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[Gwydden]

If they ever do it, I think it may be better kept low key.

 

Say follower A is in a relationship with follower B. At some point, the PC learns that follower B is also involved with NPC C. The PC can then ask follower A about it, and the latter will tell them that he/she is okay with it and maybe give a brief rundown of the situation. Some time after, the PC gets a chance to initiate a romance with follower A.

 

There. Drama's kept to a minimum and no big production is necessary. It wouldn't even have to be significantly different from the average LI.

[Battlebloodmage]

If they ever do it, I think it may be better kept low key.

 

Say follower A is in a relationship with follower B. At some point, the PC learns that follower B is also involved with NPC C. The PC can then ask follower A about it, and the latter will tell them that he/she is okay with it and maybe give a brief rundown of the situation. Some time after, the PC gets a chance to initiate a romance with follower A.

 

There. Drama's kept to a minimum and no big production is necessary. It wouldn't even have to be significantly different from the average LI.

There should be an alternate path, get with follower A, cheat on follower B, got her pregnant, refuse to take responsible, get back with follower A, follower B got upset, stab you repeatedly, talking about how you only care about follower A's happiness and run away. Follower A comes back, see you dead, use the terminal to call follower B to the poop deck as you, show the follow B your head after cutting it off, then proceeds to slice open her neck and cut her open to see if she's really pregnant and just lied about it, follower A then cuddle your head while flying the ship into the sunset. 

 

http://www.dailymoti...m/video/x3099gt

[BloodyMares]

There should be an alternate path, get with follower A, cheat on follower B, got her pregnant, refuse to take responsible, get back with follower A, follower B got upset, stab you repeatedly, talking about how you only care about follower A's happiness and run away. Follower A comes back, see you dead, use the terminal to call follower B to the poop deck as you, show the follow B your head after cutting it off, then proceeds to slice open her neck and cut her open to see if she's really pregnant and just lied about it, follower A then cuddle your head while flying the ship into the sunset. 

 

http://www.dailymoti...m/video/x3099gt

This is f'ed up.

[Fredward]

Does Fallout really feature polyamory though? Is it polyamory if no one acknowledges any kind of romantic connection/meaning beyond you, the player? Or just a Bethesda game?

 

I wouldn't mind seeing what Bioware does with this. Though so far the ME team seems more... risk-averse than the DA team when it comes to sexuality.

[BloodyMares]

Does Fallout really feature polyamory though? Is it polyamory if no one acknowledges any kind of romantic connection/meaning beyond you, the player? Or just a Bethesda game?

 

I wouldn't mind seeing what Bioware does with this. Though so far the ME team seems more... risk-averse than the DA team when it comes to sexuality.

Do you mean they don't have feelings towards your other partners? Then it's absolutely normal and is still considered a polyamory as long as they know of each other.

[Jedi Comedian]

I see a lot of people kind of dismissing Zevran as the 'promiscuous bisexual' of the series. Honestly I never saw that. Granted he starts out real flirty with the Warden but if you do his romance path you see that the character goes a lot deeper than that.

Most if the characters he has slept with in the past were his assassination targets, sex was often just part of the job for him. If your Warden romances him and chooses to sacrifice themselves, the ending slide says he never loved again. He's also the only romance option who stays with the Warden no matter what.

I'm still of the (unpopular) opinion that Zev is the best romance option in the DA series. Plus he sounds like Puss in Boots.

Zevran and Morrigan are my fav DAO LIs. He was so charming I didn't care about the whole "do you mind I like men? thing. But that's a special case.

[Jedi Comedian]

It would actually be MORE likely because 1. THIS IS THE FUTURE. 2. The majority of humans are already non-monogamous given the rates of cheating 3. That ark's mission is to find a new place to settle and repopulate. Guess what? A WHOLE LOT OF NONMONOGAMY IS GOING TO HAPPEN.'

LMAO

[Jedi Comedian]

Bi people count lol you said non-straight. That would include anyone that's not straight. Bi people aren't straight.

I wasn't specific, my bad. I meant homosexual men. Bi people and lesbians have more than one non-stereotyped representatives already in DA. What we need now is butch gay dudes.

[Seraphim24]

I actually didn't give you the label I merely asked which is why there is a question mark at the end. If I was meaning to give you the label I would have said you were RA and just ended it with a period. I'm sorry if that was the way it came out, but I was just trying to help facilitate conversation. Because the truth is most of the people here will have no clue about any of this.

 

Well you kind of implied a label is necessary, which they aren't, I'd rather just not have a label.

[AlanC9]

I wasn't specific, my bad. I meant homosexual men. Bi people and lesbians have more than one non-stereotyped representatives already in DA. What we need now is butch gay dudes.

Iron Bull isn't butch?

[Battlebloodmage]

Does Fallout really feature polyamory though? Is it polyamory if no one acknowledges any kind of romantic connection/meaning beyond you, the player? Or just a Bethesda game?

 

I wouldn't mind seeing what Bioware does with this. Though so far the ME team seems more... risk-averse than the DA team when it comes to sexuality.

It's not polyamory, the game just lacks recognition. The characters are clearly jealous and "hate" it when you decide to flirt and sleep with Magnolia. They're not open to open relationship, it was just the game doesn't acknowledge it. 

[Battlebloodmage]

To be honest, I would want a gay character that is written for the women but to be available for the guys instead. There's a reason why, male written for women are written very stoic and romantic like Kaidan, Cullen, and Alistair. It's more of these that I want. 

[Jedi Comedian]

Iron Bull isn't butch?

Iron Bull is not gay.

He is pansexual and into BDSM. Not exactly my cup of tea. If you want him you can have him.

[Jedi Comedian]

To be honest, I would want a gay character that is written for the women but to be available for the guys instead. There's a reason why, male written for women are written very stoic and romantic like Kaidan, Cullen, and Alistair. It's more of these that I want.

I don't care about Al or Cullen but I do like Kaidan. Had less content than the straight romance, true, but he was not a stereotype and he and Sheploo make a great couple.

[Battlebloodmage]

I don't care about Al or Cullen but I do like Kaidan. Had less content than the straight romance, true, but he was not a stereotype and he and Sheploo make a great couple.

His character was written for the female perspective, which then allow for males, which contributed to why it is so romantic. Female romance seems to be very romantic oriented like the dance with Garrus. I love how cheesy and romantic it is. This is something I want more. 

[AlanC9]

Iron Bull is not gay.
He is pansexual and into BDSM. Not exactly my cup of tea. If you want him you can have him.

This is getting awfully ridiculous. We have exactly two data points for gay males, since bisexuals aren't queer enough for you. And you're whining because neither one of them was butch enough for you? There haven't been enough characters to even establish a trend yet.

Maybe you get lucky in ME:A, maybe you don't. Maybe you have to wait until DA4.

[Jedi Comedian]

This is getting awfully ridiculous. We have exactly two data points for gay males, since bisexuals aren't queer enough for you. And you're whining because neither one of them was butch enough for you? There haven't been enough characters to even establish a trend yet.

Maybe you get lucky in ME:A, maybe you don't. Maybe you have to wait until DA4.

"Queer enough", that's exactly why I don't like Bull, he's very, VERY sterotypically queer. So you think only straights and bi/pan can be manly, right? Well, that's not true.

Listen well pal, not all gays want to date men who bed women as well, and not all gays want to be tied up and dominated. All I want is manly men, not BDSM nor promiscuous (the "queer enough" stereotypes I want to avoid) attracted to men and men only. Not even as a romance, but as characters. Funny how people think gays are "queer enough" and bi/pan and BDSMers aren't.

One last thing, I whine because that's my right as a consumer, to demand what I want. If they don't give me what I want then they can forget about getting my money.

[Jedi Comedian]

Maybe you get lucky in ME:A, maybe you don't.

ME has already given us non-stereotyped men attracted to men (Cortez and Kaidan). Who would know a shooter franchise would give me that lol?

[Battlebloodmage]

Instead of giving representation, DA developers should give options people actually want. 

[SurelyForth]

"Queer enough", that's exactly why I don't like Bull, he's very, VERY sterotypically queer. So you think only straights and bi/pan can be manly, right? Well, that's not true.

Listen well pal, not all gays want to date men who bed women as well, and not all gays want to be tied up and dominated. All I want is manly men, not BDSM nor promiscuous (the "queer enough" stereotypes I want to avoid) attracted to men and men only. Not even as a romance, but as characters. Funny how people think gays are "queer enough" and bi/pan and BDSMers aren't.

One last thing, I whine because that's my right as a consumer, to demand what I want. If they don't give me what I want then they can forget about getting my money.

 

I hope BW implements exactly what you want, but makes him turned off by biphobia. JFC, dude.

[Battlebloodmage]

I hope BW implements exactly what you want, but makes him turned off by biphobia. JFC, dude.

It's a pretty common sentiment even among the gay and straight community, they see bi people as in denial, even advocates like Dan Savage said that bisexuals aren't real. It's not like Bioware does their job representing bi characters correctly anyway. 

[Jedi Comedian]

It's a pretty common sentiment even among the gay and straight community, they see bi people as in denial, even advocates like Dan Savage said that bisexuals aren't real. It's not like Bioware does their job representing bi characters correctly anyway.

Errr, I know bi people exist, I just don't normally romance them, just like some straight men won't date bi women, that's not biphobia, simply a preference.

That and I'm a bit tired of so many bi male LIs for so many years when back in the days of KOTOR there was a monosexual gay female.

I am not biphobic, but I'd really prefer romance content exclusive to males and not recicled for both sexes.

[Jedi Comedian]

I hope BW implements exactly what you want, but makes him turned off by biphobia. JFC, dude.

Biphobia, really? So straight men are homophobes for not romancing gays, then?

Sure, they can be turned off by biphobia. Then they should be turned off about promiscuity, BDSM and all the negative stuff most people associate with homosexuality, you haven't said a word about that for some reason.

And for the record, my fav m/m Bioware LIs are Kaidan and Fenris, both bi. I like Steve as a character but he's not really my type. Maybe according to you I'm homophobic for not romancing Steve lol.

[BloodyMares]

"Queer enough", that's exactly why I don't like Bull, he's very, VERY sterotypically queer. So you think only straights and bi/pan can be manly, right? Well, that's not true.

Listen well pal, not all gays want to date men who bed women as well, and not all gays want to be tied up and dominated. All I want is manly men, not BDSM nor promiscuous (the "queer enough" stereotypes I want to avoid) attracted to men and men only. Not even as a romance, but as characters. Funny how people think gays are "queer enough" and bi/pan and BDSMers aren't.

One last thing, I whine because that's my right as a consumer, to demand what I want. If they don't give me what I want then they can forget about getting my money.

You can whine about it in other more relevant threads though.

[Jedi Comedian]

You can whine about it in other more relevant threads though.

No thanx. Let this stay where it is.

Somehow some of you don't mind negative/stereotypical portrayals of homosexuals, perhaps you don't have a problem with it (not that I really care), but I really find said portrayals very old-fashioned and tiring.

I'd rather end this conversation right here, though.