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[En Es Ef Dubyu]

I have seen threads and posts about having an all male race, lamenting that the writers did not create asari with males and females, and threads about the possibility of transgenders in the next installment of ME.

 

 

While this will not cover all the above inquiries and concerns (particularly in regards to transgenderism), I do think it would be an excellent idea for BioWare to show an asari or asari that do not conform to the assembly-line-manufactured space babe ideal. The team did say they were creating more diversity within various species' looks. Perhaps we can see some asari that appear more androgynous to us humans. 

 

Even among us human females, there are some of us born with very little breast development, if any at all. Some of us are very tall, have very defined muscles, or have actively built up our muscles, and some of us have deeper voices. Some of us have masculine faces. 

 

Certainly we could see asari that resemble:

 

 

http://kolakis.devia...Asari-297946860

 

As Liara stated in ME-  she is not precisely a woman, male and female has no real meaning to asari, they have maternal instinct, but are not female in the sense that other species (like our own) understand it.

 

 

So now a couple of questions:

 

1 Would you be opposed to seeing diversity, of this kind, among asari?

 

2 Most important (this is the BSN after all) would you romance an androgynous asari? 

 

 

 

*Apologies ahead of time if I have offended anyone as it was not intended  

 

 

Edit: In case it wasn't clear: I am not asking for all asari to be androgynous, just some to be portrayed that way.

Modifié par StarSprinkled, 27 mai 2016 - 01:48 .

[MisterJB]

But that goes against the lore since we know that asari mentally manipulate those they interact with into seeing them as the ideal female of their species.

(serious/not serious)

[Element Zero]

The Asari have already been established as the species we know from the original trilogy-- blue (not)women. Changing that is a retcon, and would be a terrible idea, in my opinion.

I'm all for new species. That would be the place for something like this, should they feel the need. I'm against needless retcons changing existing lore.

[En Es Ef Dubyu]

But that goes against the lore since we know that asari mentally manipulate those they interact with into seeing them as the ideal female of their species.

(serious/not serious)

That would only work if they were all attractive, which let's face it, not all are:

 

[En Es Ef Dubyu]

The Asari have already been established as the species we know from the original trilogy-- blue (not)women. Changing that is a retcon, and would be a terrible idea, in my opinion.

I'm all for new species. That would be the place for something like this, should they feel the need. I'm against needless retcons changing existing lore.

Changing what? They are not clones. Certainly there is diversity among the species. Some are tall, short, thin, curvy, or fat. Some are pretty, some not so pretty. Some may be androgynous to our human eyes. That doesn't change the species but adds to it. This is no different than an androgynous human female that is still identified/identifying as female. It changes nothing about the portrayal of our species, unless that portrayal is indicating we come off an assembly line where all our bodies are 100% identical, which has been dismissed if you consider the differences between Jack and Miranda's body types.

 

 

Example:

 

 

An androgynous asari is still a mind melding, child birthing asari, and she can still identify as "she".

Modifié par StarSprinkled, 27 mai 2016 - 07:27 .

[Element Zero]

That would only work if they were all attractive, which let's face it, not all are:
 

Yeah, that was a BS line from an intoxicated guy at a bachelor party. Some fans have just jumped all over it as "lore". MisterJB did say he was only half-serious.

[Mcfly616]

Oh look, one of these threads....

[Element Zero]

Changing what? They are not clones. Certainly there is diversity among the species. Some are tall, short, thin, curvy, or fat. Some are pretty, some not so pretty. Some may be androgynous to our human eyes. That doesn't change the species but adds to it. This is no different than an androgynous human female that is still identified/identifying as female. It changes nothing about the portrayal of our species, unless that portrayal is indicating we come off an assemble line where all our bodies are 100% identical.

I'm sure someone will get pissed at how I phrase this, but whatever. I'm not trying to be offensive with the following.

KD Lang was/is clearly modeling her look after the look of men-- the other gender of her own species. Asari have no such component among their kind. Have they been spending so much time with us that they now start trying to look like human men?

That initial image you posted was clearly an artist's concept of a male Asari. That is a retcon. Asari are built like human women. We can go back and forth with all the scifi jibber-jabber we want for days, and it won't change the facts. Asari were designed to be "blue space babes". I'd like to think that they have a bit more depth to them that that description implies, but that was the initial inspiration. James T. Kirk gets down with green space babes, and Shepard gets down with blue ones.

Making some Asari suddenly look like human men would be jarring and disturbing. It would certainly qualify as a retcon, in my mind.

EDIT: typos

[ZipZap2000]

The Asari must have extremely powerful mind control powers for their photos vids and holo's to all be able trick us into thinking they're beautiful females. They must really distort the sense of touch as well. I mean you'd think you'd notice the face your lips are kissing feels.....I dunno what's the current theory? Furry? Insect face mandibles? Xenomorphs?

This 'Asari are space parasites' thing has less evidence than IT.

@Op

I prefer your idea about a completely different race. No, I wouldn't romance. I need clearly defined roles in that regard.

[Cyonan]

The mental manipulation theory was never even remotely confirmed and is basically just based off 3 drunk guys in a bar talking about a stripper. The evidence is flimsier than a wet paper towel.

 

Though I'd rather they keep the Asari feminine. You've already got Krogan(and to an extent Turian) for females that don't look like traditional Human women.

[En Es Ef Dubyu]

The mental manipulation theory was never even remotely confirmed and is basically just based off 3 drunk guys in a bar talking about a stripper. The evidence is flimsier than a wet paper towel.

 

Though I'd rather they keep the Asari feminine. You've already got Krogan(and to an extent Turian) for females that don't look like traditional Human women.

Yes, but as a straight woman who predominately roleplays straight female characters, a more masculine-look for some asari would be a dream come true, even if these asari aren't romance options, it would be nice to see they exist.

[Puddi III]

I thought drell were the alien mancandy.

[Killroy]

Apparently I have a signature that's relevant to this thread.

[Killroy]

I thought drell were the alien mancandy.

 

There are female Drell.

[Puddi III]

Yeah but who cares about them. Not bioware.

[Killroy]

Yeah but who cares about them. Not bioware.

 

My penis cares. 

[En Es Ef Dubyu]

I thought drell were the alien mancandy.

I do not think the drell will be in Andromeda at all. It's just a bad feeling I get given their low numbers and relative absence during the trilogy. 

[KamuiStorm]

So... boobless asari?




BLASPHEMY!!!!!!

[The Real Pearl #2]

Nice avatar. Keep up the good work. proud of you.

[Zazzerka]

If the asari in the OP is an androgynous female, then I'm a pretty princess.

[slimgrin]

Against it 100%. Kills the lore. 

[The Real Pearl #2]

Sorry bub but i don't want smurf sausages in my andromurder

[Melbella]

I'm always confused when people call the asari ungendered. They are monogendered, meaning 1 gender, not no gender. That one gender is female.

[Cyonan]

Yes, but as a straight woman who predominately roleplays straight female characters, a more masculine-look for some asari would be a dream come true, even if these asari aren't romance options, it would be nice to see they exist.

 

So basically what you want is just a male Asari, without it technically being considered a male Asari. An androgynous Asari would be one you'd be unable to determine the gender of just by looking at, but you are specifically asking for a masculine looking Asari.

 

Though personally I just don't see the point. It's not like there wont be eye candy in the game anyway for the ladies(or men who prefer that).

 

If you could make an actual interesting character out of it that wasn't just a walking PSA like Krem was maybe, but that's how these kinds of characters typically end up going in a BioWare game.

[The Real Pearl #2]

So basically what you want is just a male Asari, without it technically being considered a male Asari. An androgynous Asari would be one you'd be unable to determine the gender of just by looking at, but you are specifically asking for a masculine looking Asari.

 

Though personally I just don't see the point. It's not like there wont be eye candy in the game anyway for the ladies(or men who prefer that).

 

If you could make an actual interesting character out of it that wasn't just a walking PSA like Krem was maybe, but that's how these kinds of characters typically end up going in a BioWare game.

I think he just wants an asari with a sausage.