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Female Main Character can we have a realistic body this time?
#426
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 06:09
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#428
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 06:33
Ok so Fshep is a pear and that makes her apparently not meeting expectations, well what about Ariebth? She's cool
I just don't get why we're scrambling away from Bioware.
As long as she doesn't get an arrow or axe blow aimed at her chest or tries to turn her head.
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#429
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 06:36
Mass Effect is already a game where an old women like Dr Chakwas have the breasts of a young girl. Where centuries old females only grew cup sizes as they age. Where a beautiful actress describes her in-game character with her head being attached to a "disproportionate" body. Where a generation of Asari Maiden prefers dancing in nightclubs while wearing cut out spandex outfits.
And do you not notice that they dedicate a lot of resources on the appearance of most of their female characters who have the highest probability to become fuckable to their heroes. Is that not vague enough?
It's not exactly stretching the bounds of plausibility that in the future there would be better cosmetic treatments for older women(we already have breast uplifts in our time), and her face has aged pretty well too. Granted, the latter could simply be Bioware again being crap at modelling older faces like with Wynne and Meredith.
In any case, I lament Chakwas not being a waifu in ME and would gladly take a GILF like her IRL.
#430
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 06:39
I'm not trying to say you shouldn't want what you want but I can't help get the feeling this is one of those requests simply for the sake of it and not because many people actually care that much or even find appealing in there avatar
It's not like this is one of those things that stretch realism to any great deal.
The design is probably set in stone now but as a designer I would stick with generic arms for a female rather than take the risk.
#431
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 06:41
As long as she doesn't get an arrow or axe blow aimed at her chest or tries to turn her head.
It's a shame because if those spikes were just a little bit longer she could put her head down and run into her enemies to impale them on her shoulders.
#432
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 06:57
I imagine they do have women on the writing, design, and development teams. …
Okay, having women (this could be as few as 2) in the project and having them responsible for feminine portrayal are separate things.
… That really doesn't actually stop people from complaining about how female characters are portrayed. If they're too feminine people will complain it's "not realistic and just done for sex appeal" while if they're not feminine enough people will complain that they "look too much like a man"(which is exactly what people said about Cassandra in Inquisition).
and there is no "right level of feminine that people wont complain at". Somebody will always consider it one or the other.
This is sadly true as there's millions of womens, and they all probably have a slightly different view on what should and shouldn't be depicted. The best that can be done is get someone, a woman preferably, who speaks on women issues to take a brief look at what's to be expected from the game. Not that this'll happen anytime but it would keep the feminist masses from rising, the peanut-gallery(-ies) aside.
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#433
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 07:02
As long as she doesn't get an arrow or axe blow aimed at her chest or tries to turn her head.
I was referring to her body really, so I guess she's all right?
#434
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 07:08
I imagine they do have women on the writing, design, and development teams.
That really doesn't actually stop people from complaining about how female characters are portrayed. If they're too feminine people will complain it's "not realistic and just done for sex appeal" while if they're not feminine enough people will complain that they "look too much like a man"(which is exactly what people said about Cassandra in Inquisition).
and there is no "right level of feminine that people wont complain at". Somebody will always consider it one or the other.
I won't say that you don't have a point, but some realism won't be amiss either.
Warriors should look the part. Not all romance plots have to be with squad-mates, they can be with the ship's doctor, pilot, mechanic, engineer, cook,
someone at "home", etc. There we can have a place for overly feminine, or extra thin body types.
As for Cassandra, she actually was okay. The annoying thing was that she was the only interesting romance option for straight males.
Josephine was just... weird. The whole rival suitor thing was yawn worthy, it made me question why I need to fight someone for something I was barely invested in.
The repeated scene of kissing-on-one-leg just felt flat, out of place, and about as passionate as a cardboard box full of stale bread.
Me thinks that this type of romance might have been more enjoyable to a larger part of the audience if it was aimed at straight female players.
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#435
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 08:01
Okay, having women (this could be as few as 2) in the project and having them responsible for feminine portrayal are separate things.
Take the endings we love so much. There was a whole writing team! Yet only the lead and director wrote'em. Considering the crazy butt shots of Miranda, who really didn't have that great of a butt, i'm thinking female participation was minimal due to wanting to keep up the "for boys" interest. I mean, they gotta give us something since a lingerie model wasn't used for femShep.
This is sadly true as there's millions of womens, and they all probably have a slightly different view on what should and shouldn't be depicted. The best that can be done is get someone, a woman preferably, who speaks on women issues to take a brief look at what's to be expected from the game. Not that this'll happen anytime but it would keep the feminist masses from rising, the peanut-gallery(-ies) aside.
I imagine that particular group of feminists would still get up in arms, because complaining about stuff on the internet is the primary thing they do. It doesn't actually matter if it was written by a woman or not.
I'm not saying they shouldn't strive to do better, but trying to do stuff just to placate the Tumblr crowd is a pointless endeavor because it will never happen.
I won't say that you don't have a point, but some realism won't be amiss either.
Warriors should look the part. Not all romance plots have to be with squad-mates, they can be with the ship's doctor, pilot, mechanic, engineer, cook,
someone at "home", etc. There we can have a place for overly feminine, or extra thin body types.
As for Cassandra, she actually was okay. The annoying thing was that she was the only interesting romance option for straight males.
Josephine was just... weird. The whole rival suitor thing was yawn worthy, it made me question why I need to fight someone for something I was barely invested in.
The repeated scene of kissing-on-one-leg just felt flat, out of place, and about as passionate as a cardboard box full of stale bread.
Me thinks that this type of romance might have been more enjoyable to a larger part of the audience if it was aimed at straight female players.
I don't really disagree with the idea that a warrior should look the part, mostly just noting that quite a few people didn't like Cassandra for "looking like a man" simply because she wasn't hyper feminine.
I guess my point is that when it comes to body types of characters some group of people will always complaints about what you've done, so whatever they decide to go with shouldn't be done simply because people were complaining about it since that is never not going to happen.
Though I'll also agree that Cassandra was the only interesting choice for a straight male character in Inquisition.
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#436
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 09:51
Go outside.
... is Emily Blunt out there? No? I'm staying put.
#437
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 10:21
SJW's need to stop playing video games tbh
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#438
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 10:23
power armor, no need to be muscled
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#439
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 11:43
#440
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 11:44
uh huh...... yeah they do have spider silk weaving in people muscles and bones. But that doesn't mean they can't be ripped.power armor, no need to be muscled
#441
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 12:45
I won't say that you don't have a point, but some realism won't be amiss either.
Warriors should look the part. Not all romance plots have to be with squad-mates, they can be with the ship's doctor, pilot, mechanic, engineer, cook,
someone at "home", etc. There we can have a place for overly feminine, or extra thin body types.
As for Cassandra, she actually was okay. The annoying thing was that she was the only interesting romance option for straight males.
Josephine was just... weird. The whole rival suitor thing was yawn worthy, it made me question why I need to fight someone for something I was barely invested in.
The repeated scene of kissing-on-one-leg just felt flat, out of place, and about as passionate as a cardboard box full of stale bread.
Me thinks that this type of romance might have been more enjoyable to a larger part of the audience if it was aimed at straight female players.
I have problem with not companion romances it automatically have less content than companions or at least feels like it. And I agree on Josephine she is boring. And romance for straight male Inquisitor is not a problem, problem is just female companions in Inquisition small and bad, 3 female 6 male, so Cass is just best from worst. We need more female companions, and stop with this human master race, Bioware so divers but for some reason all female are humans, well one elf for smell. 3 games still no female dwarf (yes I know Sigrun) I don't even talk about female Qunari.
#442
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 12:48
power armor, no need to be muscled

#443
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 01:26
Seeing as I suggested Ruby Rose some time back in a thread about having an actual model for a preset, I feel that I should leave this here:

Apparently action films equal forced training...
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#444
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 01:27
I like how she grows 6-8" as soon as she touches the power armor.
#445
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 02:10
Jokes on you I am already outside.
Josephine was just... weird. The whole rival suitor thing was yawn worthy, it made me question why I need to fight someone for something I was barely invested in.
The repeated scene of kissing-on-one-leg just felt flat, out of place, and about as passionate as a cardboard box full of stale bread.
Me thinks that this type of romance might have been more enjoyable to a larger part of the audience if it was aimed at straight female players.
The biggest complaint about Josephine's arc was that it was left rather ambiguous whether or not the two were intimately involved. I'm not sure that would be any different if Josephine were instead Joseph, and a LI for female characters.
I just binge watched the first season of the TV series Outlander, a series primarily written for a female audience (the story revolves around the heroine's romance with a 18th Century Scotsman that looks like he stepped off the cover of a bodice ripper), and there is no shortage of sex or nudity. Then there is the whole popularity of Harlequin romance novels and the puzzling mania for 50 Shades of Gray. Women are no more sqeemish than men about sex in fiction, and there is a market for it with a female demographic.
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#446
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 02:11
The biggest complaint about Josephine's arc was that it was left rather ambiguous whether or not the two were intimately involved. I'm not sure that would be any different if Josephine were instead Joseph, and a LI for female characters.
I just binge watched the first season of the TV series Outlander, a series primarily written for a female audience (the story revolves around the heroine's romance with a 18th Century Scotsman that looks like he stepped off the cover of a bodice ripper), and there is no shortage of sex or nudity. Then there is the whole popularity of Harlequin romance novels and the puzzling mania for 50 Shades of Gray. Women are no more sqeemish than men about sex in fiction, and there is a market for it with a female demographic.
Ah yes, my mom got me into Outlander. It's pretty fun.
#447
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 02:21
Ah yes, my mom got me into Outlander. It's pretty fun.
I'm totally hooked on it now. Judging from comments I've read on the net from some of the series' female fans, I'm probably less invested in Clair's romance with Jamie, but it's a fun adventure yarn and the costumes and locations are beautiful. The Jacobite rising also makes for an interesting setting.
Someone needs to sign Tobias Menzies to do VA work for a DA game. He's brilliant.
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#448
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 02:21
Seeing as I suggested Ruby Rose some time back in a thread about having an actual model for a preset, I feel that I should leave this here:
Apparently action films equal forced training...
She still just seems so ripped to me I guess....
#449
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 02:22
I'm totally hooked on it now. Judging from comments I've read on the net from some of the series' female fans, I'm probably less invested in Clair's romance with Jamie, but it's a fun adventure yarn and the costumes and locations are beautiful. The Jacobite rising also makes for an interesting setting.
Someone needs to sign Tobias Menzies to do VA work for a DA game. He's brilliant.
My mom and I like Murtagh the best.
#450
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 02:38
The biggest complaint about Josephine's arc was that it was left rather ambiguous whether or not the two were intimately involved. I'm not sure that would be any different if Josephine were instead Joseph, and a LI for female characters.
I just binge watched the first season of the TV series Outlander, a series primarily written for a female audience (the story revolves around the heroine's romance with a 18th Century Scotsman that looks like he stepped off the cover of a bodice ripper), and there is no shortage of sex or nudity. Then there is the whole popularity of Harlequin romance novels and the puzzling mania for 50 Shades of Gray. Women are no more sqeemish than men about sex in fiction, and there is a market for it with a female demographic.
I believe you. And yes Josephine romance is just advanced friendship not romance.

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