I would dare to say Abrams gets better Star Trek than other stuff he's made.
What else has he adapted? Mission Impossible and Star Wars? Star Wars seems to have gone over extremely well and Mission Impossible 3 was the first good movie in that series.
Then tell me what star trek is supposed to be.
Hmm, I've always thought the only good M:I film was the first one.
What else has he adapted? Mission Impossible and Star Wars? Star Wars seems to have gone over extremely well and Mission Impossible 3 was the first good movie in that series.
Perhaps the only people I would trust to write a Mass Effect movie would be the original writers of the actual game.
The writers on the game are professional writers and can write film scripts. Do it!
Being a fan of the source material isn't a prerequisite for a quality film. The best Star Trek movies(II, IV & VI) were directed by a guy who wasn't a fan of Trek and insisted on making changes to the scripts. Meanwhile, JJ Abrams claims to be a huge fan of Star Trek but made generic action movies instead of Trek movies.
Made generic action movies that people like to see..not only the hardcore fans.
And in my opinion, the first JJ Abrams Star Trek movie had one of the most, for me as a fan, beautiful starting movie sequences ever..and that initial scene was a true homage to Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry.
I remember to feel goosebumps when I heard those "bip" sounds.
But some fans are never happy. If not for him we would t have nothing at all
Perhaps the only people I would trust to write a Mass Effect movie would be the original writers of the actual game.
The writers on the game are professional writers and can write film scripts. Do it!
That is not true at all. Different mediums require entirely different writing skills. There's a reason that Stan Lee isn't writing all of Marvel's movies.
Made generic action movies that people like to see..not only the hardcore fans.
And in my opinion, the first JJ Abrams Star Trek movie had one of the most, for me as a fan, beautiful starting movie sequences ever..and that initial scene was a true homage to Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry.
I remember to feel goosebumps when I heard those "bip" sounds.
But some fans are never happy. If not for him we would t have nothing at all
...do you think JJ Abrams is the reason those new Trek movies were made?
That is not true at all. Different mediums require entirely different writing skills. There's a reason that Stan Lee isn't writing all of Marvel's movies.
In order to reach the professional level to be writing on a game you need to be a truly versatile writer. Writers don't say, "I'm going to stick to movies only." Professional writers write for everything.
That's not true at all. Show me any writer who's conquered more than 2 fields of writing. Then show me 10 more, because that 1 person you might find is a freak of nature.
Writers of film scripts have written all forms of media in their lives. A lot of the time, a film script is the only film script ever written by a writer and the writer is typically not doing film scripts the rest of his life.
See above. I know a successful script writer who can't write a novel to save his life. Hell, he can't even write a TV pilot that's good enough to get made despite having half a dozen film scripts go into production.
Every single writer on the Bioware team has gotten where they are because they've written their own books, their own short stories, probably even TV scripts. Writers write all varieties of media.
That's demonstrably false. Just because a few of the staff writers have written books doesn't mean you can make up all this stuff about them.
You really shouldn't talk so authoritatively about stuff you know nothing about.
LOL ha ha ha you have no idea how true that is.
You really shouldn't talk so authoritatively about stuff you know nothing about.
That's not true at all. Show me any writer who's conquered more than 2 fields of writing. Then show me 10 more, because that 1 person you might find is a freak of nature.
See above. I know a successful script writer who can't write a novel to save his life. Hell, he can't even write a TV pilot that's good enough to get made despite having half a dozen film scripts go into production.
That's demonstrably false. Just because a few of the staff writers have written books doesn't mean you can make up all this stuff about them.
You really shouldn't talk so authoritatively about stuff you know nothing about.
Um here are 11? For a small example, Patrick Weekes wrote several novels in addition to Dragon Age game writing.
This isn't some kind of expert knowledge - this is just common knowledge about what writers do and how you get into the field, most of which you pick up when you're exploring different fields in college.
Also really important point: just because you don't see the work officially published doesn't mean the writer hasn't written that type of work before. I'm not talking about "both forms being published" - it's just common sense that writers practice writing in many different forms.
sh*, all my creative roommates have a variety of projects including short stories as well as scripts. Why? Because it works their writing muscle.
I don't know, is this so hard to believe? Most stupid backlash I have ever received on BSN. Thanks.
Um here are 11? For a small example, Patrick Weekes wrote several novels in addition to Dragon Age game writing.
This isn't some kind of expert knowledge - this is just common knowledge about what writers do and how you get into the field, most of which you pick up when you're exploring different fields in college.
Go back and read my post, and then go back and read your previous posts. And then after you do that, go ahead and look at the IMDB pages of the writers of Dragon Age Inquisition and Mass Effect 3. Among both writing teams there's 1 writer who wrote an unknown, poorly received made-for-TV movie starring B-list actors, and 1 writer who "wrote" a single episode of a Canadian network's coverage of a comedy festival. No other film or TV experience. Certainly not the experience you've claimed.
Also really important point: just because you don't see the work officially published doesn't mean the writer hasn't written that type of work before. I'm not talking about "both forms being published" - it's just common sense that writers practice writing in many different forms.
This is what's called "moving the goalposts." You can't support your argument so you change the parameters to make it look like you knew what you were talking about. The BioWare writers are not skilled or seasoned writers of several other mediums, let alone film and television. Writers crossing between many mediums successfully is not at all common.
And just FYI, if most video game writers were good enough to write for film and TV they would very likely be doing it. The pay is much better.
Go back and read my post, and then go back and read your previous posts. And then after you do that, go ahead and look at the IMDB pages of the writers of Dragon Age Inquisition and Mass Effect 3. Among both writing teams there's 1 writer who wrote an unknown, poorly received made-for-TV movie starring B-list actors, and 1 writer who "wrote" a single episode of a Canadian network's coverage of a comedy festival. No other film or TV experience. Certainly not the experience you've claimed.
This is what's called "moving the goalposts." You can't support your argument so you change the parameters to make it look like you knew what you were talking about. The BioWare writers are not skilled or seasoned writers of several other mediums, let alone film and television. Writers crossing between many mediums successfully is not at all common.And just FYI, if most video game writers were good enough to write for film and TV they would very likely be doing it. The pay is much better.
"In order to reach the professional level to be writing on a game you need to be a truly versatile writer. Writers don't say, "I'm going to stick to movies only." Professional writers write for everything.
Writers of film scripts have written all forms of media in their lives. A lot of the time, a film script is the only film script ever written by a writer and the writer is typically not doing film scripts the rest of his life.
Every single writer on the Bioware team has gotten where they are because they've written their own books, their own short stories, probably even TV scripts. Writers write all varieties of media. "
I gave 11 examples of writers who published across different mediums. But obviously writers write in many different mediums on their own.
I was really thinking of fanfic writers, to be honest. None of their stuff is officially published or recorded on IMDB, but I just observe my creative friends who write many different things, whether it be scripts, short stories, etc, for practice. Also whenever I had personal career crises and browsed dumb career articles about how to become a better writer, ALL of them gave the advice to write in different forms. Like it was a basic advice.
So no, I never moved goal posts. To be a professional writer, you have to be a versatile writer. End of story.
...do you think JJ Abrams is the reason those new Trek movies were made?
I gave 11 examples of writers who published across different mediums. But obviously writers write in many different mediums on their own.
I was really thinking of fanfic writers, to be honest. None of their stuff is officially published or recorded on IMDB, but I just observe my creative friends who write many different things, whether it be scripts, short stories, etc, for practice. Also whenever I had personal career crises and browsed dumb career articles about how to become a better writer, ALL of them gave the advice to write in different forms. Like it was a basic advice.
So no, I never moved goal posts. To be a professional writer, you have to be a versatile writer. End of story.
Oh, Jesus Christ. You're just an absurd person. You make these demonstrably false claims and then move the goalposts numerous times when confronted with direct evidence that you were wrong. The writers at BioWare are not "highly versatile" enough to write a successful movie or TV series just because they write video games. That's a silly thing to say, but you had to go one step further. You said they already were writing in any and every medium.
Fan fiction? Just ****ing stop. This entire exchange has been stupid.
Whatever the reason, I'm sure he's part of the reason they suck.
No doubt. He's clearly more like Michael Bay than Gene Roddenberry.
Uh huh.Whatever the reason, I'm sure he's part of the reason they suck.
Writers can write novels all day long and then never publish them. Either because they're not good enough or because they don't feel like it for one reason or another. The same goes for all forms of writing.
For you to argue anything else is beyond obtuse.
The writers at BioWare are not "highly versatile" enough to write a successful movie or TV series just because they write video games.
Right, but you just qualified it. They can write anything they want to write. Hell, anybody can write anything. I can write a movie or TV series. Nobody is going to pick it up, however. I wish you'd stop thinking that you've had to have something being successful in order to be a success at it.
Right, but you just qualified it. They can write anything they want to write. Hell, anybody can write anything. I can write a movie or TV series. Nobody is going to pick it up, however. I wish you'd stop thinking that you've had to have something being successful in order to be a success at it.
Uhhhh...
Whatever. I've given up on you. First of all you state things, then you qualify them and state them as though you stated them in the first place. That's moving the goalposts backwards. But like I said, whatever.
If I never hear "moving the goalposts" again, it'll be too soon.
Whatever. I've given up on you. First of all you state things, then you qualify them and state them as though you stated them in the first place. That's moving the goalposts backwards. But like I said, whatever.
If I never hear "moving the goalposts" again, it'll be too soon.
Then stop saying it. You're clearly not successful at not hearing "move the goalposts."
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