Path from your early influences to your favorite video games
#1
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 07:59
http://forum.bioware.../#entry20279225
TL;DR, plot the path of early influences to your current favorite games.
The || is the transition from other media (books, tv, movies, tabletop games) to video games.
For me:
The Hobbit -> LoTR -> AD&D -> || => Diablo => Neverwinter Nights => Dragon Age
Star Trek -> Foundation series -> Star Wars -> Traveller -> || => Wing Commander => Mass Effect
Planet of the Apes -> Mad Max -> Gamma World -> || => Fallout 3
Cthulhu Mythos -> Alien -> The Awful Green Things From Outer Space -> Call of Cthulhu RPG -> || DOOM => The Last of Us
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Fallout 3 is one of my favorite games of all time, but I thought part of the charm was that it was a "new" experience for me. I was shocked when I realized that my passion for F3 had its antecedents in Gamma World, back in the day. I had completely forgotten about that game, but the influence had remained, lurking in the background, waiting for the right vehicle for expression.
That got me thinking about how early influences led me on a path to my current favorite video games. The path for each one is surprisingly clear, in hindsight. The survival horror path that culminates in The Last of Us is the only one that's a bit of a stretch. Zombies just weren't as much of a thing back then, at lesat for me--movies like Night of the Living Dead notwithstanding, which I've never seen in any case.
What about you?
#2
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 08:05
We're almost similar, but not quite. I didn't start with the Hobbit. But those Choose Your Adventure books. I didn't play D&D as a kid. My big bro was a jerk, and wouldn't let me hang with him. So I just looked at the art books. ![]()
Wing Commander is my favorite game series, but I never related it to Mass Effect exactly. I was focused more on the dogfighting.
Anyways, I would say my interest in RPGs happened because the adventure genre died off a bit during the end of the 90s. And RPGs were the next best thing.
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#3
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 08:12
What is it with big bros? Same thing happened to me, but it was about his garage band. He didn't know LoTR from Lucky Strikes, lol.My big bro was a jerk, and wouldn't let me hang with him.
I was the pusher in the family. I got my little sister hooked on AD&D. All my friends. My wife. And then my kids.
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#4
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 08:22
Started out playing Pong on a Comadore, then the MUDs, Avatar was my favorite, then a game call The 4th Coming when it was pay to play, Shaiya, Rifit, Dragon Age. Along with MUDs I played D&D with a boarding school group and we wrote a lot of our own computer games that never made beyond our little group but we had fun with them.
#5
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 09:04
We're almost similar, but not quite. I didn't start with the Hobbit. But those Choose Your Adventure books. I didn't play D&D as a kid.
Funnily enough, for all its success as a series, you're the only other person I "know" to have read the Choose Your Own Adventure books. Very few people I grew up with were interested in the adventure/fantasy genre. That meant that I couldn't play D&D either.
So after reading a few fantasy series (including LOTR etc), I started playing CRPGs. Realmz and Exile were my first games (I had a Mac), then after several years of more of the same, I played TES Morrowind and became more hooked if that were possible. Now DA and TES are my two favourite series.
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#6
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 09:12
Funnily enough, for all its success as a series, you're the only other person I "know" to have read the Choose Your Own Adventure books. Very few people I grew up with were interested in the adventure/fantasy genre. That meant that I couldn't play D&D either.
So after reading a few fantasy series (including LOTR etc), I started playing CRPGs. Realmz and Exile were my first games (I had a Mac), then after several years of more of the same, I played TES Morrowind and became more hooked if that were possible. Now DA and TES are my two favourite series.
Heh.. We might be in the same boat. I don't think I know anyone else either.
My first serious fantasy book wasn't fantasy, but sci-fi: Dune. But that kind of opened me up to fantasy. And I've always liked fantasy that's done like Dune. Full of intrigue and politics and such. I was hoping Inquisition would be like that or GoT, but it's still heavily in the direction of high fantasy.
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#7
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 09:12
Ronia the Robber's Daughter -> Harry Potter -> The Moonworlds Saga -> Septimus Heap | | Final Fantasy (diverse
) -> Xenoblade Chronicles (Wii) -> Dragon Age
Star Trek TNG -> Avatar (the movie with the blue aliens
) | | Star Ocean
many different Kung Fu movies owned by my dad | | Soul Calibur
I want to include Pokemon (my very first RPG) but there was no real influence why I got it in the first place, I just love collecting stuff and fighting with monsters ![]()
maybe later more xD
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#8
Posté 28 mai 2016 - 10:03
I remember enjoying Onimusha 3 as a kid as well, which I could say got me interested on some of the more edgier action games out there.
And of course, the original Medal of Honour and Call of Duty games got me into first person shooters.
As for role playing games, I'm not really sure where I started. It might have been Fallout 3.
But really, I play and have played a huge array of games since I started gaming which led me to play games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age. I remember picking up Dragon Age: Origins in my local GAME store with no clue as to what it would be like (I liked the cover art) and so I bought on that alone. I don't stick to one type of genre. That's like sticking to only one type of music. Sometimes, you just need something different.
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#9
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 12:27
Suikoden was the first RPG I ever played, and is responsible for a lot of what I like in games - political plots as opposed to magical end of world ones, big armies, castle/base which you grow throughout the game, large casts, 6 person team, etc.
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#10
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 04:52
For me, video games only(from what I remember
);
The Legend of Zelda > Final Fantasy 7/8/9 > Phantasy Star 4 > SaGa Frontier 2 > Warcraft 3 > Neverwinter Nights > World of Warcraft > Dragon Age Origins/Dragon Age 2 > Final Fantasy Type-0 > Dragon Age Inquisition > Final Fantasy XIV > Heroes of the Storm...
I like a lot of things, this is mainly what I like in my RPG experience. I love the multiple storylines best, SaGa Frontier 2 was fantastic in that aspect. I enjoyed DAO but was disappointed by the lack of variance in the endings. From gameplay Warcraft is the best, I love the fast paced action and wish Dragon Age was faster to respond to my orders.
#11
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 04:57
Uh..... yeah this is too hard for me.
I would just say D&D/Chainmail > D&D > Zelda (which I count as an RPG)/Bioware.... that's certainly been a trail of some kind, specifically the one that's brought me here.
#12
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 06:35
Ultima (Now called Ultima 1:the first age of Darkness) Is the earliest Game I can remember.
Ultima IV (Quest of the Avatar) is the biggest reason I can't do evil very well in games at all.
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#13
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 07:03
I don't have any kind of path. I just play games that I find fun. Early on it was mainly Nintendo. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mega Man. Then came Sega with the Sonic games and a few others. SNES was a continuation of the NES series. Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat. Breath of Fire, one or two Final Fantasy games. Then I also had PC games. Doom: Knee Deep in the Dead was the first. My main PC game was Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force. Many hours logged into its online multiplayer. For the PS2 I have all the GTAs, even the side stories. God of War as well as 2. The Silent Hill games. Some Naruto games. And now for PC I have the Dragon Age games. I may get more games in the near future, but I don't have as much time to play as I used to.
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#14
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 09:39
I don't know. I've always liked fantasy stories, and as a Dane you grow up listening to and reading H.C. Andersens fairytales and local legends of elves and pixies. In school you are taught Norse Mythology and in secondary you read the Icelandic sagas.
From there it's just a small leap into a more medieval setting in a game. The first games I spent a lot of time playing was Pokémon and Diablo 2. I never really played much wRPG's until Dragon Age: Origins, which I only purchased as a part of a deal to get Assassin's Creed 2. You don't really have a concept of genres and themes when you play games that are all English when you don't understand it.
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#15
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 06:41
Ronia the Robber's Daughter -> Harry Potter -> The Moonworlds Saga -> Septimus Heap | | Final Fantasy (diverse
) -> Xenoblade Chronicles (Wii) -> Dragon Age
Star Trek TNG -> Avatar (the movie with the blue aliens) | | Star Ocean
Spoiler
many different Kung Fu movies owned by my dad | | Soul Calibur
I want to include Pokemon (my very first RPG) but there was no real influence why I got it in the first place, I just love collecting stuff and fighting with monsters
maybe later more xD
Suikoden was the first RPG I ever played, and is responsible for a lot of what I like in games - political plots as opposed to magical end of world ones, big armies, castle/base which you grow throughout the game, large casts, 6 person team, etc.
Cool, I hadn't thought about JRPG's influence. I hadn't played JPRGs seriously until just recently. I missed all the FF and DQ that happened, so I'm pretty much a JRPG noob.
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#16
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 08:07
sometimes there is a specific path sometimes not really. "Planescape: Torment" and "Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines" are two of my favourite games ever and I cannot find a specific path there (in case of the latter, I don't even like vampire themes), maybe that's why they stand out so much
but that's ancient history hehe, as for more recent games:
post-apocalyptic/post-nuclear themes:
A Canticle for Leibowitz -> Deus Irae -> Damnation Alley --> Mad Max --> A Boy and His Dog --> Six String Samurai || => Fallout 1/2 => Fallout New Vegas
and cyberpunk themes:
Neuromancer -> Snow Crash --> Blade Runner || => Deus Ex series => Shadowrun Returns: Dragonfall (and super excited about the upcoming Deus Ex: Mankind Divided)
soft sci-fi:
Gateway --> Star Wars --> Firefly || => Wing Commander series => KOTOR 1/2 => Mass Effect series
Fantasy:
Tolkien -> The Belgariad -> The Riftwar Cycle || => Betrayal at Krondor => Arcanum => Neverwinter Nights 2 => Morrowind => Dragon Age series and The Witcher series
(books --> movies || games)
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#17
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 08:28
Cool, I hadn't thought about JRPG's influence. I hadn't played JPRGs seriously until just recently. I missed all the FF and DQ that happened, so I'm pretty much a JRPG noob.
Ha, I'm kinda the opposite. I played a ton of them back in the 90s, then sorta outgrew them. Suikoden was one of the the first games I ever played that actually had things like a plot/characterization, and wasn't just good vs evil, but a bit more nuanced. Looking back at it, I can see the flaws it has, but I was only 7-8 when I first played it and was completely mesmerised by it. The second one still has one of the greatest plots I've seen in a game.
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#18
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 08:29
Hmmm.... I'd say it would be ME1 for me, which is odd, but I played it as a kid and I loved it. Maybe that inspired me to play it again.... And maybe even DAO too.
#19
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 08:38
Cool, I hadn't thought about JRPG's influence. I hadn't played JPRGs seriously until just recently. I missed all the FF and DQ that happened, so I'm pretty much a JRPG noob.
Dragon Age was the first non JRPG I ever played and also first RPG I played on PC. ![]()
(tho I did play Summoner for PS2, but that game was so horrible
it put me off of non JRPGs for a long long time)
What I forgot to list was the Tales of series. I'd put it before the Star Ocean series, because of gameplay and artstyle, even tho it's more fantasy, than sci-fi fantasy. (I mean there is some sort of technology, but most of it is about magic)
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#20
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 09:21
Who would've thought reading Astrid Lindgren would make you end up here?Dragon Age was the first non JRPG I ever played and also first RPG I played on PC.
(tho I did play Summoner for PS2, but that game was so horribleit put me off of non JRPGs for a long long time)
I actually kind of liked Summoner (on PC), maybe because it was one of the first action-RPGs I encountered.
Otherwise pretty standard:
Tolkien - Swedish D&D - Lone Wolf-books - Champions of Krynn - Eye of the Beholder 1&2 - Planescape: Torment - DA
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#21
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 09:55
Who would've thought reading Astrid Lindgren would make you end up here?
I actually kind of liked Summoner (on PC), maybe because it was one of the first action-RPGs I encountered.
Otherwise pretty standard:
Tolkien - Swedish D&D - Lone Wolf-books - Champions of Krynn - Eye of the Beholder 1&2 - Planescape: Torment - DA
Not me, that's for sure ![]()
I got it after FFX (my first RPG on PS2) and just couldn't get into it. I had assumed, it'd be the same (a team, round based etc) and then it was not. ![]()
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#22
Posté 29 mai 2016 - 09:57
I should add that I stuck with Bioware because of Kotor. I didn't play BG (or Black Isle stuff like Torment) until later. Before that, it was mostly action or adventure games.
#23
Posté 30 mai 2016 - 12:55
I never got into pen and paper role playing games though. First computer RPG I really got into (other than old Zelda and Final Fantasy games) was Icewind Dale from Black Isle.
But I was more into horror and survival horror style games at the time, like Resident Evil and Silent Hill. And strategy games like Sid Meier's Civilization and Alpha Centauri. Oh yeah and adventure games like The Longest Journey.
Went through a MMORPG phase when World of Warcraft came out. A friend got me into Bioware at some point when they insisted I try KOTOR, and I loved it.
#24
Posté 30 mai 2016 - 01:32
Also gotta hand it to Jammit for being the best sports game I ever played
Got it for maybe 5 dollars at a used game store.... probably got about 150 hours of gameplay out of it, not bad.
I couldn't really trace that too much though.
Well it did least get to NBA Jam at least
#25
Posté 30 mai 2016 - 11:07
An interesting topic. I don't think I can plot paths. My interest in the relevant genres goes back to the early 1970s, and I've read more than 2000 books. Here are some significant milestones:
Science Fiction (years are when I read/watched/played them, not publication years):
Books and written material: Lensman Cycle (1972), Foundation Trilogy (1974), Perry Rhodan Series (1972-84), A Song for Lya (1977), Dune (197x-8x), Ender's Game (1986), The Amtrak Wars (1983-90), The Madness Season (199x), Night's Dawn Trilogy (1996-99), The Clan Chronicles (Julie Czerneda, 1997-present), A Second Chance at Eden (1999), This Alien Shore (200x), In Conquest Born (200x), Orion's Arm Universe Project (2007-present), Safehold series (2007-present), The Expanse (the novel series, 2012-present), Jean Le Flambeur series (2012-14).
TV and movies: The Time Machine (the 1960 movie, 1972), Soylent Green (197x), Silent Running (197x), Star Trek (TV only, 197x with long breaks, 199x with long breaks), Alien sequence (1980-), Star Wars (original trilogy, 1977-83), Blade Runner (198x), Dune (the 1984 movie, 1984), Total Recall (1990), Brazil (1995), Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (199x), The Matrix (2000), Equilibrium (2002), Minority Report (2002), Inception (2011)
Games: Elite (198x), Master of Orion 1 and 2 (199x), X-Wing /TIE FIghter (1993-4), Battle Isle: Shadow of the Emperor (199x), Jedi Knight (1996), Fallout 1-2 (1996-99), Deux Ex (1999), Alpha Centauri (2001), Knights of the Old Republic (200x), Fallout: New Vegas (2011), Mass Effect (2008-2013), Deus Ex Human Revolution (201x), Anno 2070 (201x), XCOM (2012 reboot, 2012-).
Fantasy (again, the years are the years I read/watched/played it, not publication years):
Books and written materials: Lord of the Rings (1980), The Birthgrave Series, The Wars of Vis, The Flat Earth Cycle (all by Tanith Lee, 198x), The Wars of Light and Shadow (1993-?), A Song of Ice and Fire (1996-?), Coldfire Trilogy (199x), Magister Trilogy (also by CS Friedman, 2007-12), Mistborn Trilogy (2006-201x), The Stormlight Archives (2010-, Raven's Shadow Trilogy (2013-15),
Movies: Lord of the Rings (2001-200x). I don't watch many fantasy movies, they never match my imagination.
Games: Faery Tale Adventure (198x), Blade of Destiny (199x), Myst series (1996-), Fantasy General (1996), Heroes of Might and Magic 3-5 (1999-2006), Zork Nemesis (1996), Thief 1 and 2 (1999-2001), Age of Wonders 1-3 (1999-2014), Baldur's Gate series (1998-2001), Planescape: Torment (1999), Spellforce 1 and expansions (2004-06), Dragon Age series (2009-), Thief (2014 reboot).
So I can count Bioware games as a significant influence within my fantasy gaming portfolio, but my experience of stories is still shaped way more by written fiction. With regard to SF, their excursion into that genre failed spectacularly as far as I'm concerned. It remains to be seen if they learned from that.
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