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[LPPrince]

This forum became about as fun to visit as a funeral after they archived Off-Topic, but it had been deteriorating well before that. The only reason I come here any more is to discuss certain games and shows with my friends, and I don't even do that like I used to. It really is a shame, because I loved visiting BSN.

 

 

Same. I moved with a bunch of other regulars to another forum to discuss the things we liked talking about here with other Bioware fans. Problem is, Bioware/EA's decisions are making less and less people fans outside of those that are blindly dedicated to whatever's thrown at them. Including a terribad forum that once was not terribad but became so after developers decided to stop openly posting here, moderation was moved from loads of volunteer mods+Biodevs to the paid-for moderators that we have now, social features like the Off Topic section were removed, and a bunch of other odd decisions.

 

This place is getting lame.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Getting lame? It's been lame since they moved from the old social network, killing off this place was just gratuitous. Looking at the husk of the old BSN is downright depressing. All of the people who've left. I used to have a comment wall, and albums, and real groups.

[voteDC]

Just because it bears mentioning on every page and I know how few people actually read whole threads.

They don't want a general purpose site because they don't want a forum at all.

You can see it at every big corporation. The push to Twitter, Facebook, Reddit etc. Why bother maintaining your own forum when you can go off and use the resources of other companies at no cost.

EA would just like us all to trot off to the other social media sites so they can finally stop pretending to care about the Bioware forum.

Just as true now as when I first posted. There's no value to maintaining your own forum these days to companies, when other social media sites will do all the same stuff for them at no cost at all. They even gain nice little "voteDC liked this post" info coming up on your Facebook wall which could drive you to look at their content.

That's the problem for companies these days, there is no value to a forum because all the people here are fans anyway. They don't care about the people who are already fans, the only people they care about are the ones who may become fans because they are a potential new revenue stream.

It's a shame really as when I first joined the online Bioware community it was alive and vibrant, staff would talk in threads and issues would easily be talked away. What people loved about Bioware wasn't just the quality of the games but that they really did seem to enjoy interacting with the community.

Now I know it is easy to blame it on EA but that's changed now, and it had changed before the uproar over the Mass Effect 3 endings, Bioware just don't seem to care about the people who buy their games any more beyond that they are bought.

[Beerfish]

The day they pulled the plug on off topic with zero notice is a day I stopped talking to and with some people I had talked to at least on a weekly basis if not daily for about 2 years.  To be honest with the decisions that have been made such as the kill off topic and general giving out zero game info that have come into being the last few years it is amazing that anyone at all is on these forums at all.

[Puddi III]

Based on what Jesse Ventura said here it sounds like it was EA's decision to wind down this whole "forum," "fostering community interaction" thing.

[malloc]

 
J.E Sawyer in charge of the forums?
 

Le balance man

[malloc]

Removing off topic because of the content says a lot of about the effectiveness of the moderation system

[voteDC]

It's a sad thing to say but as a 'community' device, forums have pretty much had their day.

I mean it's clear from this one alone that little to no effort is put in. The few staff who still care can't be expected to do everything and you just know when updates come around that the forum is at the bottom of the list, for updates and fixes.

EA want us following the multiple pages for its games on Facebook, looks good on the numbers for the shareholders, not coming to a forum where the only people who are going to be here are people who are already interested.

I don't blame EA for this, Bioware knew exactly who they were getting into bed with when they agreed to sell the company, the history is there after all.

Off-topic was gotten rid of because it helped keep people here. The numbers will slowly trickle away until the day we get an announcement saying something like "Sadly user numbers on the forum have dropped to such a low level that it isn't worth the manpower to keep them going. Thanks for being part of the community". You'll then find links below it to their social media pages.

[Fidite Nemini]

BioWare doesn't want an active community. Because community means interaction ... the only interaction BioWare wants is a following of docile sheep that "Ahhhh" and "Ohhhh" at every nondescript, vague tweet, singing their praises on tumblr and buy their games.

[Heimdall]

I miss OT too.

Now all I have is theory mongering and checking for new info to keep me coming back to this forum.

[LPPrince]

Bioware hasn't exactly done things to endear itself to its audience over the last half decade anyway.

 

Dragon Age 2(in general, too much to individually list)

Mass Effect 3(in general, too much to individually list)

Mass Effect Deception

The Bioware Bazaar

Calling the community "toxic"

Culling loved features of the BSN

 

And thats just some of what Bioware has done or been involved in the last few years that have made things...suck.

 

I remember back when this forum was THRIVING. Fun as hell to be here, so many people, so much discussion, lovely talks about all sorts of things, multiple Bioware employees here nearly every day, the vibe and feeling of this place was wonderful.

 

Then Bioware put out some arguably terrible games, the community told them their games were terrible, the community split between those who supported those games and those who didn't, employees took the vitriol from trolls to heart, Bioware employees bailed from the forum, the place went from having many a community moderator+employee mods to having paid-for moderators that don't socialize or have personalities, features the community used to stay connected and social were removed from the forum, rules enforced were very confusing, the community moderator fails to have a presence on the forum, and thus we're left with this lame ass graveyard of what used to be fun.

 

I don't want to say I hate this place, but goddamn it man.

[voteDC]

 

The Bioware Bazaar

I'm still waiting for the promised follow up for the rest of the world.

I guess that isn't going to happen now either.

[LPPrince]

I'm still waiting for the promised follow up for the rest of the world.

I guess that isn't going to happen now either.

 

 

Or the revised version of Mass Effect Deception which was never released. They just had Priestly say that to quell the discontent.

[voteDC]

Or the revised version of Mass Effect Deception which was never released. They just had Priestly say that to quell the discontent.

Even when he first said that I never believed it would happen.

Had it been a digital only novel then we may have seen some revisions, hell they might even exist, but it wasn't going to happen because the print version was out there on store shelves.

The publisher or EA weren't going to pay for a recall of stock and nor would the retailers buy in revised copies with old versions to still sell. They are still selling brand new print copies of Deception on Amazon for the Flying Spaghetti Monster's sake.

Could you then imagine the fuss if they'd released digital revisions? You'd have those who bought it in print demanding refunds and/or free replacement copies.

It wasn't going to happen. At worst it was a bold faced lie. At best it was a vain hope.

[LPPrince]

Even when he first said that I never believed it would happen.

Had it been a digital only novel then we may have seen some revisions, hell they might even exist, but it wasn't going to happen because the print version was out there on store shelves.

The publisher or EA weren't going to pay for a recall of stock and nor would the retailers buy in revised copies with old versions to still sell. They are still selling brand new print copies of Deception on Amazon for the Flying Spaghetti Monster's sake.

Could you then imagine the fuss if they'd released digital revisions? You'd have those who bought it in print demanding refunds and/or free replacement copies.

It wasn't going to happen. At worst it was a bold faced lie. At best it was a vain hope.

 

 

I thought so as well. Deception was garbage at its core. A complete insult to the intelligence of anyone who was ever a fan of the Mass Effect franchise. So many errors and issues it was worse than a fanfic taken straight off tumblr and put in print. At least if a fan wrote it the basics would've been accurate. For it to have been "fixed" it would have to have been taken off print, be re-written from the ground up by someone who knows what they're doing/knows the franchise, and released again preferably under a new title. Such a shame, this nonsense of the last half decade.

[LPPrince]

Oh and thats not to mention the Facebook polls held to determine the appearance of the default FemShep for ME3;a blonde won out, there was massive amounts of "blondes are dumb/bimbos/idiots" comments from people on Facebook, and Bioware conveniently made no comment about it, decided to re-open polls(due to a lot of comments about wanting a different hair color), and a redhead won(considering a lot of people who voted the first time thought their pick made it in and didn't go back to check).

 

For a company that tries so hard to be open-minded and keep social issues in mind, I always found that depressing.

[voteDC]

I never understood that vote for the default female Shepard since they already had one. She wasn't the prettiest lass in the world but she existed.

Then what you describe happened and she goes from plain Jane to cartoon character. She really doesn't fit in with the other characters of the Mass Effect world.

If they were going to go with the voted for female Shepard, I expected something more like this http://www.nexusmods...ect3/mods/229/? from Bioware, it shouldn't have taken a modder to make a charcter that fit with their world.

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