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[Bayonet Hipshot]

Let's not even mention the Dalish Inquisitor,a 30 year+ dalish elf who doesn't know who Mythal is......

 

It gets worse if you play a 30 year+ old Dalish Elf mage who is the First and he doesn't know who Mythal is. Smh.

[xxQUANTUMxx]

It gets worse if you play a 30 year+ old Dalish Elf mage who is the First and he doesn't know who Mythal is. Smh.

 

 

Let's not even mention the Dalish Inquisitor,a 30 year+ dalish elf who doesn't know who Mythal is......

 

 

Pretty sure that's just a dialogue mechanic for people who've never played DA before and to get introduced to plot specific Lore...

[straykat]

Regarding Cassandra's age, you do have to consider that people in that setting grow up sooner than we do in the real world. I don't think the age difference is that big a deal.

 

 
I just wanted to weigh in since I play a human warrior (SnS) who is in fact 30 at the start of DAI.
 
The ONLY thing the Trevelyan non-mage codex says is (emphasis added),

 
It does NOT say that you are definitely part of the Chantry, or that a non-mage has already been sent to the templars. As far as I'm concerned, the player can headcanon that in any way they wish, just as you did. I have a headcanon to explain it that I'm satisfied with. This is one reason I like that the DAI origins are so vague, because you can have a more loose interpretation.
 
We also have the example of Sebastian, who appears to have had a misspent youth, sowed his wild oats, and so on, before he was given to the Chantry.

However, I will say that even a non-mage Trevelyan in these circumstances should know more about the templars since, presumably, they have had other family members who are templars. There is also a disconnect with some of the questions that you are able to ask Giselle. But we know why those questions are there, don't we? They're there for the new player who has no knowledge, or for roleplay purposes. You don't HAVE to take those questions if you want your character to be more familiar with the templars (or mages, or Dalish lore, or whatever else). I'd argue that being selective in the investigate options is also a part of roleplay.
 
You could also look at it in another way, which is that the PC has a broad, general knowledge of the templars, but not the more Order-specific things, like details about lyrium addiction and so on, which appears to be something that is not widely discussed outside of the Order.

 

You didn't have to write all of that, but cool. I know there's workarounds. It just could've been a lot better. 

 

It doesn't even matter apparently. I asked Gaider once and he just said to make up everything yourself. Sounds like a TES game.. and a far cry from what I expected.. but there ya go.

[Andromelek]

Are we seriously speaking of this? What's the problem with Cass? Solas is the one who is about a thousand years old and nobody lost the head about it, there are a lot of persons in Thedas that are quite old and still look attractive.

[straykat]

Are we seriously speaking of this? What's the problem with Cass? Solas is the one who is about a thousand years old and nobody lost the head about it, there is a lot of persons in Thedas that are quite old and still look attractive.

 

She's not even that old. She's my age actually.

 

The problem is some Inquisitors. Not her.

[mgagne]

Most of the advisors and companions (bar Solas, Bull & Cole) range from their early 30s to their early 40s.  I tried Bull once for the SM angle, which was amusing - once.  I don't bother recruiting him anymore - he's too weak a warrior.  I tried Dorian once, but he's too stereotypical - besides I can't stand beards or mustaches.  I have yet to roll an older mage for Cassandra, she deserves a good man, even though hetero romance is not really appealing.  Sera is an annoying character and far too immature for any meaningful romance.  Blackwall is old and has a beard so no.  Jospephine still plays with dolls when no one is looking FFS - so no.  As for Solas, I tried with a female elf once but got bored with his cold fish attitude.  The one I really wanted to romance was Cole but he wasn't made available.

 

So I usually end up romancing Cullen with the bi Cullen mod and my Inquisitors are typically in their early to mid 20s - which is a pretty standard age pairing among gays.

[nightscrawl]

You didn't have to write all of that, but cool. I know there's workarounds. It just could've been a lot better. 

 

It doesn't even matter apparently. I asked Gaider once and he just said to make up everything yourself. Sounds like a TES game.. and a far cry from what I expected.. but there ya go.

 

That is my preference: for the origin to be as vague as possible. Though yes, I do get that it isn't for everyone.

[straykat]

That is my preference: for the origin to be as vague as possible. Though yes, I do get that it isn't for everyone.

 

If that was my preference, I'd be playing TES more to begin with.

 

Origins in DAO are still one of the most talked about features. And DA2 is practicaly a long origin story. So why did this feature just pop up? That's what annoys me.

[ArcadiaGrey]

However, I will say that even a non-mage Trevelyan in these circumstances should know more about the templars since, presumably, they have had other family members who are templars. There is also a disconnect with some of the questions that you are able to ask Giselle. But we know why those questions are there, don't we? They're there for the new player who has no knowledge, or for roleplay purposes. You don't HAVE to take those questions if you want your character to be more familiar with the templars (or mages, or Dalish lore, or whatever else). I'd argue that being selective in the investigate options is also a part of roleplay.

 
You could also look at it in another way, which is that the PC has a broad, general knowledge of the templars, but not the more Order-specific things, like details about lyrium addiction and so on, which appears to be something that is not widely discussed outside of the Order.

 

Ah so asking about the Templars is optional dialogue then.  So in that case you can take it or not, and roleplay a character who already knows about it all? 

 

That doesn't read to me as a flaw in the lore, just as an option for new players or naive Inquisitors.

[ArcadiaGrey]

Most of the advisors and companions (bar Solas, Bull & Cole) range from their early 30s to their early 40s.  I tried Bull once for the SM angle, which was amusing - once.  I don't bother recruiting him anymore - he's too weak a warrior.  I tried Dorian once, but he's too stereotypical - besides I can't stand beards or mustaches.  I have yet to roll an older mage for Cassandra, she deserves a good man, even though hetero romance is not really appealing.  Sera is an annoying character and far too immature for any meaningful romance.  Blackwall is old and has a beard so no.  Jospephine still plays with dolls when no one is looking FFS - so no.  As for Solas, I tried with a female elf once but got bored with his cold fish attitude.  The one I really wanted to romance was Cole but he wasn't made available.

 

So I usually end up romancing Cullen with the bi Cullen mod and my Inquisitors are typically in their early to mid 20s - which is a pretty standard age pairing among gays.

 

Is there anyone you like?  Other than Cullen....that's gonna be a lonely game of Wicked Grace.

[straykat]

Ah so asking about the Templars is optional dialogue then.  So in that case you can take it or not, and roleplay a character who already knows about it all? 

 

That doesn't read to me as a flaw in the lore, just as an option for new players or naive Inquisitors.

 

I haven't played that much, but I thought you don't get anywhere in dialogue with Cullen without talking about Templars. It's not that optional.

 

And it's a copout anyways. It just depends what level of copping out you're comfortable with. I have a different threshold, I guess.

[FloraTheElf]

I suppose I'm in the minority when I say that I don't really think about it that much. I've generalized an age for my inquisitors but never really compared them to that of their love interest. Just by looking at Cassandra I don't see her as being obviously older than many potential LI's so I've never given it a second thought.

[FloraTheElf]

Also, Solas has a few thousand years on his inky so I think Cassandra is in the green

[Patricia08]

Doubt it. She is pious woman who only had a relationship with one guy before. She is no Leliana who learned seduction techniques as part of her Bard training and had to perform Black Widow-esque assassinations and she is no Isabela who has slept with pretty much every kind of person out there. Doesn't mean that's a bad thing though.

 

You could be wrong though maybe she learned so much from her previous boyfriend that she even could teach Leliana and Isabella a thing or two. Maybe her previous boyfriend was some sort of Casanova a real Don Juan  .  

[Andromelek]

You could be wrong though maybe she learned so much from her previous boyfriend that she even could teach Leliana and Isabella a thing or two. Maybe her previous boyfriend was some sort of Casanova a real Don Juan  .

Loyalty that's what she could teach them

[Patricia08]

Loyalty that's what she could teach them

 

True loyalty and also modesty  . 

[Knight of Dane]

For humans, the game was more openended before. Then the merc/smuggler stuff was given to other races. Those are still open ended as far as age goes. These newer human backstories make it difficult imo. I can't do it with a warrior or someone trained to be a Templar...since they don't know anything about being Templars. Which tells me that they're young.

 

I also think it was stupid just because stats show the average gamer ages are around 31. Both men and women. All the origins should reflect this better. Instead they thought most players wanted to be the "youngest" noble child... like some teenager, who hasn't had any professional life.

 

As far as real age differences go, it's not that appealing to me. Girls 10 years younger than me bore me. It's much different when you're 60 and they're 50.. but not at these younger ages.

 

I've always pinned this one on the story presentation. We are talking about the company that let the lines "Temple of Mythal, what's that?" apply to a Inquisitor that is possibly the first to a Dalish clan.

[Dai Grepher]

Am I the only one who thinks that Cassandra is too old to be the love interest for many Inquisitors ?
 
She is born on 9:03 - 9:04 Dragon. Inquisition takes places on 9:41 Dragon. This means that Cassandra is either 37 or 38 years old. By the time the Inquisition story ends in Trespasser, it would have been 9:44 Dragon which means at the end of Trespasser, Cassandra will be either 40 or 41 years old.

You're not the only one. She is indeed too old for many Inquisitors I'm sure. My male rift mage Trevelyan however was roughly 43 during Inquisition. So it worked out just fine for him. I had wanted a character who was older anyway. Cassandra's romance fit perfectly for me.

But I can see why others would not like her being so much older.

[odekia]

Heh, I didn't really even think about anyone's age in inquisition or any of the other games Now I have a mind to play an Inquisitor who's very young, immature and stupid But I guess it could be a bother or something that breaks immersion...

[Beren Von Ostwick]

Am I the only one who thinks that Cassandra is too old to be the love interest for many Inquisitors ?

 

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[mgagne]

Is there anyone you like?  Other than Cullen....that's gonna be a lonely game of Wicked Grace.

 

 

 

I like the others well enough in their respective roles within the Inquisition.  However for bedroom recreation I want someone who's both handsome, sexy and has a compelling personality.  And despite all the vociferous protests from several male hetero players about the derth of LI for them - the gay side of things is just as scarce.

[AFA]

Making a scar-faced, short-haired amazon in her 40s the only real love interest for hetero men was a very odd choice by Bioware. I'm 34 and find Cas sexy as hell, she reminds me a lot of one of my exs, so that both helps and hurts. I don't really see her having a broad appeal. She's an obvious nod to Jaheira fans and people that wanted to romance Avelline, and some of her looks seem to be lifted from Casca from Berserk (and her various clones). 

 

I think her personality/beliefs only work for certain characters, and that can be more of a problem than her age. She hates my male rebel mage, which is only natural if you RP honestly and don't chase approval. She's the reverse Morrigan in a lot of ways. 

[AlanC9]

It gets worse if you play a 30 year+ old Dalish Elf mage who is the First and he doesn't know who Mythal is. Smh.

Doesn't hearing that line require the player to pick it?

[Monica21]

I don't know what the problem is here. The flirts are there to use or not use. If your Inquisitor isn't attracted to her then just, you know, don't use them.

[PapaCharlie9]

Are we seriously speaking of this? What's the problem with Cass? Solas is the one who is about a thousand years old and nobody lost the head about it, there are a lot of persons in Thedas that are quite old and still look attractive.

Also, Solas has a few thousand years on his inky so I think Cassandra is in the green

Cass doesn't deserve a thousandth of the amount of hate that Solas ought to get. In thought, deed, action or hair style.

It's bad enough that haters think she looks too much like a man to be a viable LI, now she's too old? FFS, complain about something legit, like, why does she wear her armor to a picnic? Why isn't her scar on her right cheek instead of her left, and why is it at such a weird angle? Did she cut herself shaving? How come she can't hold her liquor--are Seeker's lightweights, or Nevarrans? Who needs six names? Why is she so feckless and lazy to only be 78th in line for the throne -- show some initiative!

With so much legit hate material to work with, it seems silly to pick on something so innocuous.

(And trust me, it's galling to have to write /sarcasm. But I know that if I don't, someone is going to take me seriously. Maybe even then.)