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[Donk]

What happened to this thread? Everyone is talking about LGBT or other nonsense instead of polyamory...Don't change, BSN.

It's Pseudointellectual Saturday.

[The One True Nobody]

Believe it or not, polyamory is actually wrapped up in LGBT topics by default, since the people who honestly support it in the real world face a lot of social stigma. So it's not off-topic, and insofar as it being included in a BioWare game, I consider it the same as I do gay/bi romances: "Go ahead, but you better gosh-darn treat the subject with some respect." If I want to play game that treats orgies like a reward for badassery, I'll download a porn game.

[Monk]

It's Pseudointellectual Saturday.

 

I believe polyamory of polyamorous amplitude shall work not percariously as you non-sayers have been non-saying, but as serendipitiously as expected. So, oh ha ha. Got you now. Your move, they who be oh so brave and such, such.

[Toasted Llama]

I believe polyamory of polyamorous amplitude shall work not percariously as you non-sayers have been non-saying, but as serendipitiously as expected. So, oh ha ha. Got you now. Your move, they who be oh so brave and such, such.

 

The plethora eloquent scientific topics in this thread really fires up my cacoethes.

I say, my good gentleman, that the proposed amplitude of the polyamory does not collaborate on a perpendicular scale with the mumpsimus of the commonwealth.

 

Adscititiously, your argument is quite the example of obscurantist blatherskite.

 

 

Yes, I'm not a native speaker of english.

 

Yes, I have no idea what the hell I just said.

[Monk]

Oh ha, blatherskite. Blatherskite, indeed in return, i say good fellow. Don't mind if i mull this over my Varren-swirled, Krogan liquid beverage of magnitudetional choice. It dulls the sufferage maintained by said nay-sayers from antiquity ad infinitum.

[Gwydden]

Believe it or not, polyamory is actually wrapped up in LGBT topics by default, since the people who honestly support it in the real world face a lot of social stigma. So it's not off-topic, and insofar as it being included in a BioWare game, I consider it the same as I do gay/bi romances: "Go ahead, but you better gosh-darn treat the subject with some respect." If I want to play game that treats orgies like a reward for badassery, I'll download a porn game.

What Bioware said, that they might make two companions come as a package deal one day? I find the idea interesting, but I don't think it would be well received.

 

The two LIs are of different genders? I anticipate much bitching and whining from people who want to have their cake and eat it too.

 

The two LIs are female? I anticipate many accusations of sexism and pandering to the straight male demographic (which as we know is sacrilege).

 

The two LIs are male? I anticipate many accusations of political correctness and pandering to the SJW demographic (which as we know is practically communism).

 

It'll be hell no matter what, which is a pity.

[Seraphim24]

Believe it or not, polyamory is actually wrapped up in LGBT topics by default, since the people who honestly support it in the real world face a lot of social stigma. So it's not off-topic, and insofar as it being included in a BioWare game, I consider it the same as I do gay/bi romances: "Go ahead, but you better gosh-darn treat the subject with some respect." If I want to play game that treats orgies like a reward for badassery, I'll download a porn game.

 

My experience I guess having Poly-ish tendencies has been mainly just the absence of similarly minded people...

 

I've had relationships of a kind with people who were always super progressive kind of nerd type of people and it was still really hard for them... it really is sort of this step beyond LGBT and stuff like that.

[The One True Nobody]

What Bioware said, that they might make two companions come as a package deal one day? I find the idea interesting, but I don't think it would be well received.

 

The two LIs are of different genders? I anticipate much bitching and whining from people who want to have their cake and eat it too.

 

The two LIs are female? I anticipate many accusations of sexism and pandering to the straight male demographic (which as we know is sacrilege).

 

The two LIs are male? I anticipate many accusations of political correctness and pandering to the SJW demographic (which as we know is practically communism).

 

It'll be hell no matter what, which is a pity.

 

Yeah, I'm aware. But it's something people have to get used to before they'll shut up about it, so eh.

[Battlebloodmage]

How many people here have been in a polyamory relationship? Is it like a fantasy thing or does it something they actually tried before and want it to represent them in the game anyway? I had threesome with same gender and different gender before, but I've never actually been in a relationship before. I'm not sure if I could have been in a relationship with 2 people. It's more about it haven't happened, not that I can't. When I imagine romance, I always imagine it as something between 2 people. Sex and romance are 2 different things, at least for me. It plays a role, but I wouldn't say they're exactly the same thing. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

Even to a believer?

I would hope they have some reasoned basis for that belief.

[Seraphim24]

How many people here have been in a polyamory relationship? Is it like a fantasy thing or does it something they actually tried before and want it to represent them in the game anyway? I had threesome with same gender and different gender before, but I've never actually been in a relationship before. I'm not sure if I could have been in a relationship with 2 people. It's more about it haven't happened, not that I can't. When I imagine romance, I always imagine it as something between 2 people. Sex and romance are 2 different things, at least for me. It plays a role, but I wouldn't say they're exactly the same thing. 

 

Well if you think about it a "polyamory relationship" is kind of implying a sort of "primary relationship" and isn't really purely "polyamorous."

 

I think what happens is I sort of imply this experience isn't necessarily part of a lets get married experience and forever are entwined each other other, but it's also like "not not" implied... it's neither here nor there, it just like.... is, whatever it is, right then. I think people then treat it as some kind of trick or something. But the thing is there isn't like another person that I have stashed away or something this person in front of me has really all my attention and devotion, basically... I guess I don't even really understand it myself at times.

 

But basically being in a relationship "i.e. this is my partner, we're together" feels highly constraining and wrong because I feel like I am creating this artificial preference for a person because I have to, and not because I necessarily want to, which doesn't subtract from the ability to like them a lot on their own terms of course...

 

It doesn't preclude spending repeated interactions with one person or lots of time with them, as far as I can feel, it doesn't even preclude basically just being with that one person a lot, you just don't abide by the notion that a relationship means only this one other person as a matter of principle.

 

Anyway we switched to what they termed "friends with benefits" but that didn't work for them ultimately either.

 

Honestly the relationship itself just kind of "started" we started being more sexually intimaite (not actual intercourse though) but it wasn't like I asked them out or they asked me out even, we didn't agree that we were like  "pair" or anything basically, it just like happened over sort of liking each other, but as it became more clear this was intended to and becoming a singular relationship with constraints I basically just felt worse and worse.

[fizzypop]

The odds of a character just happening to recruit enough party members for there to be more than ONE specific polyamorous option are about the same as successfully navigating an asteroid field.

 

To be blunt: I prefer a cast of characters who all have their own set orientations, and I very much like it when there's a diverse set of orientations among them. None of that Dragon Age II "either gender can romance anyone" half-assing crap that sidesteps diversity without actually addressing it. But that applies to general sexual preferences, too. A character should have the right not to want a polyamorous relationship as much as they should have the right to want it or be okay with it.

 

In short... yeah, sure, as long as it doesn't turn the thing into a goddang harem manga simulator.

It would actually be MORE likely because 1. THIS IS THE FUTURE. 2. The majority of humans are already non-monogamous given the rates of cheating 3. That ark's mission is to find a new place to settle and repopulate. Guess what? A WHOLE LOT OF NONMONOGAMY IS GOING TO HAPPEN. It will be needed to keep the ratio of genetic diversity. So it would make sense to bring a bunch of people who don't have issues with selective breeding or non-monogamy. I'm just sayin'

[Battlebloodmage]

Well if you think about it a "polyamory relationship" is kind of implying a sort of "primary relationship" and isn't really purely "polyamorous."

 

I think what happens is I sort of imply this experience isn't necessarily part of a lets get married experience and forever are entwined each other other, but it's also like "not not" implied... it's neither here nor there, it just like.... is, whatever it is, right then. I think people then treat it as some kind of trick or something. But the thing is there isn't like another person that I have stashed away or something this person in front of me has really all my attention and devotion, basically... I guess I don't even really understand it myself at times.

 

But basically being in a relationship "i.e. this is my partner" feels highly constraining and wrong because I feel like I am creating this artificial preference for a person because I have to, and not because I necessarily want to, which doesn't subtract from the ability to like them a lot on their own terms of course...

 

Anyway we switched to what they termed "friends with benefits" but that didn't work for them ultimately either.

For me, I like this sense of ownership, not just me of another person but another of me. I get that some people may see it as constraining, but for me, it's actually the opposite. There's just like something special when someone sees you as someone special and different from how they view other people. It seems more like just friends with benefits if you're just gonna play around with everyone, and they play and think about other people outside of you. It's just not something I would like. Even in open relationship, it's basically just sex with outsiders, but you love each other. Sex is one thing, but emotional investment is another thing.

[fizzypop]

How many people here have been in a polyamory relationship? Is it like a fantasy thing or does it something they actually tried before and want it to represent them in the game anyway? I had threesome with same gender and different gender before, but I've never actually been in a relationship before. I'm not sure if I could have been in a relationship with 2 people. It's more about it haven't happened, not that I can't. When I imagine romance, I always imagine it as something between 2 people. Sex and romance are 2 different things, at least for me. It plays a role, but I wouldn't say they're exactly the same thing. 

I'm poly. I have a bf and a gf. Both of them have other partners as well. I think most people here know that especially if they hung out in the DAI forums. Yes, I would LOVE it to be represented in a game. There is a mod in DAI that lets you romance more people in one save...the only reason I don't use it is because it won't be carried on. It won't matter except in that save. That's it. I hate that. I guess I'm really itching for an actual experience like my own. One in which WILL be recognized.

[Seraphim24]

For me, I like this sense of ownership, not just me of another person but another of me. I get that some people may see it as constraining, but for me, it's actually the opposite. There's just like something special when someone sees you as someone special and different from how they view other people. It seems more like just friends with benefits if you're just gonna play around with everyone, and they play and think about other people outside of you. It's just not something I would like. Even in open relationship, it's basically just sex with outsiders, but you love each other. Sex is one thing, but emotional investment is another thing.

 

Well that's the norm so you aren't alone

[fizzypop]

For me, I like this sense of ownership, not just me of another person but another of me. I get that some people may see it as constraining, but for me, it's actually the opposite. There's just like something special when someone sees you as someone special and different from how they view other people. It seems more like just friends with benefits if you're just gonna play around with everyone, and they play and think about other people outside of you. It's just not something I would like. Even in open relationship, it's basically just sex with outsiders, but you love each other. Sex is one thing, but emotional investment is another thing.

You are still special even if they do see others because you are you. You are unique and no one is ever going to be the same as you. It isn't FWB though for some it may me. I truly love my partners and they are my family. That includes even their partners.

[Seraphim24]

I'm poly. I have a bf and a gf. Both of them have other partners as well. I think most people here know that especially if they hung out in the DAI forums. Yes, I would LOVE it to be represented in a game. There is a mod in DAI that lets you romance more people in one save...the only reason I don't use it is because it won't be carried on. It won't matter except in that save. That's it. I hate that. I guess I'm really itching for an actual experience like my own. One in which WILL be recognized.

 

Hm see yeah what I experience is different there is "bf or gf" there are simply no kind of labels for any person above or beyond any other person.

[fizzypop]

Hm see yeah what I experience is different there is "bf or gf" there are simply no kind of labels for any person above or beyond any other person.

I'm guessing you are a relationship anarchist then? I have a few friends that consider themselves RA.

[Seraphim24]

I'm guessing you are a relationship anarchist then? I have a few friends that consider themselves RA.

 

Um, No, there's nothing anarchic about it.

 

Anyway, I have no doubt I wouldn't connect with your friends on this topic.

[fizzypop]

Wow thanks for the nice label? You get to be "amorous" and I'm an "anarchist" No need to project your insecurities onto another person's style of life... I'd rather not label whatever I am, but "poly" implying many seemed decent enough.

 

Anyway, I have no doubt I wouldn't connect with your friends on this topic.

lol I was seriously just trying to understand if that's what you meant or not. How am I insecure exactly? I wasn't the one that flipped out on someone just trying to understand someone. But nice. Have fun with that.

[Seraphim24]

lol I was seriously just trying to understand if that's what you meant or not. How am I insecure exactly? I wasn't the one that flipped out on someone just trying to understand someone. But nice. Have fun with that.

 

Well you just went and gave me a label that didn't sound accurate at all so yeah I didn't think that was very nice.

 

But anyway my other point is I don't connect with people via labels I am more likely to have stuff in common with people who identify as garden variety LGBT as "poly" because people kind of just label themselves as whatever.

[fizzypop]

Well you just went and gave me a label that didn't sound accurate at all so yeah I didn't think that was very nice.

 

But anyway my other point is I don't connect with people via labels I am more likely to have stuff in common with people who identify as garden variety LGBT as "poly" because people kind of just label themselves as whatever.

I actually didn't give you the label I merely asked which is why there is a question mark at the end. If I was meaning to give you the label I would have said you were RA and just ended it with a period. I'm sorry if that was the way it came out, but I was just trying to help facilitate conversation. Because the truth is most of the people here will have no clue about any of this.

[Battlebloodmage]

You are still special even if they do see others because you are you. You are unique and no one is ever going to be the same as you. It isn't FWB though for some it may me. I truly love my partners and they are my family. That includes even their partners.

That's just personal preference, of course. I would love to have someone to love only me, but I don't mind sex with other people if it comes to that since sex and feeling can be two different things. I'm not saying you can't, but I would personally prefer someone who's there just for me. 

[fizzypop]

Most of them are bi, ergo they do not count.

Julien and Nico are very fine but they are not in the game itself.

Bi people count lol you said non-straight. That would include anyone that's not straight. Bi people aren't straight.

[fizzypop]

That's just personal preference, of course. I would love to have someone to love only me, but I don't mind sex with other people if it comes to that since sex and feeling can be two different things. I'm not saying you can't, but I would personally prefer someone who's there just for me. 

Totally I get that. Not everyone can or even should be poly.