Because buildings have never been reporpused across history, expecially important ones.
Also, it was built by dwarves and rebuilt by the freed slaves after the uprising.
That is your opinion. The Kirkwallers believed it to be a holy builidng, a cultural hallmark of their city and something they could pride and joy in.
Do you think militant atheists have the right to blow up Notre Dame?
You already came out of Kirkwall again. Please, stay in Thedas!
Don't be willfully dense. Not all rebellions are created equal.
You do realize you're corroborating what I am saying, right?
Sometimes, you have to read between the lines, especially when dealing with Chantry propaganda. Elthina supports a coup that benefits basically no one but herself, and makes her look like a higher authority than the viscount, harbors a claimant to a neighboring city's throne, and that city's Circle conveniently burns down. It'll probably need a new, larger, Templar garrison soon, yeah? She promotes Petrice and does nothing to stop her from whipping Kirwall into an anti-Qunari frenzy, which seems like a good way to rid herself of some political and military rivals in the city, and gives her deniability if it fails. She does nothing to stop Meredith because she doesn't care what Meredith does, Meredith is her dog until she goes feral.
If anything, Elthina seems to be a tyrant with expansionist aims, and probably wants the Chantry to rule the Free Marches outright (under her, of course).
Elthina was behind the burning of Starkhaven's Circle; never mind Decimus; because she has Sebastian; never mind that she encouraged him to leave if he wanted to and discouraged him from seeking vengeance for his family's murder; because Starkhaven will need a bigger Templar garrison; never mind how Starkhaven has a Grand Cleric and will need fewer Templars if there are fewer mages.
I mean...do I even need to say anything else? This is not "reading between the lines", it's ridiculous.
Everything, in your mind, is some darstadly plot by the Chantry somehow. Do you know who you sound like right now?
Meredith when she was at her worst.
"Orsino had nothing to do with this plot? That only means he hid his tracks exceedingly well."
"Elthina encouraged Sebastian to follow his own path? That must have figured into her plan somehow."
You do realize you're corroborating what I am saying, right?
I'm really not sure how you don't get this. Imagine there is a dictatorship in the middle of a civil war against a group of fascist hardliners who want to make things worse, and a group of democratic freedom fighters. Supporting rebellion against the dictatorship by endorsing the freedom fighters does not mean I must also support the fascists.
I mean...do I even need to say anything else? This is not "reading between the lines", it's ridiculous.
Everything, in your mind, is some darstadly plot by the Chantry somehow. Do you know who you sound like right now?
Of course it is. The Chantry, from the beginning, has done nothing but attempt to increase its own power at the expense of all else. Why should I trust anything one of its priests say or do?
Of course it is.
First time I've seen someone respond to "you're paranoid" with "Yes, I am".
Anders wasn't oppressed. He was living freely; hell, he may have been shacking up with the Champion. He engineered that explosion specifically to engineer a massacre of his actually mistreated brethren.No. But the oppressed have the right to fight their oppressors, whatever form they take, and wherever they cower.
Sometimes, you have to read between the lines, especially when dealing with Chantry propaganda. Elthina supports a coup that benefits basically no one but herself, and makes her look like a higher authority than the viscount, harbors a claimant to a neighboring city's throne, and that city's Circle conveniently burns down. It'll probably need a new, larger, Templar garrison soon, yeah? She promotes Petrice and does nothing to stop her from whipping Kirwall into an anti-Qunari frenzy, which seems like a good way to rid herself of some political and military rivals in the city, and gives her deniability if it fails. She does nothing to stop Meredith because she doesn't care what Meredith does, Meredith is her dog until she goes feral.
If anything, Elthina seems to be a tyrant with expansionist aims, and probably wants the Chantry to rule the Free Marches outright (under her, of course).
Anders wasn't oppressed. He was living freely; hell, he may have been shacking up with the Champion. He engineered that explosion specifically to engineer a massacre of his actually mistreated brethren.
This is some real "jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams" **** up in here.
For many years he was opressed, as a child lived in a Circle. Someone tolerate bad when closed, and he constantly scared from the tranquility.
For many years he was opressed, as a child lived in a Circle. Someone tolerate bad when closed, and he constantly scared from the tranquility.
He wasn't oppressed only punished for constantly breaking rules as he should be.Truth is Templars were way too soft when it comes to dealing with him, they should tranquil him after his first escape and problem would be solved.
I think that the most important thing to remember is that everyone can have their own worldstate that's close to ideal. And the only people left unhappy by this state of affairs are those whose worldview was dependent on the alleged inability of Thedas to sustain a worldstate that they didn't play.
He wasn't oppressed only punished for constantly breaking rules as he should be.Truth is Templars were way too soft when it comes to dealing with him, they should tranquil him after his first escape and problem would be solved.
It is natural that a person escapes or attempts to escape, if innocently closed. It's not a crime, this is an obvious reaction. The detention the oppression.
I think that the most important thing to remember is that everyone can have their own worldstate that's close to ideal. And the only people left unhappy by this state of affairs are those whose worldview was dependent on the alleged inability of Thedas to sustain a worldstate that they didn't play.
That's debatable. Was Anders ever beaten? Raped? He did spent a lengthy period in isolation for repeated escape attempts; a less lenient Circle would have executed him. So his life in the Circle was pretty good by most standards; he simply disliked confinement.For many years he was opressed, as a child lived in a Circle.
Pretty much. My world state with divine Leliana and peacekeeper inquisition does everything I wanted for mages ( apart from Viv messing stuff up...).
It's not so bad, as long as it stays at the level of healthy competition.
So elthina doing nothing about death squads killing people in broad daylight is ok? Stuff like that is why I dislike her.
Said, death squads were killing criminals that were aiding mages, so fine by me.
I think that the most important thing to remember is that everyone can have their own worldstate that's close to ideal. And the only people left unhappy by this state of affairs are those whose worldview was dependent on the alleged inability of Thedas to sustain a worldstate that they didn't play.
Aside that is horrible story telling? World and setting shouldn't adapt to player only live on it's own.
It is natural that a person escapes or attempts to escape, if innocently closed. It's not a crime, this is an obvious reaction. The detention the oppression.
This isn't about innocence only doing what is necessary for good of collective.Mentally ill and contagiously sick are locked due to their condition that made them dangerous for others not because they did something wrong, same is in case of mages (only that mages are much more dangerous). Plus, most of mages do don't what Anders did.That is also natural that society punish law brakers.
Said, death squads were killing criminals that were aiding mages, so fine by me.
This isn't about innocence only doing what is necessary for good of collective.Mentally ill and contagiously sick are locked due to their condition that made them dangerous for others not because they did something wrong, same is in case of mages. Plus, most of mages do don't what Anders did.That is also natural that society punish law brakers.
And it is also natural that the people, who oppressed by the law, will rebel against the law...
And then so things happen, as that Anders did.
Xil laying the bait and TKS just biting like a child, sad.
Aside that is horrible story telling? World and setting shouldn't adapt to player only live on it's own.
Such salt. Did you not consider that your assessment may have been incorrect?
Xil laying the bait and TKS just biting like a child, sad.
See?
This may be the first time I've seen someone hooked by metabait.
Anyway, do we have an accord?
And it is also natural that the people, who oppressed by the law, will rebel against the law...
Poor Anders, he had highest living standard in Thedas for free and was safer than he would be outside.
Such salt. Did you not consider that your assessment may have been incorrect?
If you dismiss opposition as salt, you probably think you are special snowflake. No i didn't consider, setting and world that exist to suck up to player is inconscient and chaotic, pretty much opposite of good writing.
Xil laying the bait and TKS just biting like a child, sad.
Why i shouldn't grab easy opportunity to crush my opponent if he makes it easy for me?
If you dismiss opposition as salt, you probably think you are special snowflake. No i didn't consider, setting and world that exist to suck up to player is inconscient and chaotic, pretty much opposite of good writing.
The other part of the assessment. I disagree that it exists to suck up to the player. It logically flows just fine.
Poor Anders, he had highest living standard in Thedas for free and was safer than he would be outside.
But he (and much people in the world) still prefer to live freely (and hiding!). Isn't it weird?
(Fenris also had break the law, when escaped fron Danarius, and Fenris are dangerous too. The best thing that Hawke can do to return him to his former master.)
The other part of the assessment. I disagree that it exists to suck up to the player. It logically flows just fine.
It doesn't plain and simple, DAI and Leliana ending completly disregarded what was shown and established in previous instalments when it comes to mage issue for sake mary sueish and unfitting to the setting ending "freedom solves everything". 
But he (and much people in the world) still prefer to live freely (and hiding!). Isn't it weird?
Yeah, almost all people prefer to have more than less, doesn't mean we should allow them to break laws or to do whatever they want.
Fenris isn't walking bomb that can blow up entire world.
Yeah, almost all people prefer to have more than less, doesn't mean we should allow them to break laws or to do whatever they want.
Fenris isn't walking bomb that can blow up entire world.
But dangerous and had break the "holy" law...
It doesn't plain and simple, DAI and Leliana ending completly disregarded what was shown and established in previous instalments when it comes to mage issue for sake mary sueish and unfitting to the setting ending "freedom solves everything".
Assertion without backup. What are your reasons? What exactly was wrong?
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