should be referred to as the Collective, since some people think they want to assimilate everyone. "Come to the dark side. We have rainbow frosted cookies and layer cakes!"

My name is Legion, for we are many? (on a related note, you really need to play ME :P )

I still want those rainbow Oreos to be real.


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And I agree about the voice actor choice. They should select whomever they find best. The Walking Dead had Dave Fennoy (black) and Melissa Hutchison (white) playing Lee and Clementine, both black characters, and I wouldn't want it any other way. They worked so brilliantly together that it is impossible for me to imagine anyone else playing those roles. If the VA has some similarities then great. But if not, then it's not a big deal. They just need to find a voice that fits, everything else is not a priority.


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But it's usually phobia = fear, I don't know what's the protocol here. I'll go with two shots.


Well, people does attack what they fear, so I think the term is not really being misused, one often fears what is different from self.

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That would be interesting. Cluster members share skills, but it seems that magic in Thedas is something you have or don't, not something you learn to do. I wonder if dwarves in a cluster with humans/elves/qunari would start visiting the Fade in dreams?

I think you wrong. Magic is not something you have or don't have. magic is something countable. We have non mages who can use magic templars are non mages who using magic. And one mage not equal other. In Inquisition we have mage "Yes I am mage so what? I am not good at it I can't fight". And we have someone like Solas. Everyone have magic in Thedas just not everyone have it enough to practically use it. yes you can't learn magic but you can gain it. You need to learn spells and control magic.



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Well, people does attack what they fear, so I think the term is not really being misused, one often fears what is different from self.

It's usually "I'm not homophobic, because I'm not afraid of gay people." This line of reasoning detracts from the true meaning of the word. Compounds don't have to line up perfectly with the meanings of the words that create it. A darkroom is not just a dark room, it's a dark room, where you develop photos. Butterflies are not flies made out of butter.

Homophobia or transphobia are not being prejudiced against specific people based on fear. It can be motivated by fear, but it's not the whole definition. It applies to a range of negative emotions, including hatred, fear, prejudice, and so on.


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Because those people are the very same that said romancing Mae was gay or that bottoming is unmanly.


But those are just opinions or observations. Nothing was said against homosexuals in those instances. It just seems like "homophobe" is thrown around recklessly, like "racist" is.
 

A mindset they picked up in Hollywood? Hollywood is not exactly pro-lgbt.


What? Of course it is. That's just common knowledge.
 

I don't really like their filmography (save for the excellent first Matrix film) but I seriously doubt only dudes can do something like that. Heck I'd say Quentin Tarantino's latest films are extremy lame, specially compared to his beginnings.


That QT's recent films suck makes no difference. He's simply losing relevance. As for the Matrix, that had guns, explosions, car chases, women in tight leather, an all-powerful super man who exerts control over the world, gets the girl, martial arts and fight scenes, advanced technology, post-apocalyptic earth, etc. Every "testosterone filled straight man" box was checked.
 

Huh, not really surprised that I predicted this would happen over a week ago...  :?


Way to go Carnac, you predicted that I would be consistent.
 

Also amusing that you continue to avoid sources that would provide actual evidence  to back up your claims)


I only claimed it was a rumor. Not surprised to see you still aren't reading what people post.
 

I am not touching the rest of this, but I feel compelled to state that Sense8 is my favourite current TV show. (Can't wait for Season Two! They've been filming at the Sao Paulo Pride Parade and we've already got some great set photos.)


Never heard of it.

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It's usually "I'm not homophobic, because I'm not afraid of gay people." This line of reasoning detracts from the true meaning of the word. Compounds don't have to line up perfectly with the meanings of the words that create it. A darkroom is not just a dark room, it's a dark room, where you develop photos. Butterflies are not flies made out of butter.


Yeah but words do have clear definitions. So you can't blame people for using the actual definitions of words.

Homophobia or transphobia are not being prejudiced against specific people based on fear. It can be motivated by fear, but it's not the whole definition. It applies to a range of negative emotions, including hatred, fear, prejudice, and so on.


Having a different opinion than yours? Is that included? That seems to be the new "definition" nowadays, anything that the LGBT crowd or its supports disapprove of.

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Never heard of it.

Me neither. I hope it's nothing like Jupiter Ascending, which was a load of ****.

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Yeah but words do have clear definitions. So you can't blame people for using the actual definitions of words.
Having a different opinion than yours? Is that included? That seems to be the new "definition" nowadays, anything that the LGBT crowd or its supports disapprove of.

Yeah, it's only my opinion that homophobia is not just "fear of homosexual people." It's not as if dictionaries like Oxford, Collins, CambridgeMacmillan, Britannica, The Free DictionaryMerriam-Webster, or Dictionary.com support my claim.

 

The clear definition is that it is not just fear, but also hatred/dislike/prejudice. You are, yet again, embarrassing yourself by presenting your opinions as facts.

 

To everyone else: I know this is pointless, it's just satisfying to point out his ignorance on a public forum.


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Yeah but words do have clear definitions. So you can't blame people for using the actual definitions of words.

The problem is that they aren't using the actual definition of words. They instead to chose to only focus on the definition one half of the word (phobia to be precise) would have if it was stading alone, completly ignoring the fact that homophobia as a whole has the definition: "irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"

And since you my friend are so hung up about the proper meaning of words, you of all people should be the first to step forward and admit that you are indeed homophobic, as per definition of that word, since you have more than once stated that you have some sort aversion to homosexual acts.

 

Having a different opinion than yours?

If that opinion is that you feel morally repelled by homosexuality, then yes. That falls clearly under the "aversion to homosexuality" part of the definition and therefore is again by definition homophobic. So now that this is cleared up you  can properly refer to yourself as a homophobe in the future since we have established that the official definiton of that word fits you perfectly. Aren't you glad about this?


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(I do not think, this one want serious answers.)



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So this devolved quickly

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(I do not think, this one want serious answers.)

This one thinks only a Hanar deserves the honor of being called "this one".
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Yeah, it's only my opinion that homophobia is not just "fear of homosexual people."


I didn't argue against this. Of course it extends to more than just irrational fear. My only point was that the word has a clear definition and most people use the actual definitions of words instead of what a bunch of activists wrongly think the words mean.

The clear definition is that it is not just fear, but also hatred/dislike/prejudice. You are, yet again, embarrassing yourself by presenting your opinions as facts.


No, you misread my post.

To everyone else: I know this is pointless, it's just satisfying to point out his ignorance on a public forum.


You should probably read my posts more carefully then to understand what my stance actually is first. At this point you just look disputatious.

The problem is that they aren't using the actual definition of words. They instead to chose to only focus on the definition one half of the word (phobia to be precise) would have if it was stading alone, completly ignoring the fact that homophobia as a whole has the definition: "irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"


They are, but this is true of those on the other side as well.

And since you my friend are so hung up about the proper meaning of words, you of all people should be the first to step forward and admit that you are indeed homophobic, as per definition of that word, since you have more than once stated that you have some sort aversion to homosexual acts.


Well, "homophobic" doesn't mean to have an aversion to homosexual acts. So, I don't know why you think that should be a basis. But no, I am not homophobic because my opposition to homosexuality has rational basis in intellectual reasoning.

If that opinion is that you feel morally repelled by homosexuality, then yes. That falls clearly under the "aversion to homosexuality" part of the definition and therefore is again by definition homophobic.


That's not part of the definition.

So now that this is cleared up you  can properly refer to yourself as a homophobe in the future since we have established that the official definiton of that word fits you perfectly. Aren't you glad about this?


Except that it doesn't apply to me.

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I'm Too Sexy 4 yet ANOTHER circle jerk.

Come sing with me!

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Everyone should probably stop this. This is getting to the point of personal attacks, which is against Site Rules. I doubt the OP would appreciate this thread getting shut down. 


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Hanar Version:

This One Is Too Sexy 4 yet ANOTHER circle jerk.

Come sing with this one! 4 The Enkindlers!

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As I said, pointless. So let's have some more art

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Very well, it was a boring conversation anyways.

 

Did someone else already post this fanart? I think it's cute.

 

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