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My experience with the franchise is within the trilogy.

 

Why didn't we see any Asari living among their non-Asari parent's race?

 

A highly aggressive Asari kid would be suited for living on Tuchanka with her Krogan daddy.

 

The Alliance had a hard-on for biotics but didn't recruit Asari that were a byproduct of Human-Asari mating.

 

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Asari on Tuchanka is probably rare. Whatever the case. 

 

As for the Alliance, they probably didn't consider them to be human. As for more detailed Alliance citizenship question... No idea, I don't even know how taxes work for aliens working for or running bussinesventures in human space or for human majority ownership companies.

It's not been the focus of the game, we do know that human companies do hire aliens with the right qualifications. They look for competent workers, and hire them.

 

If there is a joint collonisation effort of a new galaxy then I expect the whole thing to be even more centralised. There will probably a new council for Andromeda and the old powerbalacne of the Milkyway will probably be out the window. It will be whatever the writers decide it will be.

 

Given the nature of the limited startup colonies, I'm sure that balance, will change over and over again as luck and fortunes comes and goes.


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I think because any asari whose father was a non-asari is still a full asari genetically, and is not considered a mixed race. And since they are fully asari, they are raised asari, and they identify themselves as asari - I haven't heard any asari who identified as a human, because her father was human. If you don't have anything to do with humans, you don't consider yourself human, you have no ties there - you wouldn't join the Alliance out of sheer patriotism, as even if you are an asari born from a human, you'd most likely face discrimination from the other humans.

 

And since the asari are the most advanced and the richest civilization out there, I guess most non-asari who had children with asari, applied for asari citizenship and now live on asari colonies with their families. So if the mother does not die or leaves the family for reasons unknown, it is safe to believe, that most would prefer to remain on the peacful asari worlds, as there is no real reason to move anywhere else.


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Tuchanka is a garbage dump full of krogan who want to kill each other that no one would want to live on willingly.  Really nothing to do with the race for that location.


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Probably the life expectancy of the other partner, well minus Krogan.



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Most Asari live for over a thousand year, most other non-asari parents die long before then. 



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We don't see any children except vent kid.
No adult Asari with human parents exists by the time of the original trilogy, because it takes more than 30 years for Asari to grow up.
Sane people don't choose to live on Tuchanka when they've got alternatives.
Choosing to live on the Migrant Fleet would be fairly odd too.
Unfortunately we don't really visit any civilian settlements of other races that I can think of, unless you count Omega.

So not much opportunity, really.
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My experience with the franchise is within the trilogy.
 
Why didn't we see any Asari living among their non-Asari parent's race?
 
A highly aggressive Asari kid would be suited for living on Tuchanka with her Krogan daddy.
 
The Alliance had a hard-on for biotics but didn't recruit Asari that were a byproduct of Human-Asari mating.
 
etc


No one is well suited to Tuchanka. The genophage reduced the Krogan birthrate to pre-uplift levels. That's how bad Tuchanka sucks. Only the Krogan can hack it, and that's if they aren't doing their best to anhililate one another.

The Alliance is for humans, not for Asari. As Taki17 pointed out, Asari are always 100% Asari. They aren't "half-human" or "half-krogan", or whatever else. As Liara once said, "that's not how it works". They don't create hybrids. If they did, they'd quickly go extinct.

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I'd be pretty surprised if the Alliance did start turning down Asari with human parents who were raised on earth or other human planets, who wanted to serve in the Alliance military.

But such people are essentially impossible so far, bar adoption. First contact is too recent.
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Exactly. The trilogy was set in the infancy of humanity's entry into galactic society. I think many fans forget that, because the species and setting became so familiar. Less than 4 years passed from those tense times at the beginning of ME until the end of ME3. Humanity rose rapidly, and stepped on a lot of toes. That story/conflict/tension only went to the back burner because of the Reaper War.

With MEA, we'll see what happens. Much will depend upon the launch point for the story. What is the historical starting point for the societies? Maybe a lot of time has passed and much has changed. I don't think too much will have changed, since the setting must stay recognizable in tone, and we've been told this is a story about finding "humanity" a new home.

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How long is asari childhood? Do they mature at the we same pace as say a human then slow the aging process at physical adulthood? If not then pubescence could be decades long prospect. If that is so, then that could go a long way to explain why. A decade of terrible twos? 30 years of teenaged angst? No thanks. Not in my house.

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How long is asari childhood? Do they mature at the we same pace as say a human then slow the aging process at physical adulthood? If not then pubescence could be decades long prospect. If that is so, then that could go a long way to explain why. A decade of terrible twos? 30 years of teenaged angst? No thanks. Not in my house.


We don't really know how Asari childhood works, but full adulthood seems to be considered around 50. IIRC Morinth running away at 40 is considered young, there's some dialogue about an Asari moving out of their parent's house at 60, Liara has been working as an archeologist since around then.

But what, say, a 30 year old Asari is actually like I don't think we have any idea about. It seems like it could be interesting to take a look at, if done right.

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Ereba I think her name was. If you made her hook up with Charr you'd see why there were no Asari on Tuchanka.

Ereba: It's dirty...

Chart: Naww, that builds character.

Wrex: Tuchanka maybe a pile of radioactive rubble. But its our pile.

Grunt: This is the great Krogan homeworld?.......This hunk of rock is barely worth standing on!

Tali: The Krogan destroyed their own planet...

Wiks: Somewhere along the line the Krogan got it into their heads that nuclear war might be fun. Sometimes it is.

Also, the Krogan shoot down alien ships in their atmosphere and having Asari around on a planet full of infertile females might be counter productive to repopulating anyway.

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I'd be pretty surprised if the Alliance did start turning down Asari with human parents who were raised on earth or other human planets, who wanted to serve in the Alliance military.But such people are essentially impossible so far, bar adoption. First contact is too recent.


I'd imagine aliens would be allowed to serve in the Alliance military, so long as they were able to subsist on human rations and didn't require special equipment. (Quarians would be out)

Many modern militaries allow foreigners to serve, so I can't imagine that would be different in the ME universe. The only difference is that foreign would mean alien.

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If the convo betweeen Ereba and Char on Tuchanka is selected more than one, Char iis able to convince Ereba to stay on Tuchanka, although she is clearly not happy about it.  However, in ME3, Ereba is working on the Citadel and Char dies in combat on Utuku... so their "flower" (i.e. child) will be raised by Ereba.  In ME3, we also hear a human parent arranging to send her daughter to her Asari partner's family to be looked after while she is fighting Reapers.

 

These are the only two indications that I am aware of as to how the raising of children who are born from Asari and non-Asari parents.  As indicated, they will always appear to be fully Asari anyways.  It is Ereba who tells Shepard that in ME2 when discussing her relationship with Char on Ilium.

 

In ME1, Liara does state that she is "only 106" and she also indicates that she is "considered little more than a child."  Samara's daughter ran off at 40 and Samara says that is young to be on her own... As a result, I think that the presented "age of maturity" of Asari actually changed between ME1 and ME2.

 

Overall, I believe that Bioware's timelines/lifespans, etc. for the Trilogy are perfectly consistent throughout the 3 games.



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Amazing... all this time, and I'd never even heard of Ereba and Charr appearing on Tuchanka.

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Amazing... all this time, and I'd never even heard of Ereba and Charr appearing on Tuchanka.


Go back after finishing Mordin and Grunt's missions, and after you get Ereba and Charr together. You'll see them on Tuchanka.
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In ME1, Liara does state that she is "only 106" and she also indicates that she is "considered little more than a child." Samara's daughter ran off at 40 and Samara says that is young to be on her own... As a result, I think that the presented "age of maturity" of Asari actually changed between ME1 and ME2.

Overall, I believe that Bioware's timelines/lifespans, etc. for the Trilogy are perfectly consistent throughout the 3 games.

Bioware was actually rather consistent with the Asari life stages throughout the trilogy. For example Liara states in ME1 that she had spent 50 years working as an archaeologist, which puts her in her 50s when finishes university and starts a career. That establishes at least the early 50s, if not slightly earlier, for the timeframe for when Asari reach adulthood. Morinth ran off in her 40s, but Samara also uses language that could imply she was the Asari equivalent of a teen runaway.

Liara's dialogue referring to her relative youth in ME1 has been frequently misunderstood by fans. Stating that she was "only" 106 was just a way for the writers to highlight how long-lived the Asari were, and how the perception of time would be vastly different for them. When Liara states that she is considered little more than a child she isn't saying that she is a child (her phrasing implies the opposite in fact), but that matriarch scientists that have been poking around in Prothean ruins for centuries don't take her research and publications seriously, because of her relative youth and inexperience. Like the dialogue where Liara says she's only 106, the writers were establishing cultural differences between a long-lived species and humanity, and were giving Liara a background as something of an outsider in the Asari scientific community. They weren't however, establishing her as a character that hadn't yet reached adulthood.
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Bioware was actually rather consistent with the Asari life stages throughout the trilogy. For example Liara states in ME1 that she had spent 50 years working as an archaeologist, which puts her in her 50s when finishes university and starts a career. That establishes at least the early 50s, if not slightly earlier, for the timeframe for when Asari reach adulthood. Morinth ran off in her 40s, but Samara also uses language that could imply she was the Asari equivalent of a teen runaway.

Liara's dialogue referring to her relative youth in ME1 has been frequently misunderstood by fans. Stating that she was "only" 106 was just a way for the writers to highlight how long-lived the Asari were, and how the perception of time would be vastly different for them. When Liara states that she is considered little more than a child she isn't saying that she is a child (her phrasing implies the opposite in fact), but that matriarch scientists that have been poking around in Prothean ruins for centuries don't take her research and publications seriously, because of her relative youth and inexperience. Like the dialogue where Liara says she's only 106, the writers were establishing cultural differences between a long-lived species and humanity, and were giving Liara a background as something of an outsider in the Asari scientific community. They weren't however, establishing her as a character that hadn't yet reached adulthood.

 

The statement that is inconsistent is the one where she says she is "considered little more than a child" at 106.  This statement would put the maturation timeline more propotionate with the current human timeline - i.e. that about 10% to 15% of her lifespan had gone by (i.e. age 10 to 15 in human terms). Getting her degree and studying the Protheans for 50 years indicates that she should have been considered a young adult (or perhaps little more than a teenager at that point).  I think that Bioware changed their minds about Asari maturation at some point... and just "forgot" to adjust Liara's line accordingly.



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The statement that is inconsistent is the one where she says she is "considered little more than a child" at 106. This statement would put the maturation timeline more propotionate with the current human timeline - i.e. that about 10% to 15% of her lifespan had gone by (i.e. age 10 to 15 in human terms). Getting her degree and studying the Protheans for 50 years indicates that she should have been considered a young adult (or perhaps little more than a teenager at that point).

A child is a person below the legal age of majority. That includes teens in most cultures, even though they don't like to think of themselves as children.

Liara's dialogue was just saying that she's barely considered an adult, as in she's a very young adult who isn't taken seriously by the matrons and matriarchs.

The rate at which species age can vary between species and life stages, so it is possible that it takes longer for the Asari to reach middle age from young adulthood, than it took for them to reach adulthood from birth. It may not also line up exactly with humans in terms of percentage of average lifespan left.
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Go back after finishing Mordin and Grunt's missions, and after you get Ereba and Charr together. You'll see them on Tuchanka.


Ah, that explains it. I don't think I ever have gone back after wrapping up there.

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Well, unless they are krogan, the bondmate probably dies before the asari reaches maturity. We heard from Samara that 40 is considered childhood, and Liara only just has her doctorate when she's 106. Humans are about 150, but they are galactic newcomers and probably are very isolated with other humans. 

 

Plus, the only "homeworlds" we see are the krogan, who are pariahs, and the Citadel/Omega, which are extremely mixed race. Perhaps if we had time on Sur'Kesh that wasn't just at an STG base, we'd have seen it, asari on Palaven might have trouble because of the food thing. 



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Ah, that explains it. I don't think I ever have gone back after wrapping up there.


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I'd imagine aliens would be allowed to serve in the Alliance military, so long as they were able to subsist on human rations and didn't require special equipment. (Quarians would be out)

Many modern militaries allow foreigners to serve, so I can't imagine that would be different in the ME universe. The only difference is that foreign would mean alien.

Yes, French Foreign Legion.

 

Countries love it when non-citizens are willing to fight for them.  The US offers citizenship to legal aliens that serve.



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It's very strange that we didn't see any alien race immigrants on Thessia.

 

Since Asari are heavily encouraged to mate with Aliens, an Alien immigrant on Thessia would see their value as a mate skyrocket.

 

The cherry on top is how Asari often only need one parent.  Alien immigrants can live on Thessia and bang tons of different Asaris.

 

Besides, who wouldn't want to live among the most developed race in the galaxy.  Some comparisons:

 

Human culture is intense and stressful.

 

Turian culture is rigid and stern.

 

Quarian culture burdens down its people with responsibilities to the fleet.

 

Krogan culture increases your chances of dying very early.