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[JPVNG]

I see your point..i understand your opinion..that was already discussed in the topic about the possibility of books...but you know that there are criticism by the most devoted fans about everything...starwars and Star Trek are a so obvious example.

Maybe you right, it would be less riskier for them to make something not related with Shepard..but it would have the same success? As a devoted fan, yet a fresh one, i only started playing Mass Effect last year, i think the general fans would accept it without problems if well done.

For me..and i play games for many years, i think Mass Effect is special.

Its a universe that deserves to grow outside the game and i think a lot of people think the same..

 

[lastpatriot]

I love the second video because of the outro. 

"The war for earth begins. Decide how it ends...."

 

I wish I could go back and try to warn everyone it ends with Shepard committing suicide no matter what you decide, they wouldn't believe me for one second. 

 

That is, unless you use the MEHEM mod.  It's the only way I can play it now.

[ZipZap2000]

I would have believed you.

The series is filled with secular messiah symbolism, a messiah figure almost always has to die to bring about the better world. Shepard sacrificing themselves to stop the reaper threat was so foreshadowed is was almost being screamed at us. Which is why I have more of a WTF? moment when people are shocked that Shepard dies in the end. It is almost like no one paid attention to grade 11 & 12 English classes that go on an on about story theme and symbolism and learning to recognise them within stories and I hated these classes.

I think it is a bit telling that so many people were clueless.

Dying isn't the problem. It was the forced to commit suicide bit that annoyed most people.

[Silvery]

I would love a Mass Effect TV series. It would make more sense then a movie because as others have said you have more time to cover and explain everything then try and condense it into a 2-3 hour event. The problem with it is the budget for such a TV show would probably be very big, so a Mass Effect TV show would need to be a massive hit for it to be worthwhile to make. 

[Ascari]

I would prefer if BioWare made a animated TV series

[KaiserShep]

I would prefer if BioWare made a animated TV series

I don't believe that Mass Effect would translate well at all to live action. There's just something about it that doesn't gel with me.

[Addictress]

it would have to be incredibly well done. I mean, you'd need not just a major director but an art-house director willing to push the edges and do something no one has ever seen before. That's the standard I'd set for them.

[Steelcan]

All of these people praising GoT are actually putting me off this, GoT is increasingly becoming less and less of an adaptation of ASoIaF and more of a room for the writers to do what they want, and I very much do not want any potential ME show to do that.  The people need to understand the material through and through.

[Killroy]

All of these people praising GoT are actually putting me off this, GoT is increasingly becoming less and less of an adaptation of ASoIaF and more of a room for the writers to do what they want, and I very much do not want any potential ME show to do that.  The people need to understand the material through and through.

 

You realize there is no more material for the GoT writers to know through and through, right? 

[aoibhealfae]

lol, HBO pioneered the amount of sexposition in their tv-adaptations. Sookie Stackhouse's novel series were really vanilla for average paranormal romance and yet True Blood consistently pace itself well with random nudity and sex scenes. I haven't marathon much of earlier GOT lately and I think people only come for the nudity rather than the politics. And GRR Martin was heavily involved with the production, he's an executive producer, wrote at least one episode in the first four season. It was much of his show as his books.

 

HBO's Mass Effect will probably be something that was in ME universe and every hours you see someone jiggle their boobs and have fake unsafe sex with mostly aliens. 

[NKnight7]

I'd love an ME TV series, Netflix could be an interesting choice to help provide it. 

[Killroy]

lol, HBO pioneered the amount of sexposition in their tv-adaptations. Sookie Stackhouse's novel series were really vanilla for average paranormal romance and yet True Blood consistently pace itself well with random nudity and sex scenes. I haven't marathon much of earlier GOT lately and I think people only come for the nudity rather than the politics. And GRR Martin was heavily involved with the production, he's an executive producer, wrote at least one episode in the first four season. It was much of his show as his books.

 

HBO's Mass Effect will probably be something that was in ME universe and every hours you see someone jiggle their boobs and have fake unsafe sex with mostly aliens. 

 

That's stupid. Most episodes don't have nudity and the biggest, most talked about moments are character deaths, not character jugs. 

[aoibhealfae]

There's a supercut of all sex and nudity scenes in the series which is near as long as an episode. This is what you call a hook and baiting. Gratuitous violence and character deaths and even interesting lore isn't enough and it work for HBO to attract loyalty. Sex sells. It is known. Valar Morghulis.

 

If it come to it, FOX could take on it with HBO-like fund but they love cancellation so much especially if the pilot didn't attract more than 4-5 millions viewers. SyFy have The Expanse which already is their ambitious project (and they barely adapt half of the first book). The most realistic was BBC America especially since Bioware is Canadian and they support Doctor Who productions which could use more space-worthy stories. 

[Killroy]

There's a supercut of all sex and nudity scenes in the series which is near as long as an episode. This is what you call a hook and baiting. Gratuitous violence and character deaths and even interesting lore isn't enough and it work for HBO to attract loyalty. Sex sells. It is known. Valar Morghulis.

 

Your argument is entirely nonsensical.

[aoibhealfae]

and your argument on how Game of Thrones are popular because characters deaths are just as nonsensical. 

[Laughing_Man]

There's a supercut of all sex and nudity scenes in the series which is near as long as an episode. This is what you call a hook and baiting. Gratuitous violence and character deaths and even interesting lore isn't enough and it work for HBO to attract loyalty. Sex sells. It is known. Valar Morghulis.

 

And?...

 

Calling it gratuitous is completely subjective. You don't like the style? Don't watch it.

I'm sure that there are enough tame medical / police / law / whatever drama shows out there that wouldn't offend your sensibilities.

 

With HBO there's at least a chance that something shocking or interesting enough will occur, unlike the usual stretchy drama timewaster snorefests of

more generic "traditional" TV shows.

 

More choices for mature audience are always good.

[JPVNG]

Saying that game of thrones is popular only because of sex, is to be blind to the rest.

[JPVNG]

I would prefer if BioWare made a animated TV series

That would be for a more restricted audience

[Guanxii]

A Netflix original Mass Effect series would only work as an animated cartoon because otherwise every episode would cost more than half a season of Game Of Thrones - aside from the wall to wall CGI, think of the set building and production costs alone. Shooting on location with light cgi is a lot cheaper than building entire sets which is not really much of an option except for uncharted worlds. Game Of Thrones quasi-European-medieval setting makes it possible and it earned it's global audience before funds were released to pay for elaborate set designs and global production crews and movie quality special effects teams. A live action Mass Effect series would need all those from day one. It might eventually be possible if either the game series or a movie series builds a global audience for it but until then it's an impossible dream. 

[JPVNG]

Anyway this is an utopian conversation..we don t even have books about Mass Effect.

[Para9on So1dier]

People would really be bothered by a TV Shepard that doesn't fully replicate their game Shepard?

 

TV Shepard could be the complete opposite of my game Shepard and I would still watch it, I'm a fan of the franchise, not just the one character.

 

Seriously some people are just way too emotionally attached

[Helios969]

There was a time when people would have asked "how many of them are in any position to get a major developer to bend to their will?", but the fact still remains that those people complaining got BioWare to change the ending to Mass Effect 3.
 

If you can't understand that then I'm done here. All that any further discussion would be is just repeating myself while you continue to do little more than insult everybody who doesn't agree with you.

You're awfully generous with "change."  At best they expanded on the existing stupidity to clarify to their audience what they intended...and it was a marginal improvement.  A change would have been removing the Catalyst in lieu of battling Reaper forces across the Citadel to open the arms for the Crucible to blow the Reapers to h*ll.  Which for the bulk would have been preferable to the nonsense we got.

[aoibhealfae]

I guess some of you don't other watching HBO shows as well.. Game of Thrones, True Blood, True Detectives, Empire... all of which uses gratuitous stuff to attract its viewership. Even the first couple seasons of GoT struggled to gain its base, sexposition is what the earlier seasons was famous for and they didn't became massive worldwide commercial success and internet sensation overnight. While characters deaths was a factor but it certainly wasn't what makes GoT unique especially in television.

 

The last HBO I watched that was heavily political but without any gratuitous sex/violence was Show Me A Hero. Love it and adore it and yet hardly anyone knows it exist. Showtime's The Borgias was premiered the same week as Game of Thrones, both historical, political, gratuitous violence and sex but it didn't fair well after a few seasons. BTW, Cesare and Lucrezia did better at being convincingly siblings who are having an incestuous affair than the Lannisters. 

 

...as if Mass Effect are going to be adult-only.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

There's a supercut of all sex and nudity scenes in the series which is near as long as an episode. This is what you call a hook and baiting. Gratuitous violence and character deaths and even interesting lore isn't enough and it work for HBO to attract loyalty. Sex sells. It is known. Valar Morghulis.

 

If it come to it, FOX could take on it with HBO-like fund but they love cancellation so much especially if the pilot didn't attract more than 4-5 millions viewers. SyFy have The Expanse which already is their ambitious project (and they barely adapt half of the first book). The most realistic was BBC America especially since Bioware is Canadian and they support Doctor Who productions which could use more space-worthy stories. 

 

Well if you're considering all the episodes up to season 5, that's like a 1: 50 ratio which seems rather low for the emphasis you've given it. The violence is also rarely gratuitous and most always fits the situation and the setting. Saying that people see game of thrones for just the nudity would be as misleading as saying people buy ice cream Sundays for the cherry on top where the nudity is the metaphorical cherry.  And how did you get to Valar Morghulis from sex sells? 

 

As for a mass effect series, I'm not an advocate for a tv series for a number of reasons. The first being that it needs a lot of CGI or some really good animatronics to make believable aliens, given that we interact with aliens quite a lot in the ME universe. A series might not have the budget available for such a level of investment over a long time such as the running period of the series. I just don't wanna see a mass effect consisting of mostly humans or the occasional cheap cgi aliens.

 

Another reason is that Mass Effect has mostly been about the characters, the setting and the back lore to me. Shepard is well and good but everyone has a different way of playing their Shepard and trying to make a story about Shepard will invariably clash with the views and headcanon of a lot of the game's fan base. The story is also to be quite honest, not really all that sophisticated or deep. A different story in the same setting has much more potential for a more in depth and subtle narrative that I feel has more potential in a movie/series adaptation. 

 

A movie in comparison to a series is shorter and has more budget and production houses behind it. And since it's a single work the developers can also spend more resources and effort than for a series where it might be spread over the much longer course of production and episodes. This part is my speculation of course but then again, I can't remember seeing any series with lots of CGI that was done well and consistently used throughout the series. The average movie also has much better actors and directors than the average tv series as far as I know. 

[Laughing_Man]

Isn't Halo considered a bigger and more "mainstream" franchise than ME?

 

It might work better as a movie, the concepts are more generic in nature, and you don't have to explain Element Zero and

the application into everything, yet somehow it wasn't considered for an actual movie / TV show.