Polyamory
#26
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 12:58
There is this thing called a word budget. That dictates the amount of spoken dialogue in the game, romance and otherwise. There is no special budget set aside for romances; it's all treated the same. The writers tried to do a poly relationship and it blew their word budget to the Underworld and back. It basically came down to: Do you want more NPC interaction/companion dialogue, or do you want a poly romance? There's no way they can do it without sacrificing other content. I'm betting the ME:A team is no different.
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#27
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 01:05
As long as the protagonist is a beta male who is average and no good at anything but then girls are strangely obsessed with him despite how oblivious he is to their advances, and they would still stuck to him instead of moving on to someone better like every harem manga out there.
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#28
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 01:10
I think, the poligamy are bullshit: It can be a constant source of conflict. I do not think anyone can be happy to accept second place. Someone is always be second. I do not know. It is hard to imagine. A mistress is another matter: that can stay hidden. It is morally wrong, but it may work for a while. As long as the lover still not care about his/her second place. But this has already occurred in Bioware game: in the DA:O worked the two lovers for a while (not for long...), and mention of it is that Alistair has keept his lover after, that he married with Anora. My Cousland warrior, who romanced Zevran, choose the throne (with Anora, ofc.), but he keept Zevran as lover. Zevran was not too happy, but he agreed. Thus, if there were such a possibility, not for the first time.
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#29
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 01:17
Agreed.I think, the poligamy are bullshit: It can be a constant source of conflict. I do not think anyone can be happy to accept second place. Someone is always be second.
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#30
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 02:33
I would hope not. I would like them to bring back the confrontation factor like ME1 had. If you tried to romance two people both would confront you about it. I thought that felt real. People don't like to feel like they are the "side chick" in a relationship. If you are able to romance more then one character I'd hope there'd be some type of conflict involved when doing so. The companions shouldn't be alright with it.
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#31
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 02:35
Yep, not every follower is an Isabela or a Zevran from DA.I would hope not. I would like them to bring back the confrontation factor like ME1 had. If you tried to romance two people both would confront you about it. I thought that felt real. People don't like to feel like they are the "side chick" in a relationship. If you are able to romance more then one character I'd hope there'd be some type of conflict involved when doing so. The companions shouldn't be alright with it.
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#32
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 02:44
Yep, not every follower is an Isabela or a Zevran from DA.
I dont know Isabela's romance, but Zevran not tolerated (except the royal lover status).
#33
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 02:48
If we had them in the same party... who knows. I'm not against learning Duelism via 3some/4some, but in my relationships I am a greedy ****.I dont know Isabela's romance, but Zevran not tolerated (except the king's lover status).
#34
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 03:58
I would hope not. I would like them to bring back the confrontation factor like ME1 had. If you tried to romance two people both would confront you about it. I thought that felt real. People don't like to feel like they are the "side chick" in a relationship. If you are able to romance more then one character I'd hope there'd be some type of conflict involved when doing so. The companions shouldn't be alright with it.
The Tali or Jack dilemma in ME2 remains my fav.
Jack doesn't take it too well.
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#35
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 04:11
The Tali or Jack dilemma in ME2 remains my fav.
Jack doesn't take it too well.
Didn't she call her bucket head or something? I forgot, but I'm sure it was amusing coming from Jack.
#36
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 04:25
Didn't she call her bucket head or something? I forgot, but I'm sure it was amusing coming from Jack.
I just love they say she says **** off.
So hot.
#37
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 04:50
How would the dialogue work?
It would be something........like THIS:
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#38
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 04:54
I just love they say she says **** off.
So hot.
Yeah, she's my hun buns, best romance I think.
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#39
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 05:24
There isn't any sort of option for you in DA:I for a threesome either when there had been one in the previous two games, but they had a lot more seperate romances I suppose, so I dunno can't feel I cant complain. Maybe they're trying to break away from those situations altogether.
Hasn't been one since ME1 in this series either, right?
#40
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 08:07
As long as the protagonist is a beta male who is average and no good at anything but then girls are strangely obsessed with him despite how oblivious he is to their advances, and they would still stuck to him instead of moving on to someone better like every harem manga out there.
Younger sister is mandatory as well.
I think, the poligamy are bullshit:
Ever heard of Islam? Bioware isn't going to cater to every possible fetish, including OP's, but educate yourself a little.
#41
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 08:42
How would the dialogue work?
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#42
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 08:51
I think, the poligamy are bullshit: It can be a constant source of conflict. I do not think anyone can be happy to accept second place. Someone is always be second. I do not know. It is hard to imagine. A mistress is another matter: that can stay hidden. It is morally wrong, but it may work for a while. As long as the lover still not care about his/her second place. But this has already occurred in Bioware game: in the DA:O worked the two lovers for a while (not for long...), and mention of it is that Alistair has keept his lover after, that he married with Anora. My Cousland warrior, who romanced Zevran, choose the throne (with Anora, ofc.), but he keept Zevran as lover. Zevran was not too happy, but he agreed. Thus, if there were such a possibility, not for the first time.
I think asexual is bullshit Why do romance if it's just different friendship. We still have it in DA:I or insert other word you don't have interest. Isabella was fine with polygamy or with just open relationship I am not sure. And Liara at least in ME1.
#43
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 09:00
I think asexual is bullshit Why do romance if it's just different friendship. We still have it in DA:I or insert other word you don't have interest. Isabella was fine with polygamy or with just open relationship I am not sure. And Liara at least in ME1.
As an asexual myself I'd say a asexual romance is more than a friendship. It has more to do with the romantic side of a relationship than the actual sex part, like kissing, caressing, etc... I'm for both; Polygamy and for asexual. But for the polygamy I just wouldn't want to see every character being okay with it, and for the asexual romance I wouldn't expect everyone being fine with that either because some people need more out of a relationship. That's my take anyway.
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#44
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 09:33
As an asexual myself I'd say a asexual romance is more than a friendship. It has more to do with the romantic side of a relationship than the actual sex part, like kissing, caressing, etc... I'm for both; Polygamy and for asexual. But for the polygamy I just wouldn't want to see every character being okay with it, and for the asexual romance I wouldn't expect everyone being fine with that either because some people need more out of a relationship. That's my take anyway.
I agree with I just giving as example. Because for me asexual is same as polygamy for Catilina. I am just not interested in romance like that My mage Inquisitor who romanced Josephine felt closer to Solas. Or it could be just Josephine being boring don't know.
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#45
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 10:04
I don't think we'll see that happen. Fallout 4 had romances, sure, but they were hardly as complex and satisfying as what Bioware typically delivers. And I don't care what your opinions on the quality of Bioware's romances are, but, if you're even remotely objective, I hope you have the wherewithal to call a duck, a duck. Fallout 4's romances are far from the quality of Bioware's. They felt tacked-on and shallow, and they ultimately had no real, narrative payoff.
Putting aside my own personal feelings about polygamy and polyamory, I don't think we'll see that happen. Past games usually confronted your advances towards more than one love interest in a negative way and I don't see that changing. In fact, including it will likely reignite the whole "player-sexual" conversation. Not only is it asking for multiple NPCs to be attracted to your character, but it's also asking that all or even some characters be okay with something like polygamy just because the player wants it that way. That just compromises the integrity of the character for the sake of appeasing players and I'm not totally on board with that. Yes, I know they're fictional characters and the devs should try to meet fan expectations, but you have to have some personal pride in your craft -- writing characters in this case.
Take Varric, for example. Part of what makes his character so wonderful is that he revels in telling the stories of others, yet he keeps his own past obscured for good reason. Bianca is the name of his crossbow and the one woman that he loves so much, neither marriage nor assassins can keep the two apart for long. In all of Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition, we don't see him take on any lovers or romantic interests, which says something about his feelings towards Bianca and his commitment to her. If Bioware had made Varric a romance option in either of those games, it cheapens those aspects of his character.
If an NPC is going to be polygamous or polyamorous, it should fit the character and not be forced for the sake of satisfying a few fans.
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#46
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 10:28
I see you have no clue about polygamy, which is what this thread is about, which is defined as
"the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time."
Woops, my mistake. I meant Polyamory, thanks for the correction.
OP, can you rename your topic? People get confused.
#47
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 11:12
I think asexual is bullshit Why do romance if it's just different friendship. We still have it in DA:I or insert other word you don't have interest. Isabella was fine with polygamy or with just open relationship I am not sure. And Liara at least in ME1.
Open relatonship is not poligamy. I wrote: that depends on the two (three, more?) people's patience. In the long run, one (each) participants may be damaged.
You wanted to attack me with the asexual paralel? Despicable thing, but it went wide. I' do not have interest to Isabela, not the sex... Isabela is nice woman, but she does not match my taste. Or, whose opinion is not good for the polygamy, those is asexual?
Sorry, maybe my weak English comfused me, and I misunderstod you.
#48
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 03:33
I can see this happening in the game, though maybe just one other character as it's counter to our nature to have more than one partner at a time.
#49
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 03:38
In a closed group it is quite difficult to solve without jealousy. But interesting...
#50
Posté 02 juin 2016 - 03:40
I can see this happening in the game, though maybe just one other character as it's counter to our nature to have more than one partner at a time.
It's not counter to our nature. In our earliest days humanity wasn't monogamous. We were promiscuous.
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