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[LobselVith8]

The Emerald Graves and Exalted Plains weren't actually mentioned in the book, that I remember?  I also don't recall anyone in the book saying the Dales are predominantly elven, just that the largest elf population in Orlais is there, in Halamshiral. That's not the same thing. I do remember references to the Dales as country homes/hunting grounds for Orlesian nobles, which is basically what the Graves are shown to have been in-game. Human and elven refugees from those villas make sense in the circumstances.

 

"He heard that in Ferelden, and maybe even in other parts of Orlais, the elves were locked up in small sections called alienages. Here in the Dales, however, there were more elves than humans, and it was the humans who locked themselves away in the High Quarter." - The Masked Empire

 

And I think there *are* elves in Fairbanks' group/camp, aren't there? So its not human exclusive.

 

A story that focuses on Fairbanks is, in fact, an example of human exclusive content. You can't compare it to a story arc that focuses on Merrill, Briala, one of the numerous elves of the Dales, or perhaps even one of the Dalish clans. Pointing to an example of a quest that focuses on an Orlesian human and saying it's "elven content" doesn't work.

 

And Fairbanks is part of the Orlesian plot. The Graves are in Orlais and their troubles are b/c of the civil war and the templars moving in to take advantage of the chaos. 

 

Look, it's fine; you like the character. I simply see him as part of the overall problem with Inquisition; it's predominant focus on Andrastian humans, even at the expense of the non-Andrastian cultures or elves in general. I pretty much made that initial post about the Dales in case anyone else also felt interested in the prospect of more hypothetical elven content. It's why other people have, in the past, brought up things like a hypothetical 'advisor Merrill' scenario, the 'all-elven' advisors scenario with Merrill, Zevran, and Fenris advising Lavellan, and other ideas (because the elven content simply isn't there in the game). That's all.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

"He heard that in Ferelden, and maybe even in other parts of Orlais, the elves were locked up in small sections called alienages. Here in the Dales, however, there were more elves than humans, and it was the humans who locked themselves away in the High Quarter." - The Masked Empire

Yeah, and that quote is specifically made while in Halamshiral, talking about Halamshiral's city structure. And there are definitely more elves than humans in Halamshiral. And Halamshiral is the biggest population center in the Dales as a whole, so there are likely more elves than humans in the Dales. But they're concentrated in Halamshiral, not the Graves or the Plains, apparently. The Graves, especially, seem to be those hunting grounds for the nobles that get mentioned. There aren't many people there at all, and what people are there are mostly human, so the population dynamic we see among the refugees there makes sense to me. 

 

Thank you for the quote. Though, that sentence is like saying "Here, in California, the cities have steps for sidewalks." Technically this is true about a certain part of California (San Francisco), but it doesn't mean all sidewalks all over the state are concrete steps. Its an accurate sentence, but its not very specific. 

[Gervaise]

That's why I decided to make good the deficit by writing my own sequel, using the various elven characters that have previously been introduced, with a particular emphasis on Fenris, owing to his expertise on Tevinter and the Qun, rather useful if you are planning on heading north and likely to be involved with encounters with both factions.  There is no way I could see my Lavellan being content to just go back to Wycome and paddle in the sea until Solas chooses to surface and he does in fact have connections that would mean it would be almost certain he would meet Merrill, Zevran, and Fenris.

[LobselVith8]

Yeah, and that quote is specifically made while in Halamshiral, talking about Halamshiral's city structure. And there are definitely more elves than humans in Halamshiral. And Halamshiral is the biggest population center in the Dales as a whole, so there are likely more elves than humans in the Dales. But they're concentrated in Halamshiral, not the Graves or the Plains, apparently. The Graves, especially, seem to be those hunting grounds for the nobles that get mentioned. There arn't many people there at all, and what people are there are mostly human. 

 

While the sentence specifically notes 'the Dales' in comparison to nations like Ferelden and Orlais, not Halamshiral as a city.

 

Thank you for the quote. Though, that sentence is like saying "Here, in California, the cities have steps for sidewalks." Technically this is true about a certain part of California (San Francisco), but it doesn't mean all sidewalks all over the state are concrete steps. Its an accurate sentence, but its not very specific. 

 

The usage of comparing the Dales against other nations, rather than other cities, would suggest it's not simply addressing Halamshiral.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

That's why I decided to make good the deficit by writing my own sequel, using the various elven characters that have previously been introduced, with a particular emphasis on Fenris, owing to his expertise on Tevinter and the Qun, rather useful if you are planning on heading north and likely to be involved with encounters with both factions.  There is no way I could see my Lavellan being content to just go back to Wycome and paddle in the sea until Solas chooses to surface and he does in fact have connections that would mean it would be almost certain he would meet Merrill, Zevran, and Fenris.

 

I just looked up Wycome int eh wiki cus I hadn't heard the revelry capital thing you'd said before and this caught my attention:

• Wycome - located on the Amaranthine coast, near the mouth of the Minanter river. Widely regarded as the most free of the Free Marches and the revelry capital of Thedas. Notable for being the second-greatest importer of Antivan wine after Orlais despite having less than a third the population of Val Royeaux. [16]

 

Paddling in the sea? Not even that. I don't think anyone in Wycome is getting anything done, anytime soon. The town's a bunch of winos. 

[LobselVith8]

That's why I decided to make good the deficit by writing my own sequel, using the various elven characters that have previously been introduced, with a particular emphasis on Fenris, owing to his expertise on Tevinter and the Qun, rather useful if you are planning on heading north and likely to be involved with encounters with both factions.  There is no way I could see my Lavellan being content to just go back to Wycome and paddle in the sea until Solas chooses to surface and he does in fact have connections that would mean it would be almost certain he would meet Merrill, Zevran, and Fenris.

 

As Lavellan, Inquisition does feel quite limited to simply helping out humans and doing next to nothing to actually help your own people (even Origins provided us with the opportunity to try and acquire land for our people as Mahariel - which is sad because we can help the Avvar settle lands near Tevinter, but we can't do anything comparable for the Dalish).

 

What's the goal of your Lavellan?

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

While the sentence specifically notes 'the Dales' in comparison to nations like Ferelden and Orlais, not Halamshiral as a city.

 

 

The usage of comparing the Dales against other nations, rather than other cities, would suggest it's not simply addressing Halamshiral.

It also says "maybe even other parts of Orlais", in the sentence beforehand, which denotes the Dales as part of Orlais and that the comparison is being made against other parts of Orlais.

 

Also, that quote is technically saying the elves in Fereldan live in alienages, which isn't 100% accurate, either. There is no alienage in Redcliffe, for example. Only alienage I know of canonically is in Denerim. And there are elven freeholders and such in Ferelden, too, like that little girl with her parents you can meet in Lothering in DAO.

 

That whole set of sentences is a writer's flourish. its technically true, but not extremely specific. There are exceptions and holes in it. But the line sounds cool so they left it in, unspecific as it is. It does not mean there are 100% way more elves in all portions of the Dales than humans. Take the game and the books together and it shows us simply that elves outnumber humans, but the racial populations are not evenly spread out across the region so you can still find areas where humans are the majority of the local population, such as the forest with all the rich people's summer villas. The Graves' lore and inhabitants are perfectly within established boundaries.

 

As Lavellan, Inquisition does feel quite limited to simply helping out humans and doing next to nothing to actually help your own people (even Origins provided us with the opportunity to try and acquire land for our people as Mahariel - which is sad because we can help the Avvar settle lands near Tevinter, but we can't do anything comparable for the Dalish).

I consider Wycome to count as doing something for our people. Especially with Trespasser and Varric establishing trade relations with the elf led city council.   That's a sentence no one in Thedas has heard in quite some time.

[LobselVith8]

I consider Wycome to count as doign something for our people. Especially with Trespasser and Varric establishing trade relations with the elf led city council.   That's a sentence no one in Thedas has heard in quite some time.

 

Unless the developers decide to pull another Dalish Boon and recton the outcome because they don't want to do with it (let's not forget that, originally, Lanaya was supposed to have kept the peace between the Dalish of the Hinterlands and their human neighbors, and that she was even a respected figure at court). It's also very small scale in comparison to, say, helping out the kingdom of Ferelden or helping out the Orlesian Empire. You're helping out one single clan and one alienage of elves; that's a fairly small scale from what I was hoping to accomplish as a Dalish protagonist.

 

You're more than welcome to feel differently, of course. I'm simply voicing my own opinion on the matter.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

Unless the developers decide to pull another Dalish Boon and recton the outcome because they don't want to do with it (let's not forget that, originally, Lanaya was supposed to have kept the peace between the Dalish of the Hinterlands and their human neighbors, and that she was even a respected figure at court). It's also very small scale in comparison to, say, helping out the kingdom of Ferelden or helping out the Orlesian Empire. You're helping out one single clan and one alienage of elves; that's a fairly small scale from what I was hoping to accomplish as a Dalish protagonist.

 

You're more than welcome to feel differently, of course. I'm simply voicing my own opinion on the matter.

I suppose there's always the fear of retconning something out. Though they went to the trouble of having Varric voice some lines about it in a DLC apart from the base game (along with Sera talking about your clan being in Wycome, I think? I remember being touched when she said she'd had her contacts check in on them or something), so I think its less of a worry than if it was just some assumed outcome from a text blurb on the war table in the vanilla game and left at that.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

That's arguable; I'm pretty sure that Maric and Loghain saw Ferelden as an occupied nation, despite Orlais ruling it for over a century. I'm sure some could have made similar arguments to yours - that Ferelden was simply part of Orlais, and not actually occupied.

 

The Orlesians sacked Denerim in 8:44 Blessed. Maric liberated Ferelden around the start of the Dragon Age. That's a 56 year occupation. Halamshiral Fell in 2:20 Glory. That's 720 years. There's no comparison. It took place within the span of a single generation in Ferelden. Also Denerim wasn't reduced to an uninhabited husk while the Ferelden's people were uprooted and scattered across the globe.

 

I'm not really contesting a desire to see more elves in general in the Dales, just that the elves of Orlais aren't really a nation anymore.

 

 

Elves already live in the Dales. Unless you're addressing my point about finally tackling the Eluvian plot with Merrill through Briala and her Orlesian Eluvian network - then I was speculating it from a standpoint of it taking place before the Orlesian civil war, not afterward. Especially given the possible presence of Red Templars rising up in Kirkwall (although the canon on Kirkwall around this time is muddled due to the conflicting accounts).

 

Well, you said "Andrastian Elves coming into the Dales." Also you suggested Merrill would be in charge of them. Merrill was helping the alienage elves of the Free Marches. If she was in Fairbanks' place, she would have led them directly into the path of the Orlesian Civil War. That's why it makes more sense that Fairbanks was a local.

 

 

The reason that Tevinter might have better knowledge that the southern Chantry is that their history may not have been tampered with as much.   It states in World of Thedas 2 that the Emperor Drakon unified the various cults of Andraste in the south into one religion by means of conquest.    Anyone who wouldn't conform to his idea of what the Chantry should be was wiped out.    "Each clan had its own variety of the cult of Andraste, its own rituals, traditions and versions of Andraste's words.   Young Drakon unified them by the sword."    Then after Drakon we know that Divine's have cut bits out from the Chant that were no longer deemed politically expedient.   It was the southern Divine who decided that the Canticle of Silence was political propaganda by Hessarian but if anything that may be closer to the truth than anything else, considering that Corypheus has confirmed he did go to the Golden City, his name means the Conductor and the diary of his servant confirmed that they did sacrifice a huge number of slaves to get there.

 

Seriously? You think the Tevinter Imperium is the one place that records history with political and theological integrity? The same place that interprets "Magic must serve man and never rule over him" as "Magic must rule man"? The place where religion is and always has been tied far more closely to the state than in the south? The place that Dorian says would refuse to believe they didn't conquer and destroy Arlathan?

 

What possible reason could there be to think that is the place that records the true history of Andraste? Dorian even admits that the only reason they think Andraste was a mage was because it makes them feel better to imagine she was one of them. 

 

 

As for the location of the Valarian Fields, that is just a name on a map.   Who is to say that Hessarian didn't shift the location further north to where Andraste was burnt rather than where she achieved her greatest victory.    Why on earth would she return hundreds of miles down south after the battle?   As the Chant suggests, if the battle had been fought there against the might of Tevinter, the way to Minrathous was wide open.   At the very least she should have dug in for a siege.   Instead we are to believe that she upped sticks with her army and travelled all the way back to her stronghold in Nevarra.   That would have been giving the initiative back to Tevinter.   Given we are told that Maferath was anxious about her being too eager to maintain her crusade, it doesn't fit with what is claimed about her.   The Chant isn't consistent with the story about her being captured in her stronghold either.   It says that she was close enough to Minrathous to look upon the Juggernaut golems that guarded its gates and saw they might have a problem against such defences, then went apart to seek the Maker's wisdom about what to do next and that Maferath suggested going into the hills to commune by a silver pool where it was said the Voice of Heaven could be heard most clearly.    Nothing is said about heading back down south to her stronghold and travelling that distance isn't something you would do merely to talk with the Maker, particularly considering she claimed to be in constant communication with him.      So the Chant version is the one that Drakon and the first Justinia favoured but would seem to bear little relation to the truth and any clans that had a version that was closer to actual events were forced to comply. 

 

Because that's just sounds silly, and there's no evidence to suggest he ever did that. That doesn't even make sense really. Tevinter would never rewrite history to make themselves seem more vulnerable. Plus, if you think he did that, then why would Tevinter also be the place that doesn't change history to sound politically expedient?

 

World of Thedas 1 says "Together, Maferath and Andraste carved a path into the very heart of the Imperium: the capital, Minrathous. West of the city, in the Valarian Fields they won a hard-fought victory" and later "The Imperium forces caught up with Andraste as she traveled to a stronghold in Nevarra."

 

Even in World of Thedas 2 there is zero indicator that the Battle of the Valarians Fields was anywhere other than where the Valarian Fields are on the map. In fact, given the paragraph's author is very skeptical of Andraste's chances of victory, you'd think something like the Valarian Fields being in a completely different place than the Chantry remembers would have been mentioned once.

 

It also says "The closer she came to the heart of the Empire, the more she fought the enemy on its home ground."

[LobselVith8]

I suppose there's always the fear of retconning something out. Though they went to the trouble of having Varric voice some lines about it in a DLC apart from the base game (along with Sera talking about your clan being in Wycome, I think? I remember being touched when she said she'd had her contacts check in on them or something), so I think its less of a worry than if it was just some assumed outcome from a text blurb on the war table in the vanilla game and left at that.

 

If I recall correctly, Sera will offer to have the Friends of Red Jenny look for survivors if your clan was massacred near Wycome.

[Xilizhra]

The Orlesians sacked Denerim in 8:44 Blessed. Maric liberated Ferelden around the start of the Dragon Age. That's a 56 year occupation. Halamshiral Fell in 2:20 Glory. That's 720 years. There's no comparison. It took place within the span of a single generation in Ferelden. Also Denerim wasn't reduced to an uninhabited husk while the Ferelden's people were uprooted and scattered across the globe.

 

I'm not really contesting a desire to see more elves in general in the Dales, just that the elves of Orlais aren't really a nation anymore.

There's no statute of limitations on stolen land. Thankfully, it's relatively easy to give the Dales elven rulership again.

[Gervaise]

I laughed when I saw the entry on Wycome because I thought the elves had finally lucked out in the location given where the clan is able to put down roots.    I would imagine that the Chantry isn't that influential in the revelry capital of Thedas; the people clearly enjoy themselves far too much.   The complete opposite to Tantervale where apparently Charade is trying to represent the Red Jennies in a place where Chantry law is all but absolute, at least I imagine for everyone except the nobility.     Back in Wycome I would think that the Keeper could do a nice business in herbal hangover remedies and even come up with some traditional brews of her own to help the merriment along.   Which is why, after introducing Dorian to his clan (Dorian just loved Wycome) and packing him off to Tevinter, he decided he needed to do something constructive with his time.   No doubt Solas was hoping Lavellan would just settle down and enjoy himself in the time he had remaining, getting too drunk to worry about the future but that is not my lad's style. 

 

So he began with a tour of the Freemarches, encouraging an enlightened attitude to elves among the city councils and offering the elves better opportunities elsewhere if he couldn't convince the humans.   So far he has set up a school for the poor, elves and humans, in Kirkwall with the aid of Merrill; a mage school in Starkhaven under the direction of Hawke and friends and various branches of the new Emerald Knights/Fade Hunters to guard the Freemarches from demons, rogue mages, and whatever other nasties might be floating around (essentially a sort of elven Inquisition), following on from his attendance at the Arlathan where he managed to convince the majority of the Dalish not to support Fen'Harel and a smaller number to embrace the idea of working with their neighbours rather than constantly avoiding them.  With the support of the Prince of Starkhaven and the Viscount of Kirkwall things are going rather well.     

 

However, it was agreed with his principle friends and allies among the elves that things might be hotting up in Tevinter and if anyone is going to liberate the elves there, it shouldn't be either Solas or the Qun, so a small band of fighting elves is heading up the east side of Tevinter  to "help" against the Qun by ensuring that any slave uprisings join them instead.    Then its off to Arlathan Forest, which is likely hiding Qun forces so naturally needs clearing out, before seeing if anything remains underground in the area of the submerged city that might be useful against Solas.    I'm still trying to figure out what that might be.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

If I recall correctly, Sera will offer to have the Friends of Red Jenny look for survivors if your clan was massacred near Wycome.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure she said something to my Lavellan, whose clan is in Wycome, too. I'll have to go replay and check. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

There's no statute of limitations on stolen land. Thankfully, it's relatively easy to give the Dales elven rulership again.

 

I don't really want to get into tackling an issue as complicated as this, right now. I was just pointing out that "An occupied nation" such as Blessed Age Ferelden is not what the Dales are anymore. The nation and people that the Dales used to be have long since vanished.

[LobselVith8]

The Orlesians sacked Denerim in 8:44 Blessed. Maric liberated Ferelden around the start of the Dragon Age. That's a 56 year occupation. Halamshiral Fell in 2:20 Glory. That's 720 years. There's no comparison. It took place within the span of a single generation in Ferelden. Also Denerim wasn't reduced to an uninhabited husk while the Ferelden's people were uprooted and scattered across the globe.

 

I'm not really contesting a desire to see more elves in general in the Dales, just that the elves of Orlais aren't really a nation anymore.

 

There's dialogue in Origins that refers to the span of time of the Orlesian occupation in Ferelden as "over a century" which is why I used that span of time in my post. But since an occupation really has no designated period of time to define it (it's not as though it's no longer an occupation if a certain amount of time passes, after all), I'm not sure what the point of this is.

 

I made a post addressing how I would have preferred to see more elven content in the Dales. You're welcome to think differently on the matter, of course, but since this is an elven thread that's why I chose to share my ideas here.

 

Well, you said "Andrastian Elves coming into the Dales." Also you suggested Merrill would be in charge of them. Merrill was helping the alienage elves of the Free Marches. If she was in Fairbanks' place, she would have led them directly into the path of the Orlesian Civil War. That's why it makes more sense that Fairbanks was a local.

 

You might be addressing two different things. Earlier on, I wondered about the future of the Dales, since Briala can become Marquise of the Dales. I imagined elves could be heading to the Dales for new prosperity and opportunities in light of her pro-elven reforms.

 

If you're talking about my suggestion about utilizing the Eluvian arc with Merrill, that had to do with actually exploring the Orlesian Eluvian network, as well as tackling the Eluvian storyline with Merrill that never went anywhere. It's not like this is even the first time that anyone proposed the idea of seeing Merrill in the role of an arcane advisor to Briala (I've sometimes seen her tied to Celene when the subject has come up, given her own history with studying the Eluvians and the potential allure of her non-Andrastian magic).

[Steelcan]

There's no statute of limitations on stolen land. Thankfully, it's relatively easy to give the Dales elven rulership again.

Briala is by no means a Dalish elf though, so I imagine that the true Dalish elves would still regard it as stolen

[BansheeOwnage]

 

It is noticeable how Leliana, the supposed great reformer of the Chantry, is quite willing to let this situation continue by "buying" the silence of the clan on the matter and let the human noble family maintain their falsehood.   At least Cassandra is insistent the truth should be known. 

I take all of the War Table stuff with a bunch of salt when it comes to the advisors' personalities, unfortunately. They are so often wildly inconsistent in terms of approach, sometimes even completely out of character. It's like they just write three options, then assign them to advisors, instead of the other way around.

 

Considering that, and Leliana's reforms if she becomes Divine, I wouldn't put too much stock into the War Table stuff in this case. She is fairly inconsistent anyway, though, so maybe.

 

 

The magic retcon is annoying, but I assume it was to ensure that there was no obvious viable alternative to the Circle (in terms of an existing situation where mages existed freely and weren't a problem) so that the Mage-Templar conflict had more legs to stand on.

But then they go and make a DLC showcasing the Avvar, who do apparently have almost no trouble with having a bunch of mages around    Granted, they go about it differently than the Dalish, but it still brings up an alternative to the Circle.

[Xilizhra]

Briala is by no means a Dalish elf though, so I imagine that the true Dalish elves would still regard it as stolen

Every step is important.

[LobselVith8]

Every step is important.

 

True. A Dalish elf is also one of the optional Inquisitors who can help Briala, and let's not forget Clan Lavellan defending the elves of Wycome despite the dangers to their own lives.

 

Technically speaking, I also don't see why Lavellan can't help the Dalish settle either southern Dales (near Skyhold) or the unoccupied lands near Kirkwall (given his or her status as Comte of Kirkwall, courtesy of Viscount Varric) since the protagonist is wealthy enough to legally purchase the lands for them.

[In Exile]

But we know that not all Dalish clans are alike though, some of them are more militant in their beliefs and attitudes than others. Clan Lavellan is often referred to as one of the few clans who are tolerant of humans enough to actively trade and interact with them, something that some clans absolutely refuse to do.

While I doubt that belief in the Maker is necessarily common in Dalish communities, we know that City Elves can and do join the Dalish. How many of them might simply pay lip service to the Creators to better assimilate into their new community, rather than fully rejecting Andrastianism altogether? In DA2, even after several years in the Sabrae clan, Pol still slips up and invokes Andraste before catching himself.

Everything we've seen suggests absolute conversion is a requirement to being Dalish. Apart from Pol not having his tattoo, berating himself for just using a turn of phrase is borderline though crime-level. Think of the kind of society we need IRL for someone to freak out over using an innocuous cultural swear word. The Dalish have plenty of good reasons for being culturally absolutist - it's hard to see how their culture can survive if they start allowing for diversity of belief and views.

[LobselVith8]

Everything we've seen suggests absolute conversion is a requirement to being Dalish.

 

Of course, since they're a religious and cultural group. It's like adopting the Andrastian faith in order to become an Andrastian; the Dalish are about following the elven gods and their culture. They certainly aren't a pan-elven movement; I'd argue that they can't afford to be one when Andrastian culture and the religious order has deemed that their religion is a crime by law.

 

Of course, the near destruction of the Chantry, the crisis with the Breach, the presence of Lavellan, and by extension the situation at Wycome with Clan Lavellan potentially saving the lives of the humans and the elves, does provide an opportunity for one clan to settle down and live alongside their Andrastian counterparts.

 

Apart from Pol not having his tattoo, berating himself for just using a turn of phrase is borderline though crime-level. Think of the kind of society we need IRL for someone to freak out over using an innocuous cultural swear word.

 

Pol freaked out over a lot of things in that scene, probably because he just saw elves he knew for years get killed by a creature out of elven legend.

 

The Dalish have plenty of good reasons for being culturally absolutist - it's hard to see how their culture can survive if they start allowing for diversity of belief and views.

 

Well, the Dalish simply want to follow their gods and their culture, which is why they don't try to be anything else. It's a life of hardship, primarily because of the dangers posed by the Chantry, the templars, and the Andrastian kingdoms, but it's the only way they can maintain their autonomy and the freedom to follow their religion.

[veeia]

But then they go and make a DLC showcasing the Avvar, who do apparently have almost no trouble with having a bunch of mages around    Granted, they go about it differently than the Dalish, but it still brings up an alternative to the Circle.

 

Ha, true. Possibly since the MT war has been "resolved" by then, they didn't feel that need anymore and also the Avvar having that means there'd be no opportunity for Lavellan to go "hey, and the third option here is 'be more like us.'

 

Or more likely they didn't consider it and it will be retconned away or forgotten because we don't interact with them much (I imagine the latter). I don't even know who is in charge of keeping track of it all, if there even is a central person, but I imagine with the creative team changing again + new cultures with very different ideas about magic,  it's gonna be even messier in the next game.  Some mess is good, especially about history and culture, because that's realistic, but some is just headache inducing/confusing.

[Qun00]

As Lavellan, Inquisition does feel quite limited to simply helping out humans and doing next to nothing to actually help your own people (even Origins provided us with the opportunity to try and acquire land for our people as Mahariel - which is sad because we can help the Avvar settle lands near Tevinter, but we can't do anything comparable for the Dalish).

What's the goal of your Lavellan?

I'd say that putting Briala in charge has greater potential for change than offering the Dalish a piece of land that is far from being a new elven kingdom.

[LobselVith8]

I'd say that putting Briala in charge has greater potential for change than offering the Dalish a piece of land that is far from being a new elven kingdom.

 

What does that have to do with wanting to help the Dalish?