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[KamuiStorm]

Specifically betwixt the interspecies ark inhabitants, mankind even with the end of the trilogy were still a relatively new galactic superpower. One that became an instrumental key figure by ending a war that was never won and continued for aeons. While yes mankind had aid from varying council & non council species it was mankind that became the tip of what I like to refer to as "The spear of shepard"(get it? Spear of destiny? Hurr, that wasn't funny? Ok..). Thus mankind on that day regardless if Shepard is canonically alive became a force that couldn't be ignored. A threat.

Ergo, I believe the interspecies relations onboard the ark will be tense once stress levels from departure are aligned and steady. The elder races will all want to seize an opportunity to reform the citadel council if not power for themselves and reign singlehandedly. I am presuming that each race will be playing behind the scenes for the opportunity to end mankind and then seize control once the larger threat is out of the picture. Thoughts?

[yolobastien6412]

This kind of reminds me of ME1, but only when Sarren wanted to stop Anderson from becoming a Spectre.

This could be interesting, but then the non-human squadmates would have to disagree with these schemes, or betray Ryder at a given story point.

This might lead the Humans to disband from the MW forces, and go solo?

[Shinobu]

I think it's just as likely that there is a schism independent of species lines, where some humans and aliens break off to form their own outlaw band. Whether it's us or the antagonist, I don't know. If it happens, I'd bet on it being the antagonist, though, since Shepard already did the "merry band of outlaws" thing in ME2.

[MyDamnAlterEgo]

Khm.... AFAIK there's no joint Milky Way forces, all races have their own Arks, no?

[Ahriman]

Khm.... AFAIK there's no joint Milky Way forces, all races have their own Arks, no?

No. The Ark Is One. You saw it in the trailer.

There are different colony ships however, according to leak.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Not to mention the krogan smell inside it.

[ZipZap2000]

Not to mention the krogan smell inside it.

You know how when you break your leg and they put it in a plaster cast and it gets that smell on the inside of it. That's what the Quarians and the Volus smell like.

Your LI was a suit rat.

*Breaks your leg*

[MyDamnAlterEgo]

No. The Ark Is One. You saw it in the trailer.

There are different colony ships however, according to leak.

 

The ship we saw in the trailer ("Tempest"?) is a human-only ship AFAIK. Other races have their own ones.

[Ahriman]

The ship we saw in the trailer ("Tempest"?) is a human-only ship AFAIK. Other races have their own ones.

Dude, "Tempest" is PC's personal vessel. You've read all the leaks wrong.

[goishen]

None of us know.

But, I've read the leaks that the Tempest is the ark. No reason not to.

[Monk]

This kind of reminds me of ME1, but only when Sarren wanted to stop Anderson from becoming a Spectre.

This could be interesting, but then the non-human squadmates would have to disagree with these schemes, or betray Ryder at a given story point.

This might lead the Humans to disband from the MW forces, and go solo?

 

If Ryder fails to bring everyone together? i can see humanity having to go solo, though whose hands the Ark will still be in is a mystery.

 

 

I think it's just as likely that there is a schism independent of species lines, where some humans and aliens break off to form their own outlaw band. Whether it's us or the antagonist, I don't know. If it happens, I'd bet on it being the antagonist, though, since Shepard already did the "merry band of outlaws" thing in ME2.

 

meh. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

One merry new band, coming up! (though, maybe keep the loyalty missions down, maybe?)

 

 

None of us know.

But, I've read the leaks that the Tempest is the ark. No reason not to.

 

Argh, now i'm just confused. Fuggit! The two are separate spacecraft. Nah-nah-can't-read-anyone's-posts-nah-nah-naaaah.

[Ahriman]

None of us know.

But, I've read the leaks that the Tempest is the ark. 

Hmm, care to point me these leaks?

[Sartoz]

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A schism story arc implies that participating Council races are housed in one ship with a leadership made up of a Human, Salarian, Asari and Turian.  This is a recipe marked for disaster. Besides, ARK colonists are humans, if we go by the "leaked" info. This speculation is confirmed by the Krogan loyalty mission, whereby the Krogan colony ship has to be rescued.  It makes sense, therefore, that participating Council races would provide their own ships.

 

This solution is best for everyone. It provides for a cohesive fleet to get to Andromeda but once there, each species can take their colony ships down their own path and be independent from the other races.  Loyalty missions is a means to get (speculating here) an Asari, Salarian and Turian on top of the Krogan in your squad.

 

Remember, Bio announced it is a human centric story.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ZipZap2000]

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A schism story arc implies that participating Council races are housed in one ship with a leadership made up of a Human, Salarian, Asari and Turian. This is a recipe marked for disaster. Besides, ARK colonists are humans, if we go by the "leaked" info. This speculation is confirmed by the Krogan loyalty mission, whereby the Krogan colony ship has to be rescued. It makes sense, therefore, that participating Council races would provide their own ships.

This solution is best for everyone. It provides for a cohesive fleet to get to Andromeda but once there, each species can take their colony ships down their own path and be independent from the other races. Loyalty missions is a means to get (speculating here) an Asari, Salarian and Turian on top of the Krogan in your squad.

Remember, Bio announced it is a human centric story.

Might this be the massive crashed ship with the mako speeding toward it, that we saw in concept art?

Who knows....

[yolobastien6412]

Might this be the massive crashed ship with the mako speeding toward it, that we saw in concept art?

Who knows....

I always imagined Krogan ships as plastered and soldered pieces of metal fitted with huge canons, but moreso than Quarian ships. Feel the apocalypse!

[goishen]

Hmm, care to point me these leaks?

 

 

Point you to what?  A link that none of us have?  I'm stating that it's all in how you read the leaks.  Some people call the Tempest the ark, some people call it the player character's personal ship. 

[ZipZap2000]

Some people call the Tempest the ark, some people call it the player character's personal ship.

Some say it was human word describing a violent windy storm. More commonly used when speaking about catastrophic rain, hail, or snow storms.


Or to be more on topic, a great wind.

[Ahriman]

Point you to what?  A link that none of us have?  I'm stating that it's all in how you read the leaks.  Some people call the Tempest the ark, some people call it the player character's personal ship. 

Huh? I can give you the link to poll leak on reddit, I was referring to. Which one did you have in mind?

[yolobastien6412]

Some say it was human word describing a violent windy storm. More commonly used when speaking about catastrophic rain, hail, or snow storms.


Or to be more on topic, a great wind.

A great BIOTIC WIND!

[goishen]

Huh? I can give you the link to poll leak on reddit, I was referring to. Which one did you have in mind?

 

 

Now you're simply splitting hairs that aren't there.   Yes, I'm referring to the same leak that you are.  Only you've read it that the Tempest is the PC's personal ship.  I've read it as it's the ark.  None of us really knows for sure.  It may be made out of the ark once we land in Andromeda.  Again, nobody really knows.

[ZipZap2000]

A great BIOTIC WIND

 

We can only hope to one day smell his greatness.

 

 

*Blesses you with ryncol*

 

 

So he should go.

[Ahriman]

Now you're simply splitting hairs that aren't there.   Yes, I'm referring to the same leak that you are.  Only you've read it that the Tempest is the PC's personal ship.  I've read it as it's the ark.  None of us really knows for sure.  It may be made out of the ark once we land in Andromeda.  Again, nobody really knows.

Ah, so you suggest that PC "pilots... across the 100s of solar systems" and "lands on a mineral rich planet, then jumps into his Mako" the thing from the trailer? I've got your point.

[KamuiStorm]

Ladies, ladies quell thy frustrations there is enough discussion to go around -sensually rubs nipple-

[Gothfather]

After the destruction of Sovereign the council has pretty much accepted humanity as deserving of a seat. The "geth" attack would have succeeded without human intervention regardless of a paragon or renegade ending. I think it is far more likely to have conflict between the council races and the non council races then this idea that the council races resent humans and will use this as an opportunity to push humans off the council. 

 

The older non-council races have more to be resentful of humanity for than those races in positions of power. The council is already use to races coming to their aid gaining a seat so humans doing it isn't unprecedented. The humans got a seat in the exact same way the Turians got one by saving the council against an aggressor. With the humans it was the "geth" and the Turians it was the krogan. This type of power sharing in part and parcel to how teh council races operate so nothing about this idea that they should be resentful of humans makes any sense.

 

Now the non-council races would likely be resentful but not specifically at humans but rather IF and this is a big IF the council races try to maintain the balance of power as it is within citadel space. This is a fresh start and there is little reason to maintain the same hierarchy of power when all colonists are in the same position. This power struggle again doesn't make sense if it is focused upon humans specifically but rather makes sense only if it is broadly targets all council seat races. This assumes that the colony on Andromeda is an exact copy of citadel space in terms of power sharing and power structure and there is little to no evidence to support this would be the case. And it makes little sense for things to be like this as well colonial governments are almost always different from their home country because the colony has different needs and thus the power structures almost always are structured more in a more practical way vs a traditional way. Which has always been one of the lures to colonial life.

[KamuiStorm]

Well, oh yeah? I.. uh.. You're a poopy head. So, ha!

Kamui: 1 gothfather: 0


I do like the idea of a non council species becoming angry at council species for attempting to retain the governing style as if still in citadel space. You do bring up flaws in my schism, oh yes, however I still think a schism-ish like story could do well. Perhaps not a full blown "wat? Hoomans u dye! Grah" but I do feel like one will occur it's almost inevitable. Andromeda is the wild west and I am positive(don't quote me) that council/non-council species will be unable to work together to the fullest extent. I mean sure what you said make sense but so does the fact that citadel space was an old well oiled machine with years if not decades+ of trail & errors to make it what it was. In the wild west, andromeda, no well oiled machine exist and no governing body save for what is on the ark exist either. At first things will be tense but eventually everyone will realize "hey, this isn't citadel space.. why am I or my species not stepping up? No real authority has been established. This is our time!"

With no established rule, no policing force, it will be a simple matter of who & when. All it takes is one stone to loosen and eventually the whole wall will fall.