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[fhs33721]

Iron Bull is an omni-sexual into some disgusting ****... **** him.

And keep in mind I don't want nor need gay LIs, if for example the only LIs in DAO were Morrigan and Alistair (they were the only worthwhile ones anyway) and Riordan, an NPC, was gay I'd be perfectly cool with it. The thing is, no negative/humiliating stereotypes.

The only thing I can gather from this is that you seem to have poor taste since it is known that Leliana is a superior LI to both Alistair and Morrigan. *already starts to run away from Alistair and Morrigan fans*

[Jedi Comedian]

The only thing I can gather from this is that you seem to have poor taste since it is known that Leliana is a superior LI to both Alistair and Morrigan. *already starts to run away from Alistair and Morrigan fans*

Alistair and Morrigan are way more meaningful. I don't care that they can end badly.

Poor taste you say? I have said nothing about wanting to romance them. If I had poor taste I'd romance Iron Bull. The only DA romances I find worth my while are mostly DA2 ones.

By the way, I don't give a **** about what people consider "superior". I don't base my opinion on theirs.

Leliana, really? No thank you, as a Chantry hater, I have no patience for crazy Chantry minions. I prefer Morrigan's personality a thousand times over.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Iron Bull is an omni-sexual into some disgusting ****... **** him.

The Iron Bull is pansexual, not omnisexual. 

[Battlebloodmage]

Err, the Iron Bull wasn't stoic enough for you? 

Iron Bull falls into the promiscuous bisexuals tropes. There's one in every DA game, making it seem like they're promiscuous because they're bisexual. 

[Jedi Comedian]

The Iron Bull is pansexual, not omnisexual.

What's the difference?

In any case, he's a complete degenerate.

[Jedi Comedian]

Iron Bull falls into the promiscuous bisexuals tropes. There's one in every DA game, making it seem like they're promiscuous because they're bisexual.

Some SJWs.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What's the difference?

Enough for there to be two different terms. I'm just saying Patrick Weekes stated that The Iron Bull is pansexual, so that should be the term that is used. 

[Monk]

Iron Bull is an omni-sexual into some disgusting ****... **** him.

And keep in mind I don't want nor need gay LIs, if for example the only LIs in DAO were Morrigan and Alistair (they were the only worthwhile ones anyway) and Riordan, an NPC, was gay I'd be perfectly cool with it. The thing is, no negative/humiliating stereotypes.

 

Okay, you might disagree with the partners he's chosen in the past, but he's still a stoic persona. And also with sexuality aside, the main difference between the two was the the Iron Bull was open – as he could for a spy – where Blackwall wasn't, at all. Even when chasing after Josephine, he's closed off. And they're both jovial, though it takes pairing up with a fellow rogue to get Blackwall talking.

 

 

Iron Bull falls into the promiscuous bisexuals tropes. There's one in every DA game, making it seem like they're promiscuous because they're bisexual. 

 

Well, i agree with Hanako regards to the sexuality, he's a pansexual. Back to the personality though, he's still stoic. And while being promiscuous might seem wrong in this is society, this is only because someone who's not white, male and straight enjoy having more than one partner in a short period of time. Which is funny because neither Isabela or the Iron Bull mention having partners recently in the games. The only reason i could see Isabela be called such was because she cheated on her husband, who was a bastard, and required a friend to finish him off so she'd be free (Zavren, which i didn't find out until my recent romance with her and going through all the dialog options).

[Monk]

Enough for there to be two different terms. I'm just saying Patrick Weekes stated that The Iron Bull is pansexual, so that should be the term that is used. 

 

pansexual: exhibiting or implying many forms of sexual expression. (Merriam-Webster)

 

omnisexual: 1. Pansexual. 3. Having sexuality everywhere. (Wiktionary)

 

Well, Weekes might have been using Apple's dictionary, which provides a small difference between the two terms. Between the two, it seems omnisexual is almost hyper in its sexuality in comparison with pansexual.

[Battlebloodmage]

Okay, you might disagree with the partners he's chosen in the past, but he's still a stoic persona. And also with sexuality aside, the main difference between the two was the the Iron Bull was open – as he could for a spy – where Blackwall wasn't, at all. Even when chasing after Josephine, he's closed off. And they're both jovial, though it takes pairing up with a fellow rogue to get Blackwall talking.

 

 

 

Well, i agree with Hanako regards to the sexuality, he's a pansexual. Back to the personality though, he's still stoic. And while being promiscuous might seem wrong in this is society, this is only because someone who's not white, male and straight enjoy having more than one partner in a short period of time. Which is funny because neither Isabela or the Iron Bull mention having partners recently in the games. The only reason i could see Isabela be called such was because she cheated on her husband, who was a bastard, and required a friend to finish him off so she'd be free (Zavren, which i didn't find out until my recent romance with her and going through all the dialog options).

It's not wrong, but it's because bisexual characters are the ones being promiscuous, it makes it seems like they're promiscuous for because they're bisexual, not because they're bisexual who happened to be promiscuous. Stereotypes go a long way. Why can't the promiscuous be straight? It's a common stereotypes for gay characters to be perceived as sexual deviants and bisexuals are greedy. These kinds of portrayal don't help. 

[vbibbi]

Okay, you might disagree with the partners he's chosen in the past, but he's still a stoic persona. And also with sexuality aside, the main difference between the two was the the Iron Bull was open – as he could for a spy – where Blackwall wasn't, at all. Even when chasing after Josephine, he's closed off. And they're both jovial, though it takes pairing up with a fellow rogue to get Blackwall talking.

 

 

 

Well, i agree with Hanako regards to the sexuality, he's a pansexual. Back to the personality though, he's still stoic. And while being promiscuous might seem wrong in this is society, this is only because someone who's not white, male and straight enjoy having more than one partner in a short period of time. Which is funny because neither Isabela or the Iron Bull mention having partners recently in the games. The only reason i could see Isabela be called such was because she cheated on her husband, who was a bastard, and required a friend to finish him off so she'd be free (Zavren, which i didn't find out until my recent romance with her and going through all the dialog options).

 

Iron Bull has a running commentary on the people in the Inquisition whom he has slept with, if he's not locked into a romance with the PC or Dorian. And makes sexually suggestive comments about additional people.

[Jedi Comedian]

It's not wrong, but it's because bisexual characters are the ones being promiscuous, it makes it seems like they're promiscuous for because they're bisexual, not because they're bisexual who happened to be promiscuous. Stereotypes go a long way. Why can't the promiscuous be straight? It's a common stereotypes for gay characters to be perceived as sexual deviants and bisexuals are greedy. These kinds of portrayal don't help.

Why can't we have no disgustingly promiscuous characters? I like DA for the story and lore, but seriously, **** the romances.

[AlanC9]

Iron Bull falls into the promiscuous bisexuals tropes. There's one in every DA game, making it seem like they're promiscuous because they're bisexual.

I thought the causality went the other way there.

[AlanC9]

Why can't we have no disgustingly promiscuous characters? I like DA for the story and lore, but seriously, **** the romances.

Why should the number of promiscuous characters be zero? The majority appear to not be promiscuous already, to the extent that we have data on past relationships.

[fhs33721]

Why should the number of promiscuous characters be zero?

Because Jedi Comedian seems to have unhealthily high levels of dislike for them and wants nothing that is not to his liking in any games. That is at least the conclusion I came to.

[Jedi Comedian]

Because Jedi Comedian seems to have unhealthily high levels of dislike for them and wants nothing that is not to his liking in any games. That is at least the conclusion I came to.

No. Promiscuity is inmoral. That's why I don't want it. Promiscuity is an UNHEALTHY lifestyle. Why the frak do you want me to like it?????? Go romance Iron Bull, Zevran and Isabela if that's what makes you hot. I don't care if you do it, just don't expect everyone to agree with your lifestyle.

DA and ME are not even 70 % of my liking, and GUESS WHAT, I play THE HECK out of them. Think again.

[Gago]

Huh... First time hearing about "Polyamory". We don't even have a word for that in my language. The things I learn here.   

[fhs33721]

Case in point:

 

No. Promiscuity is inmoral. That's why I don't want it.

 

Seems I came to the right conclusion after all.

[Jedi Comedian]

Huh... First time hearing about "Polyamory". We don't even have a word for that in my language.

Lucky you.

[Jedi Comedian]

Case in point:


Seems I came to the right conclusion after all.

And?

[AlanC9]

What's the difference?
In any case, he's a complete degenerate.

Hmmm... I didn't know that calling someone a "degenerate" was still a thing.

[Monk]

It's not wrong, but it's because bisexual characters are the ones being promiscuous, it makes it seems like they're promiscuous for because they're bisexual, not because they're bisexual who happened to be promiscuous. Stereotypes go a long way. Why can't the promiscuous be straight? It's a common stereotypes for gay characters to be perceived as sexual deviants and bisexuals are greedy. These kinds of portrayal don't help. 

 

I understand where you're coming from and it is problematic this trend for who's promiscuous. Besides the PC, if played this way, the only other promiscuous, hetersexual character i can think of is the rogue who dies in DAO during the joining.

 

 

Iron Bull has a running commentary on the people in the Inquisition whom he has slept with, if he's not locked into a romance with the PC or Dorian. And makes sexually suggestive comments about additional people.

 

Argh, you're going to make me listen to the dialogs again. I remember the joking around and the past mentioned with Krem but that's it. Hmm.

[Jedi Comedian]

Hmmm... I didn't know that calling someone a "degenerate" was still a thing.

It is, just like calling someone a ******, lesbo or breeder.

[AlanC9]

It is, just like calling someone a ******, lesbo or breeder.

Oh, saying douchey things is always gonna be with us, sure. But "degenerate" is weirdly old-fashioned. Honestly, I thought that one went away sometime in the 60s.

[Jedi Comedian]

Oh, saying douchey things is always gonna be with us, sure. But "degenerate" is weirdly old-fashioned. Honestly, I thought that one went away sometime in the 60s.

I hear the term often.