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[FKA_Servo]

I'm dubious of that entire article. They call Guy Pearce "Guy Pearson" and Shane Black said on the DVD commentary that the villain was changed from female to male because they didn't want the villain's petty motivations(being stood up by Tony Stark) and extreme vanity to come across as sexist.

 

http://io9.gizmodo.c...ilms-1776869183

 

I obviously can't speak to whatever he said on the film commentary (and it's something I will never hear). This is where I initially read about it, I think. I just took the first link I found before.

 

Star Wars was ruined when Lucas made Return of the Jedi. That movie sucks and is only remembered fondly because it's "classic" Star Wars. An army of Rambo teddy bears, a neutered Han Solo, and a recycled plot are all objectively bad things but everyone keeps their nostalgia goggles firmly affixed to their heads when talking about Star Wars.

 

A franchise can survive one bad movie (although the Star Wars franchise has had a lot more than one bad movie).

 

That being said, I'd rather see three new Lucas directed Star Wars films than a Han Solo/Boba Fett/Yoda/goddamn whatever origin story, probably featuring Chris Pratt. That's what kills it.

 

And I'd really rather see something cool, weird, and daring. I want a Star Wars film directed by Park Chan-wook.

[Killroy]

http://io9.gizmodo.c...ilms-1776869183
 
I obviously can't speak to whatever he said on the film commentary (and it's something I will never hear). This is where I initially read about it, I think. I just took the first link I found, before.

It's interesting, to say the least. But it's also kind of a headscratcher because at that point Disney was already calling the shots, as Marvel Studios was detached from Marvel Comics. Disney only bought Marvel because of Marvel Studios and their control began when the deal was signed. Some internal strife came about between 2 different heads of entertainment(whose jobs largely overlapped) but they were both on the film side and not affiliated with the comics or Marvel HQ in New York. And there weren't ever any toys of the villain anyway, so I have to assume some wires got crossed at some point.
 

A franchise can survive one bad movie (although the Star Wars franchise has had a lot more than one bad movie).
That being said, I'd rather see three new Lucas directed Star Wars films than a Han Solo/Boba Fett/Yoda/goddamn whatever origin story, probably featuring Chris Pratt. That's what kills it.
And I'd really rather see something cool, weird, and daring. I want a Star Wars film directed by Park Chan-wook.

You already got 3 new Lucas-directed Star Wars movies. They were the prequels, and they sucked. Why trade one crappy thing for another? And stop being such an insufferable hipster. Park Chan-Wook? These are children's movies. 

[Teabaggin Krogan]

Sometimes it takes a fellow geek to get it right, plus he has made video games of his own work. While not highly successful, the games are pretty fun for a fan. Note, this is if Whedon had to work with Shepard.

 

If Shepard wasn't an option, i'd probably be happy with someone like Michael Bay since ME is chock-full of explosions.

 

For something that's more moving and dramatic, i'd lean towards Shyamalan, having loved his work on Unbreakable which, by all accounts, is a comic book movie.

Those two would have to be among the worst choices ever. It's very highly either going to be an over explosive, brainless cluster puck or a convoluted mucky mess if either of these two get their hands on it. Granted, Shyamalan did make Sixth sense and The signs and as for Bay, The Rock was actually a pretty decent action flick. But with the things I've seen from them recently, I really don't have much hope if it turns out to be the case. 

 

Although with that being said, I wouldn't mind giving it a watch if a good director is making it. They really don't need to include Shepard, especially since his/her story is ambiguous to the interpretation of the player. Instead an interesting plot set within the mass effect universe would be great Imo and it'd be pretty cool to see a story with another spectre in action perhaps even focusing on a turian as a main character or an episode from the contact wars etc. 

 

 

They didn't even make toys of the villain from Iron Man 3 so I'm pretty sure you heard wrong. And you're also in a very small minority, not liking the Marvel movies. 

Meh, I'm not a big fan of the recent marvel movies either, especially the new ones like civil war which everyone seems to praising. Just because a lot of people are riding the hype train doesn't mean that marvel can't make crappy movies although their previous successes allow for a very high margin of error. 

[Killroy]

Meh, I'm not a big fan of the recent marvel movies either, especially the new ones like civil war which everyone seems to praising. Just because a lot of people are riding the hype train doesn't mean that marvel can't make crappy movies although their previous successes allow for a very high margin of error.

You are in a small minority. Deal with it.

[FKA_Servo]

You already got 3 new Lucas-directed Star Wars movies. They were the prequels, and they sucked. Why trade one crappy thing for another? And stop being such an insufferable hipster. Park Chan-Wook? These are children's movies. 

 

They were children's movies when I was a child nearly three decades ago. Nothing wrong with wishing at least some of them would grow up, too. And that film would be gloriously weird.

 

And yeah, the prequels sucked. But that's almost preferable to soulless, which is where we're heading. Force Awakens was pretty soulless. The MCU, which is likely the best example we're gonna see of how Disney will approach Star Wars, is overwhelmingly soulless.

[Guanxii]

The original Star Wars movies were not kid movies despite what George Lucas may claim. They're clearly not movies for five year olds which parents enjoy it's completely the opposite. Simple stories told so well that even and especially kids enjoy them. He misinterpreted the appeal of the originals: Pandering directly to kids is what ruined the prequels.

[Killroy]

They were children's movies when I was a child nearly three decades ago. Nothing wrong with wishing at least some of them would grow up, too. And that film would be gloriously weird.

 

And yeah, the prequels sucked. But that's almost preferable to soulless, which is where we're heading. Force Awakens was pretty soulless. The MCU, which is likely the best example we're gonna see of how Disney will approach Star Wars, is overwhelmingly soulless.

 

And stop being such an insufferable hipster.

[FKA_Servo]

And stop being such an insufferable hipster.

 

I am serene.

[Killroy]

The original Star Wars movies were not kid movies despite what George Lucas may claim. They're clearly not movies for five year olds which parents enjoy it's completely the opposite. Simple stories told so well that even and especially kids enjoy them. He misinterpreted the appeal of the originals: Pandering directly to kids is what ruined the prequels.

Of course they're children's movies. They're just knights on a quest. There's nothing mature or meaningful about Star Wars.

[Killroy]

I am serene.

 

Until a Starbucks opens on your block, you mean.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

You are in a small minority. Deal with it.

 

There is nothing to deal with, I know I am in the minority and that does't come into play on my review of the movie whereas it seems to be the whole point of your argument. Clearly Gangam style is one of the best songs ever by that logic. 

[Killroy]

There is nothing to deal with, I know I am in the minority and that does't come into play on my review of the movie whereas it seems to be the whole point of your argument. Clearly Gangam style is one of the best songs ever by that logic. 

 

Only if views=endorsements. They don't. 

[FKA_Servo]

Until a Starbucks opens on your block, you mean.

 

I'm not a hipster about everything.

 

And I prefer Dunkin' Donuts. I'm not sure that's cooler - or more "authentic" - by anyone's estimation. I enjoy it sincerely, and not ironically.

[Jedi Comedian]

Gangam style is one of the best songs ever by that logic.

LOL

[Teabaggin Krogan]

Only if views=endorsements. They don't. 

Oh so you mean everyone who sees the movie logs on to rotten tomatoes and are movie critics in their spare time.. I must've missed that memo.

[Killroy]

Oh so you mean every one who sees the movie logs on to rotten tomatoes and are movie critics in their spare time.. I must've missed that memo.

 

That is the dumbest possible argument you can make. 

[Guanxii]

Of course they're children's movies. They're just knights on a quest. There's nothing mature or meaningful about Star Wars.

 

There's nothing mature or meaningful about most movies made for adults. I suppose the story is eternal because it's construction and archetypes are the simply the best implementation of the monomyth to date. Why is it that other simple knights quest stories have not dominated popular culture to the same extent and don't hold the same appeal with adult audiences? There's something about it which is unquantifiable. Writing a movie which appeals to adults and children anywhere close to Star Wars is probably the greatest literary feat there is.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

That is the dumbest possible argument you can make. 

That was sarcasm fam, in case you missed it. And I'm just following the road you made.

[Killroy]

There's nothing mature or meaningful about most movies made for adults.

 
 

I suppose the story is eternal because it's construction and archetypes are the simply the best implementation of the monomyth to date which is an approximation of every story ever told.

Star Wars is the best implementation of the hero's quest? Really? 

[Killroy]

That was sarcasm fam, in case you missed it. And I'm just following the road you made.

 

[JPVNG]

It would work...Shepard story and Mass effect it´s not a simple game...its a marvellous story...its a book.

I ll never forget this game.

Its about honor, courage, friendship, love, loyalty, respect for the others. Sacrifice.

[FKA_Servo]

There's nothing mature or meaningful about most movies made for adults. I suppose the story is eternal because it's construction and archetypes are the simply the best implementation of the monomyth to date. Why is it that other simple knights quest stories have not dominated popular culture to the same extent and don't hold the same appeal with adult audiences? There's something about it which is unquantifiable.

 

 The films, even at their best, weren't that special. I think the potential of the setting has been best realized in the KoTOR games (up to and including some of the campaigns in TOR).

 

I think the biggest reason Star Wars has endured is because it has terrific style, terrific art, and special effects that managed to look good twenty or thirty years after the fact, in some cases. It's got a handle on "cool" in a way that very few things manage.

[Seraphim24]

I was never really a Star Wars fan.... 

[Guanxii]

 The films, even at their best, were nothing special. I think Star Wars potential has been best realized in the KoTOR games (up to and including some of the campaigns in TOR).

 

I think the reason Star Wars has endured is because it has terrific style, terrific art, and special effects that managed to look good twenty or thirty years after the fact, in some cases. It's got a handle on "cool" in a way that very few things manage.

 

Jedi aside I think it goes beyond the editing, cinematography and special effects, pacing, score, casting, the memorable dialog, the world building and the way it can convey narrative without words. There really hasn't been anything like it before or after... I have no idea why these characters are so engrained in popular culture, personally. I'm not a particularly huge fan I'm just amazed at the effect it has on people and on popular culture. It will still be generating Disney billions long after we're all dead.

 

If LionsGate are still messing about with the license years down the line I wouldn't be apposed to giving Disney the rights to Mass Effect; what's the worst that could happen?

[Ascari]

If a trailer for a Mass Effect movie comes out, 90% chance it will be a bad choice of music.