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[Zoltanrises]

I have been a fan of Bioware since their 1st game and have played them all. They have been the industry leaders in Gaming and love all their work.

For the future a little advice from me and anyone else who agrees, Life has enough loss, trauma and death, and for this reason we could use more happy endings in this crazy chaotic world. Even though there are some super creative people writing at Bioware and i did pick-up on some very existential happy endings, but would still want something more concrete.

 

Just a thought...

 

Have a Wonderful Day

[Dalakaar]

Nope.

 

Our quest is vain.

 

We're all doomed.

[Cyonan]

The happy ending I would be interested in involves Kasumi, which I never got to have.

 

Although in general it's kind of boring when you beat the bad guys while saving everybody who was important enough to be given a name and isn't just a redshirt.

[Jedi Comedian]

Sorry, not 4 me. Chaos, tragedy, darkness, this is the stuff I'm into.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

The happy ending I would be interested in involves Kasumi, which I never got to have.
 
Although in general it's kind of boring when you beat the bad guys while saving everybody who was important enough to be given a name and isn't just a redshirt.

Agreed on both points. That's why the Suicide Mission in ME2 was so interesting the first time or two, unless you peached out and looked up a guide online, you had a very high chance of losing someone along the way.

And Kasumi is just fantastic.

[Onewomanarmy]

I guess doom it is then.....

[Dalakaar]

I guess doom it is then.....

That's the spirit.

 

When everyone else is running away from the banshee I'm running towards it.

[Jedi Comedian]

That's the spirit.

When everyone else is running away from the banshee I'm running towards it.

Now THAT'S the spirit.

[Squinterific]

All of that just to say you want a happy ending

[UpUpAway]

I have been a fan of Bioware since their 1st game and have played them all. They have been the industry leaders in Gaming and love all their work.

For the future a little advice from me and anyone else who agrees, Life has enough loss, trauma and death, and for this reason we could use more happy endings in this crazy chaotic world. Even though there are some super creative people writing at Bioware and i did pick-up on some very existential happy endings, but would still want something more concrete.

 

Just a thought...

 

Have a Wonderful Day

 

Translation:  Alas, poor BioWare! I knew them, BSN, a company of infinite industry, of most excellent fancy. They hath borne me through a thousand playthroughs, and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. —Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now to mock your own grinning? Quite chapfallen? Now get you to my lady’s chamber and tell her, let her paint an inch thick, to this favor she must come. Make her laugh at that.—Prithee, BSN tell me one thing.

 

... but it matters not to me (and my apologies to Shakespeare... I just couldn't resist).

[ZipZap2000]

Quit living in the past Marge.

[ZipZap2000]

All of that just to say you want a happy ending

Happy ending cost extra.

[niniendowarrior]

Happy ending cost extra.

As a $70 DLC.

[ZipZap2000]

As a $70 DLC.

I was talking about Sha'ira.

[BioWareM0d13]

It really depends on the story being told. The tone of the ending needs to mesh well with everything that came before it, and a sunshine and rainbows ending isn't going to be a good fit for every story.

ME3 is a good example of that. A super happy ending would have been out of sync with the story that preceded it. Fans of MEHEM will no doubt disagree, but I thought that modded ending was even worse than the terrible one that shipped with the game.

[Ascari]

It really depends on the story being told. The tone of the ending needs to mesh well with everything that came before it, and a sunshine and rainbows ending isn't going to be a good fit for every story.

ME3 is a good example of that. A super happy ending would have been out of sync with the story that preceded it. Fans of MEHEM will no doubt disagree, but I thought that modded ending was even worse than the terrible one that shipped with the game.

I thought I was the only one who prefers the OG extended cut ending over the cheesy MEHEM

[KaiserShep]

Agreed on both points. That's why the Suicide Mission in ME2 was so interesting the first time or two, unless you peached out and looked up a guide online, you had a very high chance of losing someone along the way.

And Kasumi is just fantastic.

 

I dunno. ME2 was pretty blatant in flagging its points of no return, like that Miranda and Jacob argument regarding going to get the IFF. Right there it was like a sign in lights saying "Do everything else first". 

 

As for figuring out who does what, it seemed pretty obvious there too, particularly the vent and biotic bubble. I didn't look up any guides, but the game seemed pretty forgiving, since it generally averaged up so you had a fair number of options for each role. I've sent Mordin, Samara, Zaeed and Tali to escort the crew so far and they can all do it with zero incident. 

[mrjack]

I use JAM. It's just one extra scene of Shepard on the Normandy putting Anderson's name on the wall and a hug with your LI, assuming you got the breath scene. It's nothing fancy but it's a bit more uplifting and barely strays from the canon ending.

 

That said, I can't believe all the work MrFob put into MEHEM. It's an excellent mod and it came out when the tools couldn't do half the things that they can now and I wouldn't have my preferred ending mod without it.

 

As for the ending to MEA, I doubt the ending to the first one will be grimdark and I hope they don't go in that direction. After playing an ME game and all it's emotional rollercoasters, I don't really want to end on a sour note.

 

All of that said, I don't hate the original endings, I just don't particularly like them. Control is the worst because Shepard becomes... something... some immortal machine god or something and the monologue creeps me the f--k out. It's like it's not even Shepard any more. Synthesis is pretty uplifting. I'm an EDI fan and I like that she has found this sort of transcendence with the rest of the sentient species of the galaxy and I love the first line of her monologue "I am alive!". Still, I'm a sucker for Destroy and Shep ending up back with his friends and loved ones. I feel like he deserved it after the last three years. Listening to Hackett drone on doesn't exactly feel me with hope though. "We will rebuild." Will we? You don't sound too enthusiastic about the idea...

[Teabaggin Krogan]

I thought I was the only one who prefers the OG extended cut ending over the cheesy MEHEM

 

I must be pretty behind on the Sp side of things because I just found about this MEHEM when you mentioned it here. And it looks like it's all sunshine and rainbows from the mod description. Don't get me wrong, I like happy endings a lot but I respect the writers freedom to end the story as they see fit even if it was a crappy ending. All this clamoring for a happy ending reminds me of the movie Misery which seems to have an amusingly similar theme.

[Gileadan]

It really depends on the story being told. The tone of the ending needs to mesh well with everything that came before it, and a sunshine and rainbows ending isn't going to be a good fit for every story.

ME3 is a good example of that. A super happy ending would have been out of sync with the story that preceded it. Fans of MEHEM will no doubt disagree, but I thought that modded ending was even worse than the terrible one that shipped with the game.

I've been thinking about that for a while... could the reason actually be ME3's failure to properly portray the loss of billions of lives throughout the galaxy? Even if Shepard and all companions die, in the grand scale of things that means the overall gigantic death count goes up by a dozen. A drip in the ocean.

ME3 never truly gave me a sense of a galactic apocalypse and the loss of life that entailed. We look at Palaven from its moon and are told how terrible everything is. A nasty reaper shoots down a shuttle with a kid on board. I've seen WW2 movies - a conflict obviously so much smaller in scale than a reaper invasion - that felt more like the end of the world.

And in the end, the reapers die. We will rebuild! Or the reapers serve us now. Or they help green cyber-grannies to cross the street. Loss of life? Yeah, we'll get over that.

That is what makes the ending happier than it should be, I think. Not a dozen less casualties.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Writing that doesn't please everyone is one thing. Blatant incompetence and disregard for canon previously set in stone is unforgivable.

 

Look at what that idiot Brad Kern did to Charmed.

[mrjack]

Writing that doesn't please everyone is one thing. Blatant incompetence and disregard for canon previously set in stone is unforgivable.

 

Look at what that idiot Brad Kern did to Charmed.

 

What did he do? I used to love that show.

[Onewomanarmy]

That's the spirit.

 

When everyone else is running away from the banshee I'm running towards it.

 

Somehow those banshees love me, they always choose me out of everyone lol. I hate them!!! I admit I run away screaming like a little girl whenever I see one haha, only if I feel like committing suicide do I run towards them to die an epic death!! But then ofc they don't want me...... 

[KamuiStorm]

Happy endings are nice but in video games you don't want a happy ending. Hell, you don't want an ending in General. When an ending occurs it should be filled with fallout. If you kill people, aliens, civilizations, you need an ending that reflects the fallout of the story's actions.

[BloodyMares]

I don't care about happy endings or tragic endings or "bittersweet" endings. I trust the writers to tell their story. The only thing that matters is a good quality writing. If the writer can't comprehend what the hell they are writing about then the story doesn't make sense and it is x1000 times worse than having an ending where everything dies. Not everyone deserves a happy ending but we all deserve a coherent and consistent story from the beginning to the end.