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Am I the only one who thinks that Cassandra is too old to be the love interest for many Inquisitors ?

 

She is born on 9:03 - 9:04 Dragon. Inquisition takes places on 9:41 Dragon. This means that Cassandra is either 37 or 38 years old. By the time the Inquisition story ends in Trespasser, it would have been 9:44 Dragon which means at the end of Trespasser, Cassandra will be either 40 or 41 years old.

 

According to Patrick Weekes, an Inquisitor could be "anywhere from mid-twenties to mid-forties without any plausibility issues."

 

The Inquisitors that would be suitable for Cassandra age wise would be in their mid 30s and above, unless your Inquisitor is into robbing the cradle cougars.

 

I play my Inquisitors in their mid-20s or late-20s and yeah, the prospect of your character romancing a woman nearly 10+ years older than him is just weird.

 

Thoughts ?

 

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http://dragonage.wik...ndra_Pentaghast

http://dragonage.wik...e_(time_period)

http://dragonaging.t...the-inquisitors



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I think this is just a matter of personal preference. Many issues with age difference would probably depend on maturity level, and if the Inquisitor is mature enough to save Thedas from supernatural demon spewing holes in the sky, while simultaneously building and molding political powers - I would hope Cass doesn't think 'pfft...you're too young for me."


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For humans, the game was more openended before. Then the merc/smuggler stuff was given to other races. Those are still open ended as far as age goes. These newer human backstories make it difficult imo. I can't do it with a warrior or someone trained to be a Templar...since they don't know anything about being Templars. Which tells me that they're young.

 

I also think it was stupid just because stats show the average gamer ages are around 31. Both men and women. All the origins should reflect this better. Instead they thought most players wanted to be the "youngest" noble child... like some teenager, who hasn't had any professional life.

 

As far as real age differences go, it's not that appealing to me. Girls 10 years younger than me bore me. It's much different when you're 60 and they're 50.. but not at these younger ages.



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Just imagine your IQ is in his early thirties, what's the problem?   I like seeing someone a little older and wiser with a rich history being represented, better than 'the world is always saved by a bunch of 19 year olds'.


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*shrug*

 

It's a personal preference thing. My Inquisitor is fifteen years younger than Blackwall, but they're perfect together. Don't see any difference between that and romancing Cassandra with a mid-twenties Inquisitor. And any Lavellan is automatically centuries younger than Solas! Age gaps can cause problems in relationships, sure, but that doesn't mean that nobody ever bridges the gap. If both people are adults, I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

(I haven't actually played Cassandra's romance yet. Planning for the PC to be around forty when I do, though, just because my other Dalish elf was very young and I'd like some contrast.)


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Just imagine your IQ is in his early thirties, what's the problem?   I like seeing someone a little older and wiser with a rich history being represented, better than 'the world is always saved by a bunch of 19 year olds'.

 

I think you can imagine it... they just screwed one angle for humans up. 

 

But agreed. The 19 yr old fantasy hero needs to die already.


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Just imagine your IQ is in his early thirties, what's the problem?   I like seeing someone a little older and wiser with a rich history being represented, better than 'the world is always saved by a bunch of 19 year olds'.

 

I like to play characters on the younger side, it justifies them being a Level 1 newbie who has to train.


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I think you can imagine it... they just screwed one angle for humans up. 

 

But agreed. The 19 yr old fantasy hero needs to die already.

 

They did?  What did they screw up?



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I like to play characters on the younger side, it justifies them being a Level 1 newbie who has to train.

 

Eh, I'm in my early thirties.  If there was a zombie apocalypse and I became the chosen one, trust me, I'd be a level 1 noob who'd have to train.  :lol:


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They did?  What did they screw up?

 

What I said above. I find it hard to think a 30+ year old given to the Chantry as a warrior wouldn't know anything about Templars. They're just as ignorant as other characters. Which tells me they're fresh faced and young.

 

Chantry Bro/Sis works, but they wouldn't be Temps necessarily. That's what I ended up doing.


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*shrug*

 

It's a personal preference thing. My Inquisitor is fifteen years younger than Blackwall, but they're perfect together. Don't see any difference between that and romancing Cassandra with a mid-twenties Inquisitor. And any Lavellan is automatically centuries younger than Solas! Age gaps can cause problems in relationships, sure, but that doesn't mean that nobody ever bridges the gap. If both people are adults, I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

(I haven't actually played Cassandra's romance yet. Planning for the PC to be around forty when I do, though, just because my other Dalish elf was very young and I'd like some contrast.)

 

Its not easy to make an old Elf in Dragon Age. Elves just look perpetually young somehow, probably due to their biology. For example, Fiona is supposed to an old Elf but she looks like a woman in her late 20s. Even Solas who is centuries old does not look old and wrinkled. Heck, Ameridan is 800+ years old and the most he had to show for that was some minor forehead wrinkles.


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Uh, not everybody wants to play a young hero.

Besides, like it's been said before. Personal preferences. Some people like them older.

It's a non-issue..
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What I said above. I find it hard to think a 30+ year old given to the Chantry as a warrior wouldn't know anything about Templars. They're just as ignorant as other characters. Which tells me they're fresh faced and young.

 

Chantry Bro/Sis works, but they wouldn't be Temps necessarily. That's what I ended up doing.

 

This. the RPG characters we have in many RPG games start out as ignorant newbies. That's not something you expect from a 30+ year old person. Sure they can be newbies skill wise, but they shouldn't be ignorant.


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This. the RPG characters we have in many RPG games start out as ignorant newbies. That's not something you expect from a 30+ year old person. Sure they can be newbies skill wise, but they shouldn't be ignorant.

 

I try to give some of that a slide, but I fiind it particularly hard with a Templar. A circle mage or some Chantry cleric is fine. I kind of made my dude an Indiana Jones type. He hunts down relics. That's enough to give him combat experience, but not worldly experience. He's not the typical type of Rogue I'd prefer to play (I'd rather be the smuggler).



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What I said above. I find it hard to think a 30+ year old given to the Chantry as a warrior wouldn't know anything about Templars. They're just as ignorant as other characters. Which tells me they're fresh faced and young.

 

Chantry Bro/Sis works, but they wouldn't be Temps necessarily. That's what I ended up doing.

 

Oh I see, I've only been a dwarf so far so I didn't know that.  When I do romance Cass it'll be as a Qunari.

 

That takes some headcanoning to work around...



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Oh I see, I've only been a dwarf so far so I didn't know that.  When I do romance Cass it'll be as a Qunari.

 

That takes some headcanoning to work around...

 

Bleh, Qunari :P

 

Too silly for me. I keep thinking of Grape Ape from those kid's cartoons. She deserves better. Maybe if they looked as cool as the females.


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I don't mind of Cassandra being older then the Inquisitor maybe the Inquisitor can learn something from her when it comes to the romance options ;).

 

And she still looks good i never would have thought that she was in her late thirties  :huh:.   


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Hmm, personally I'm glad they made the cast somewhat older this time. The Inquisitor can be older too, even though as straykat said, the human noble backstory has them kind of young.

As far as starting off at level one and training. I consider that part of gameplay/story segregation at this point. Starting off as a young, inexperienced level one character is an RPG convention, but I really don't headcanon that my Dalish Keeper apprentice is really just learning an ice spell for the very first time, for instance. The training is for the player, mostly.

I prefer for them to keep the protagonist age vague, as much as possible, and have a mix of companions/NPCs, personally. Sera is supposed to be young. So is Cole (for a spirit, I guess).
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Seems fine to me. She's not even the oldest, so she seems a strange option for you to choose to complain about.


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Age is a number. I don't have a problem with Cass being a romance.


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Regarding Cassandra's age, you do have to consider that people in that setting grow up sooner than we do in the real world. I don't think the age difference is that big a deal.

 

What I said above. I find it hard to think a 30+ year old given to the Chantry as a warrior wouldn't know anything about Templars. They're just as ignorant as other characters. Which tells me they're fresh faced and young.
 
Chantry Bro/Sis works, but they wouldn't be Temps necessarily. That's what I ended up doing.

 
I just wanted to weigh in since I play a human warrior (SnS) who is in fact 30 at the start of DAI.
 
The ONLY thing the Trevelyan non-mage codex says is (emphasis added),

The Trevelyans are nobility from Ostwick, a city-state on the southern coast of the Free Marches. It is an old and distinguished family, in good standing among its peers, and with strong ties to the Chantry. Its youngest sons and daughters—those third- or fourth-born children with little chance of becoming heirs—often join the Chantry to become templars or clerics. As the youngest child, Lord/Lady [Player name] Trevelyan was expected to follow suit... until the disaster at the Conclave.
 
[Player name] was present at the Temple of Sacred Ashes as a representative of his/her family's interests, along with other distant relatives in the Chantry. He/She was the only survivor at the temple after the explosion. Rumors that the mysterious mark on his/her hand is a sign of the Maker's favor were spread by those who claim they saw the divine prophet, Andraste herself, lead Lord/Lady [Player name] out of the Fade.

 
It does NOT say that you are definitely part of the Chantry, or that a non-mage has already been sent to the templars. As far as I'm concerned, the player can headcanon that in any way they wish, just as you did. I have a headcanon to explain it that I'm satisfied with. This is one reason I like that the DAI origins are so vague, because you can have a more loose interpretation.
 
We also have the example of Sebastian, who appears to have had a misspent youth, sowed his wild oats, and so on, before he was given to the Chantry.

However, I will say that even a non-mage Trevelyan in these circumstances should know more about the templars since, presumably, they have had other family members who are templars. There is also a disconnect with some of the questions that you are able to ask Giselle. But we know why those questions are there, don't we? They're there for the new player who has no knowledge, or for roleplay purposes. You don't HAVE to take those questions if you want your character to be more familiar with the templars (or mages, or Dalish lore, or whatever else). I'd argue that being selective in the investigate options is also a part of roleplay.
 
You could also look at it in another way, which is that the PC has a broad, general knowledge of the templars, but not the more Order-specific things, like details about lyrium addiction and so on, which appears to be something that is not widely discussed outside of the Order.


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I'd say maturity level matters more than age. 


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What I said above. I find it hard to think a 30+ year old given to the Chantry as a warrior wouldn't know anything about Templars. They're just as ignorant as other characters. Which tells me they're fresh faced and young.

 

Chantry Bro/Sis works, but they wouldn't be Temps necessarily. That's what I ended up doing.

Let's not even mention the Dalish Inquisitor,a 30 year+ dalish elf who doesn't know who Mythal is......


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she is special enough that age doesn't really matter. 

Cass and Leli were the only Shemlen good enough for my elf protagonists, so that says a lot :)



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I don't mind of Cassandra being older then the Inquisitor maybe the Inquisitor can learn something from her when it comes to the romance options ;).

 

And she still looks good i never would have thought that she was in her late thirties  :huh:.   

 

Doubt it. She is pious woman who only had a relationship with one guy before. She is no Leliana who learned seduction techniques as part of her Bard training and had to perform Black Widow-esque assassinations and she is no Isabela who has slept with pretty much every kind of person out there. Doesn't mean that's a bad thing though.


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