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[Obliviousmiss]

It would take a studio/network with tons of cash to throw at it, and it would take a lot of talented people to make it work for general audiences so I would be apprehensive until I knew the network and creative team behind a Mass Effect TV show. HBO or Netflix would be my top choices for networks since they're willing to throw huge sums as grand-scale series. Maybe Alex Garland and his usual team of collaborators could do something great with Mass Effect? Or better yet, Alex Garland and Shane Black both being showrunners.

 

I was thinking a Mass Effect series would be right up Netflix's alley once I saw what they could do with Jessica Jones.

[Cyonan]

Any adaptation of Mass Effect should stay away from the trilogy. If they make any major decision canon it would be disastrous.

[Killroy]

Any adaptation of Mass Effect should stay away from the trilogy. If they make any major decision canon it would be disastrous.

 

That's silly. The audience for the show would be TV viewers, not people who played the game and take it entirely too seriously. 

[Cyonan]

That's silly. The audience for the show would be TV viewers, not people who played the game and take it entirely too seriously. 

 

If you think the fanbase wouldn't explode as a result of BioWare making a canon original trilogy, you clearly haven't spent enough time here.

 

I imagine a lot of us watch TV. I hear it's a really common thing to do.

[Killroy]

If you think the fanbase wouldn't explode as a result of BioWare making a canon original trilogy, you clearly haven't spent enough time here.

 

I imagine a lot of us watch TV. I hear it's a really common thing to do.

 

What would a vocal minority of losers do? Whine on the internet? We're talking about a TV series, not a game. A major network like HBO gives zero craps about whiners on the internet. Look at Game of Thrones. Every episode has die-hard fans of the books up in arms and yet the show is still going.

I think you've let the BSN's melodrama infect your brain. 

[Cyonan]

What would a vocal minority of losers do? Whine on the internet? We're talking about a TV series, not a game. A major network like HBO gives zero craps about whiners on the internet. Look at Game of Thrones. Every episode has die-hard fans of the books up in arms and yet the show is still going.

I think you've let the BSN's melodrama infect your brain. 

 

GoT fans also didn't start an entire internet campaign that got Martin to change the endings to one of his books.

 

BioWare's fanbase goes above and beyond standard internet whining. Especially when it comes to our precious "our choices matter" thing.

[Killroy]

GoT fans also didn't start an entire internet campaign that got Martin to change the endings to one of his books.

 

BioWare's fanbase goes above and beyond standard internet whining. Especially when it comes to our precious "our choices matter" thing.

 

Your argument doesn't even make sense. Why would Martin change the ending to one of his books because of complaints toward the TV series? Hell, let's compare apples to apples. Did complaints about terrible quality actually get BioWare to change the book Deception?

And why should HBO care about whiny gamers? Have whiny gamers ever gotten production of a crappy video game movie shut down? Did whiny gamers get the Catalyst and the "Yo dawg" ending of ME3 changed? HBO, Netflix, etc have about as much to fear from whiny Mass Effect players as a gang of loud babies.

[Cyonan]

Your argument doesn't even make sense. Why would Martin change the ending to one of his books because of complaints toward the TV series? Hell, let's compare apples to apples. Did complaints about terrible quality actually get BioWare to change the book Deception?

And why should HBO care about whiny gamers? Have whiny gamers ever gotten production of a crappy video game movie shut down? Did whiny gamers get the Catalyst and the "Yo dawg" ending of ME3 changed? HBO, Netflix, etc have about as much to fear from whiny Mass Effect players as a gang of loud babies.

 

Gamers complaining got BioWare to change the ending to Mass Effect 3. Maybe they didn't get the ending they originally wanted and not everything was changed but the fact remains "whiny gamers" got the ending to ME3 changed. They also got the crap ending to Fallout 3 changed as well(even though Bethesda made us pay for it).

 

When you're making a show or movie based on something, it's generally not a great idea to ****** off the core fanbase of that thing. The majority of stuff doesn't get to gain popularity in mainstream society as quickly as Game of Thrones did. Even GoT was trying to do the books justice so as to not ****** off the readers who they expected to be the bulk of their audience at first.

 

Not everything is Game of Thrones level popularity.

[Killroy]

Gamers complaining got BioWare to change the ending to Mass Effect 3. Maybe they didn't get the ending they originally wanted and not everything was changed but the fact remains "whiny gamers" got the ending to ME3 changed. They also got the crap ending to Fallout 3 changed as well(even though Bethesda made us pay for it).

 

When you're making a show or movie based on something, it's generally not a great idea to ****** off the core fanbase of that thing. The majority of stuff doesn't get to gain popularity in mainstream society as quickly as Game of Thrones did. Even GoT was trying to do the books justice so as to not ****** off the readers who they expected to be the bulk of their audience at first.

 

Not everything is Game of Thrones level popularity.

 

You're comparing apples and oranges. Mass Effect players were not happy with the excessively stupid ending of the the game. It wasn't a book, or a movie, or a TV show based on the game. It was the damn game. The core audience of any Mass Effect show would not be the butthurt idiots who don't want a Mass Effect TV series to happen in the first place.

Now think about it objectively. How many people are die-hard Mass Effect fans? Maybe a hundred thousand? How many of them are morons who get bent out of shape over "muh personal canon"? How many of them are in any position to get a major network to bend to their will? 

 

Stop being so melodramatic.

[Cyonan]

You're comparing apples and oranges. Mass Effect players were not happy with the excessively stupid ending of the the game. It wasn't a book, or a movie, or a TV show based on the game. It was the damn game. The core audience of any Mass Effect show would not be the butthurt idiots who don't want a Mass Effect TV series to happen in the first place.

Now think about it objectively. How many people are die-hard Mass Effect fans? Maybe a hundred thousand? How many of them are morons who get bent out of shape over "muh personal canon"? How many of them are in any position to get a major network to bend to their will? 

 

Stop being so melodramatic.

 

There was a time when people would have asked "how many of them are in any position to get a major developer to bend to their will?", but the fact still remains that those people complaining got BioWare to change the ending to Mass Effect 3.
 

If you can't understand that then I'm done here. All that any further discussion would be is just repeating myself while you continue to do little more than insult everybody who doesn't agree with you.

[Gothfather]

I love the second video because of the outro. 

"The war for earth begins. Decide how it ends...."

 

I wish I could go back and try to warn everyone it ends with Shepard committing suicide no matter what you decide, they wouldn't believe me for one second. 

I would have believed you.

 

The series is filled with secular messiah symbolism, a messiah figure almost always has to die to bring about the better world. Shepard sacrificing themselves to stop the reaper threat was so foreshadowed is was almost being screamed at us. Which is why I have more of a WTF? moment when people are shocked that Shepard dies in the end. It is almost like no one paid attention to grade 11 & 12 English classes that go on an on about story theme and symbolism and learning to recognise them within stories and I hated these classes.

 

I think it is a bit telling that so many people were clueless.

[GaroTD]

I think Mass Effect is able to make this work. I would love something like Eidos did in their new trailer for Deus Ex, something with great atmosphere and plot:

https://www.youtube....h?v=1Fpk5RUa4kI

[Furisco]

I really wouldn't mind if they made an adaptation of the trilogy.

 

My Shepard will always be mine and i would love to see him/her story on a well made movie/series.

[Killroy]

There was a time when people would have asked "how many of them are in any position to get a major developer to bend to their will?", but the fact still remains that those people complaining got BioWare to change the ending to Mass Effect 3.
 

If you can't understand that then I'm done here. All that any further discussion would be is just repeating myself while you continue to do little more than insult everybody who doesn't agree with you.

 

All you've done is repeat yourself. But your argument is stupid. If you can't see the difference ME3's terrible ending and a hypothetical Mass Effect TV show retelling the trilogy then you have some serious cognitive challenges.

[Furisco]

I heard that people can be very kind on those internet forums.

[JPVNG]

why wouldn't t be possible a tv series? or a movie? or a book?

If there is an audience its always possible. 

I would love to read books about Mass Effect fantastic story..or to see a movie or a tv series..

And i m convinced the majority of the fans would too.

Canon or not.

Life is not made of absolutes.

 

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[Monk]

I wouldn't mind seeing this, though i feel between budgetary concerns and new lore to explore, it would likely be something other than Shepard's part being explored. Maybe some N7 group, kinda like how Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. covers various missions that occasionally link back to the Avengers and other aspects of Marvel (from what i've read).

 

I think the biggest treasure will be, of course, DVD/Blu-Ray discs containing all the lore and other  goodies too complex for normal audiences.

[Cyonan]

why wouldn't t be possible a tv series? or a movie? or a book?

If there is an audience its always possible. 

I would love to read books about Mass Effect fantastic story..or to see a movie or a tv series..

And i m convinced the majority of the fans would too.

Canon or not.

Life is not made of absolutes.

 

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In general the more hardcore of the fans don't like it when you mess with the lore of something in adapting it to another medium. Since the lore of Shep's story is variable, you pretty much can't cover it without messing with it to a huge degree.

 

While it would be technically possible to create a show about the trilogy that does well, you're still better off not doing stuff to alienate the core fanbase.

 

You could still have the story be during the time span of the original trilogy. It's just best to be safe about details pertaining to Shep and company, at least until you've established a much larger fanbase that goes beyond just the fans of the game.

[Addictress]

I just don't think television is epic enough of a medium. Game of Thrones is top-notch, intense and rife with social drama, but is it 'epic'? Would you put the Lord of the Rings into a TV series?

 

Television shows have come far but I think they're more about drama, not about grandiose epics. I wouldn't put Star Wars into a TV series. And I believe Mass Effect is more like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars, than it is Game of Thrones.

[JPVNG]

In general the more hardcore of the fans don't like it when you mess with the lore of something in adapting it to another medium. Since the lore of Shep's story is variable, you pretty much can't cover it without messing with it to a huge degree.

 

While it would be technically possible to create a show about the trilogy that does well, you're still better off not doing stuff to alienate the core fanbase.

 

You could still have the story be during the time span of the original trilogy. It's just best to be safe about details pertaining to Shep and company, at least until you've established a much larger fanbase that goes beyond just the fans of the game.

 

There is a say on my country: "nem 8 nem 80"  in English maybe i can translate like everything or nothing at all. Its the closest maybe

Are you saying the core of Mass Effect are the hardcore fans? same to Starwars or Star trek? (i know what the hardcore ST fans say about the new Star Trek)

Marketing is always directed to the general audience i think.

I don t like to be hardcore about anything (yeah yeah don t think about that), or fanatic.

The reason is never there.

[JPVNG]

I just don't think television is epic enough of a medium. Game of Thrones is top-notch, intense and rife with social drama, but is it 'epic'? Would you put the Lord of the Rings into a TV series?

 

Television shows have come far but I think they're more about drama, not about grandiose epics. I wouldn't put Star Wars into a TV series. And I believe Mass Effect is more like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars, than it is Game of Thrones.

i don t know...i don t follow game of Thrones...but i think the series is epic enough..i d measured epicness (?) about the impact it has on audience and GoT has it..or Walking Dead for that matter... When a TV show is well done its as epic as anything.

heck Star Trek is what it is because of the TV.

[Cyonan]

There is a say on my country: "nem 8 nem 80"  in English maybe i can translate like everything or nothing at all. Its the closest maybe

Are you saying the core of Mass Effect are the hardcore fans? same to Starwars or Star trek? (i know what the hardcore ST fans say about the new Star Trek)

Marketing is always directed to the general audience i think.

I don t like to be hardcore about anything (yeah yeah don t think about that), or fanatic.

The reason is never there.

 

Marketing is directed towards the general public because it's assumed the core fans are going to see it anyway regardless. Same as with the game, you don't need to market ME:A towards us because we're already interested. That doesn't mean that you should ignore the core fans, though.

 

I don't say core fans to mean the ones that obsess over the thing but rather the ones with more than a passing interest in it. Pretty much anybody posting on these forums I would call a core Mass Effect fan(unless they're posting just to talk about how much they don't like the game in which case I'm confused as to why they're here).

 

I'm not saying it's impossible to make a Mass Effect for the general public and do well with it. I'm just saying if they were going to make a TV show or movie, they'd run a lower risk by not alienating the core fans of the games.

 

Since the general public mostly doesn't even know who Shep is, including them on screen is basically just fanservice anyway. It wouldn't do to have fanservice that annoys your core fans. You can include other known characters from the universe as fanservice without having to turn anything canon. Even squadmates could be included, depending on the time frame of the show/movie.

[Addictress]

i don t know...i don t follow game of Thrones...but i think the series is epic enough..i d measured epicness (?) about the impact it has on audience and GoT has it..or Walking Dead for that matter... When a TV show is well done its as epic as anything.

heck Star Trek is what it is because of the TV.

No, it's not epic. Apparently you didn't appreciate LotR in the cinema properly if you think that that type of cinematic epic-ness could ever be on TV.

[JPVNG]

Well it is your opinion. I have mine. It is different from yours.

[heinoMK2]

ME TV-series with the quality level of GoT would be pretty great, but also probably madly expensive to make and would require intelligent, scientificaly educated and simply good story writers who seem to be immensely rare.

 

p.s.: Andromeda would be totally fine for a setting, i'd hate to have a prequel or retelling of ME story or anything similar.