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I know it's a matter of luck but I spent tons of credits and still didn't get the Cerberus harrier yet,(one of the three weapons that haven't unlocked yet) and the ultra packs now gives me level 4 ammo only and rarely upgrading the other ultra rare weapons. Is there a way to get around that or just keep hoping for the best to come?

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Nope, there's no super-secret technique you could use to unlock weapons faster. Unless you're on PC...



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Nope, there's no super-secret technique you could use to unlock weapons faster. Unless you're on PC...


I'm playing on pc, what is the deal here?

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I'm playing on pc, what is the deal here?

You can use cheat engines to give you as many credits as you want, or even unlock weapons directly. I'm on consoles so I'm not familiar with the exact procedures but I'm sure you could find here someone who could help you, if you're still interested. 



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I'm playing on pc, what is the deal here?


Credit hacking, but that's a pathetic thing to do and only real scrubs need to do it.
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Credit hacking, but that's a pathetic thing to do and only real scrubs need to do it.

Why ? It's not like there was a prize money for the player who complete their manifest the first.



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The credit isn't the issue here. I'm playing gold/platinum without difficult but the packs won't unlock a thing. I spent the last 5 million credits and all I got is upgrading two weapons one level only and the rest was consumables. That's the problem.

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when its you versus the RNG store and you think everything is going nice and smooth............1238408718_revolving-door-fail.gif

                                                                                                                                                                       then cryo ammo 4 happens...........

 

 

 

just keep at it....you will hit a dry spell when it comes to getting ultra rares..... we all have gone / or are going thru it.... it's just how it works. keep buying premium spectre packs ...they give you the best shot at getting UR's.


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The credit isn't the issue here. I'm playing gold/platinum without difficult but the packs won't unlock a thing. I spent the last 5 million credits and all I got is upgrading two weapons one level only and the rest was consumables. That's the problem.

Well, more credits always equal more packs bought. The ultra-rare weapons drop rate is very low (7,5%), so unlocking only 2 levels with 5 millions is indeed unlucky but not so surprising.


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Credit hacking, but that's a pathetic thing to do and only real scrubs need to do it.

Or the scrub in question sucks so much at soloing that he couldn't be bothered to play regular games in order to finance his solo failures. :blush:



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This is part of the "experience." You will spend millions of credits without a single UR. Then when you do unlock a UR, it'll be levels on a weapon you don't even like. This is supposed to be fun and not at all just an encouragement for either a.) micro-transactions or b.) for you to have no real life and instead spend thousands of hours playing this game. 

 

This is definitely good design and progression in an online MP game and I hope Bioware continues to bring us the same level of quality in their future releases. 

 

On the bright side OP you've got Turians already, and they're the best weapons in the game, so don't worry about it. 


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OP if you need help with space magic, you can ask anyone on this forum and they'll help happily. Nobody cares if you do it, not Bioware, nor your any reasonable BSNer. We all understand your frustration. I maxed my PS3 manifest legit and then hacked my PC manifest because ain't nobody got another 1000 hours to grind.

 

Credit hacking, but that's a pathetic thing to do and only real scrubs need to do it.

The only pathetic thing is the store's design. Forcing people to play for 1000 hours to unlock everything and encouraging microtansactions in a full prized game. When I started soloing plat on PS3 I had to wait for 200 more hours because I wanted to have my CSMG maxed out before really getting into soloing (and don't tell me that you don't need a maxed weapon to do plat solos. I wanted to be at full potential). The RNG unlock system is rewarding until you max out your rares, but then there is no guarateed UR pack, which makes the entire proccess frustating. I've talked with a lot of people about about the store and not a single one of them enjoyed the grind for URs.

 

Luckily on PC you can bypass this. I was opposed to it at first, then I realised that limiting myself to useless guns wasn't fun, so I used some space magic. Just like my friends on PS3 that got the game on PC and most PC BSNers.

 

I'm sure you are familiar what happens when you go on a soloing rampage and run out of cyclo 4, SG3, PA4, Warp4, Inc4. When I was soloing on PC I couldn't have been more grateful for the Cheat engine. I could just keep on soloing without worrying about the damn consumables like on PS3.

 

Calling peple pathetic because of not wanting to deal with such frustration coming from bad game design is unfair to say the least.


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OP if you need help with space magic, you can ask anyone on this forum and they'll help happily. Nobody cares if you do it, not Bioware, nor your any reasonable BSNer. We all understand your frustration. I maxed my PS3 manifest legit and then hacked my PC manifest because ain't nobody got another 1000 hours to grind.
 
The only pathetic thing is the store's design. Forcing people to play for 1000 hours to unlock everything and encouraging microtansactions in a full prized game. When I started soloing plat on PS3 I had to wait for 200 more hours because I wanted to have my CSMG maxed out before really getting into soloing (and don't tell me that you don't need a maxed weapon to do plat solos. I wanted to be at full potential). The RNG unlock system is rewarding until you max out your rares, but then there is no guarateed UR pack, which makes the entire proccess frustating. I've talked with a lot of people about about the store and not a single one of them enjoyed the grind for URs.
 
Luckily on PC you can bypass this. I was opposed to it at first, then I realised that limiting myself to useless guns wasn't fun, so I used some space magic. Just like my friends on PS3 that got the game on PC and most PC BSNers.
 
I'm sure you are familiar what happens when you go on a soloing rampage and run out of cyclo 4, SG3, PA4, Warp4, Inc4. When I was soloing on PC I couldn't have been more grateful for the Cheat engine. I could just keep on soloing without worrying about the damn consumables like on PS3.
 
Calling peple pathetic because of not wanting to deal with such frustration coming from bad game design is unfair to say the least.


To be fair I called it "a pathetic thing to do", which is a reference to the action taken and not a person as such.

It's the way the game is designed, maybe I'm just old fashioned but this whole "I'm special so I should just get everything I want right now because I'm to special to work hard for what I want" is something I strongly dislike. Results come from hard work and ambition, not by making short cuts where it's convinient.
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To be fair I called it "a pathetic thing to do", which is a reference to the action taken and not a person as such.

It's the way the game is designed, maybe I'm just old fashioned but this whole "I'm special so I should just get everything I want right now because I'm to special to work hard for what I want" is something I strongly dislike. Results come from hard work and ambition, not by making short cuts where it's convinient.

I play video games for fun, not to "work hard" for a virtual item that can only be acquired by methods similar to gambling. Also RNG grinding / luck isn't hard work in my opinion. A recent example from my gaming experience: getting the Obsidian Greatsword in Dark Souls is hard work, and hacking that item into your inventory would be scrubby. Removing the RNG in ME3, be it objective modding or manifest hacking, isn't.


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I had "help" with my PC manifest.  :wizard:

 

But I bought all packs legit, and play 100% legit. The only thing I had help with was my credits. And I can deny all knowledge of any wrongdoing because all I did was get invited to a game, technically. :P

 

My Lancer I on the PS3 however is very lonely.


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I play video games for fun, not to "work hard" for a virtual item that can only be acquired by methods similar to gambling. Also RNG grinding / luck isn't hard work in my opinion. A recent example from my gaming experience: getting the Obsidian Greatsword in Dark Souls is hard work, and hacking that item into your inventory would be scrubby. Removing the RNG in ME3, be it objective modding or manifest hacking, isn't.

 

Yes the derp store was the main reason I kept losing my interest in ME and went to try other games. Granted I only have 400 hours or so but I'm pretty pissed that the rng gods haven't seen fit to drop me a black widow, prothean particle, csmg, talon or the javelin. Maybe I'm just whining when it takes most people 1000 hours to get near maxing manifests but I just find it bad and frustrating game design!

 

Btw kalameet can go shove a sunlight spear up his bum. 


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I know it's a matter of luck but I spent tons of credits and still didn't get the Cerberus harrier yet,(one of the three weapons that haven't unlocked yet) and the ultra packs now gives me level 4 ammo only and rarely upgrading the other ultra rare weapons. Is there a way to get around that or just keep hoping for the best to come?

 

I know how you feel - The Harrier was the last UR I unlocked, and it took me about 600hrs of playing. Sorry if that upsets you. But truth be told, I got annoyed by the Harrier because you have to keep going to ammo boxes all the time as it chews through ammo like a Javelin without the clip mod! But I still used it for a tonne of games after I got it. Don't get me wrong, its a great gun, and keep at it, with only three unlocks left you're close.

 

I also think from my own purchasing that Arsenal Packs have better drop rate for URs than PSPs. And also, try save up to 4-5 millions credits before doing a buying spree. I found that this has some funny effect I can't explain. The first 3.5 million credits can give you very little and then you hit 3 URs in a row. ???



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I play video games for fun

 

This kind of attitude just pisses me off. Stop this right now, it is not okay to have fun while playing Video Games. 


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Well OP, I was about 500 hours in and my average UR was level 4.5 before I rolled a Harrier, so i hear ya.

 

By that time I already had a maxed Black Widow (which i never use), a maxed Scorpion (which I never use) and a maxed CSMG (which I used a ridiculous amount of)

 

Grind baby! As eluded to earlier, once your rares are maxed out each rare card will have a %7.5 chance of dropping a random UR

 

One way to try and get the harrier specifically would be to uninstall all the later expansions, thus removing those URs from the pool that can drop when you roll your packs



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I play video games for fun, not to "work hard" for a virtual item that can only be acquired by methods similar to gambling. Also RNG grinding / luck isn't hard work in my opinion. A recent example from my gaming experience: getting the Obsidian Greatsword in Dark Souls is hard work, and hacking that item into your inventory would be scrubby. Removing the RNG in ME3, be it objective modding or manifest hacking, isn't.


For some people like myself working hard and having fun can be the same thing - I enjoy what I have personally accomplished in this game by taking no short cuts, hacking the game code etc etc.

I get it that some people don't like the long grind and the effort needed - I used to play WoW which involved way more grinding and effort for reaching the top level than this game does so the ME3 store really isn't that bad for me.
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I won't let RNGesus slow me down, that's why I use haxing. I won't tell if you won't.



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For some people like myself working hard and having fun can be the same thing - I enjoy what I have personally accomplished in this game by taking no short cuts, hacking the game code etc etc.

I get it that some people don't like the long grind and the effort needed - I used to play WoW which involved way more grinding and effort for reaching the top level than this game does so the ME3 store really isn't that bad for me.

In this case it's not really working hard, but rather working for a long time. Maxing your manifest doesn't demonstrate any skill, but rather that you had enough time to play. In a PvP game, or if hacking your manifest would reduce the fun other players have, then I could agree with you Patrick, but it's not what we have here, it's not a win-lose situation. So there's really nothing "pathetic" with credit hacking for me.   



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In this case it's not really working hard, but rather working for a long time. Maxing your manifest doesn't demonstrate any skill, but rather that you had enough time to play. In a PvP game, or if hacking your manifest would reduce the fun other players have, then I could agree with you Patrick, but it's not what we have here, it's not a win-lose situation. So there's really nothing "pathetic" with credit hacking for me.


They used to ban people doing it, so it's obviously not something that was intended for the game.

And hacked manifests have ruined the fun for me, I have ended up in several games with newer player using maxed manifest, they always end up being less than uselss as they can't handle the higher difficulties.
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They used to ban people doing it, so it's obviously not something that was intended for the game.

And hacked manifests have ruined the fun for me, I have ended up in several games with newer player using maxed manifest, they always end up being less than uselss as they can't handle the higher difficulties.

Of course they did ! Companies rarely like situations where a potential source of revenue is endangered.

 

As for your games, then it would have been even worse with inferior weapons. 


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From what I've seen of noobs with max manifest,it  doesn't matter. They use LHA instead of RHA, stand out in the open instead of soft cover, dont know how to rage gel or use their rockets in bad situations or know enemy spawns, they still love to camp(or try to) etc etc

 

The only thing it changes is their score, instead of 20-30k a Gold match maybe they get 60-80k.