It's not a counter to our nature. In our earliest days humanity wasn't monogamous. We were promiscuous.
It is hard to tolerate. I wrote: someone is definitely damaged. Especially in a tightly knit group. I do not know if at all possible without compromising the team's cohesion.
Some of the writers brought that up back in 2014 at GaymerX Con. Patrick Weeks as well as Karen Weekes and David Gaider gave it a shot. They've got nothing against it, so they figured why not. It didn't pan out though.
There is this thing called a word budget. That dictates the amount of spoken dialogue in the game, romance and otherwise. There is no special budget set aside for romances; it's all treated the same. The writers tried to do a poly relationship and it blew their word budget to the Underworld and back. It basically came down to: Do you want more NPC interaction/companion dialogue, or do you want a poly romance? There's no way they can do it without sacrificing other content. I'm betting the ME:A team is no different.
That's dissapointing. I wouldn't expect them to be able to work in a ton of dialogue for every character pairing though. I was thinking more along the lines of being able to have a poly romance with two specific characters who would be up for it. Assuming they're initially designed to be romanced seperately anyway and as long as most of their scenes don't conflict, they wouldn't have to work in that much dialogue. Just add in a sweet, end-game, alien threesome. They did it with Jade Empire.
Younger sister is mandatory as well.
Ever heard of Islam? Bioware isn't going to cater to every possible fetish, including OP's, but educate yourself a little.
Wouldn't really call Polyamory a fetish, that would imply it's just about sex. My bad for getting it mixed up with Polygamy (multiple spouses). If one or two or three etc people want to be in a relationship together I don't see the problem.
Polyamory is defined as "Polyamory is the practice of, or desire for, intimate relationships involving more than two people, with the knowledge and consent of everyone involved." Polygamy is the whole Islam multiple wives bullcrap. Not right unless all parties are completely okay with it. How do I edit this thread title? 
That's dissapointing. I wouldn't expect them to be able to work in a ton of dialogue for every character pairing though. I was thinking more along the lines of being able to have a poly romance with two specific characters who would be up for it. Assuming they're initially designed to be romanced seperately anyway and as long as most of their scenes don't conflict, they wouldn't have to work in that much dialogue. Just add in a sweet, end-game, alien threesome. They did it with Jade Empire.
How do you figure? Monogamy is a fairly recent development in humans, and it isn't universal. It's not common in all cultures.I can see this happening in the game, though maybe just one other character as it's counter to our nature to have more than one partner at a time.
The first problem with designing a designated couple to be open for polyamory with the PC is choosing the gender(s) of said couple. I might expect they would choose a male and female, but can already hear the complaints that it wasn't 2 females or 2 males (and in ME, you can add alien preferences to the mix).
Yeah, but people are ALWAYS going to complain, it's just how it is. I reckon they'd go with a bi-male and bi-female.
I remember one particular DAO playthrough, where Wynne was having a chat with the Warden about her relationship. She was actively romancing Leliana, but had enough approval points with Alistair for him to have given her the rose. Wynne's lines were schizo - she'd speak of Leliana in one sentence and Alistair the next.
Sounds like just a bug, and a couple of lines of dialogue for one character wouldn't be too costly. Look at all the dialogue the recorded for Tali in ME3 on the Geth ship.
There's usually a romance lock-in conversation in every game, and those would need to happen with multiple partners together.
Not necessarily, they could both be separate. Partner 1 could bring up "aren't you with so and so?" Then you could lock-in with partner 2 who brings it up also.
There was a series of cutscenes late in DA2, where Hawke could go around and speak with each follower prior to the final battle. The conversation with the LI included a kiss and some romantic dialogue. In this case, I suppose a poly pairing would include a 3-way romantic conversation?
Jade Empire did exactly this at the end of the game too. Two of the romance options both have 'lock-in' points but they didn't cancel each other out. Think romancing Liara and Ash/Kaidan without the confrontation. Throw in maybe one or two remarks about the other partner, just to acknowledge that your character is in a poly-amorous relationship, and add in a threesome scene (likely fade-to-black to avoid animation costs) at the end of the game and they've got a neat poly romance mechanic imo.
Sounds like just a bug, and a couple of lines of dialogue for one character wouldn't be too costly.
Not necessarily, they could both be separate. Partner 1 could bring up "aren't you with so and so?" Then you could lock-in with partner 2 who brings it up also.
Jade Empire did exactly this at the end of the game too. Two of the romance options both have 'lock-in' points but they didn't cancel each other out. Think romancing Liara and Ash/Kaidan without the confrontation. Throw in maybe one or two remarks about the other partner, just to acknowledge that your character is in a poly-amorous relationship, and add in a threesome scene (likely fade-to-black to avoid animation costs) at the end of the game and they've got a neat poly romance mechanic imo.
Polygamy is more of a lifestyle...And the problem is even if your character is cool with it, why should every other character? That goes for any preferences.
Only in the civilized ones. But to answer your previous question, I have no qualms with people who want to go have multiple partners at the same time. Just keep it away from me and don't expect me to approve of it.How do you figure? Monogamy is a fairly recent development in humans, and it isn't universal. It's not common in all cultures.
It was - and it wasn't. Both romances were underway, neither was locked-in at the time.
What you're describing is courting 2 characters separately, and then having a 3way. It does not address the relationship between those other 2 characters.
Unless you were meta-gaming, you would not know ahead of time which characters were amenable to a non-exclusive relationship. Making all potential LIs open to it would limit the kinds of character personalities they could write.
Yeah, what I'm suggesting isn't the perfect way to do it, I guess. But I was thinking that once you lock-in with both partners they'd have some dialogue that acknowledges that you're in a poly relationship, then you can head-cannon the rest of the goings-on. Adding in too much content for a poly-romance would take a lot of time and money, I wouldn't mind if it was just a bonus. Maybe throw in some unique banter with the romanced squad-mates like with Dorian and Bull.
Only in the civilized ones. But to answer your previous question, I have no qualms with people who want to go have multiple partners at the same time. Just keep it away from me and don't expect me to approve of it.
I just don't think bioware should invest any effort into pleasing everyone's sexual deviance. I mean the games about space exploration, not what kind of kinky alien sex our protagonist can accomplish.
Kinky alien sex isn't important? Try telling that to 90% of people on here.
But Bro, I'm finding it kind of ironic you're telling people to keep polyamory out of you face when you're on a topic about polyamory. If you don't want anything to do with it, no need to be on here telling everybody your personal feelings on it.
Not polygamy but polyamory. If everyone in the relationship is okay with that then I don't see why not.
Where's the drama in that? It's much more interesting if everyone is NOT okay with it. 
To clarify I mean multiple romances and not marriages.
Then you should make certain that you know the definition of a word before you use it.
Only in the civilized ones. But to answer your previous question, I have no qualms with people who want to go have multiple partners at the same time. Just keep it away from me and don't expect me to approve of it.
I just don't think bioware should invest any effort into pleasing everyone's sexual deviance. I mean the games about space exploration, not what kind of kinky alien sex our protagonist can accomplish.
Pretty much agree with all that, but this is BSN and we know what kind of "space exploration" the seemingly majority are looking for.
Where's the drama in that? It's much more interesting if everyone is NOT okay with it.
Forced drama hurts the story.
Kinky alien sex isn't important? Try telling that to 90% of people on here.
But Bro, I'm finding it kind of ironic you're telling people to keep polyamory out of you face when you're on a topic about polyamory. If you don't want anything to do with it, no need to be on here telling everybody your personal feelings on it.
Your approval is unnecessary.Only in the civilized ones. But to answer your previous question, I have no qualms with people who want to go have multiple partners at the same time. Just keep it away from me and don't expect me to approve of it.
If everyone involved agrees, what's the problem?
Even if it is just an inability to commit, why is that a problem? Why make these value judgments?
I want to make this very clear. I have no problem with polyamorous relationships, but then again I grew up with parents who liked to swing. I grew up with a different view on it in general. It's not something I would do in my love life, but I understand it better than most.
Human beings are still somewhat primal and not everyone is meant to be with just one person -- few animals mate for life. That being said, from my own personal experience, the polyamorous people that I've seen have always been in the minority and typically act as if they're the victim of a cultural or moral misunderstanding. In truth, their inability to commit to one person usually hurts a lot of people along the way to finding partners that share their views. The vast majority -- be they heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, demisexual, pansexual, or otherwise -- still believe in monogamous relationships and, when someone polyamorous does what they are genetically or psychologically inclined to do (there are studies that support both), people get hurt.
These value judgements are kind of knee-jerk reactions and are understandable, but that doesn't make them right.
Historically, polygamy was a thing. It was not uncommon for biblical figures to have multiple wives as well as multiple concubines. As far as I can tell (I could be mistaken) monogamy was really a Roman thing. The church synod of 673 declared that marriage was between one man and one woman. However, kidnapping women and making them your wife was still in practice through the 9th and 10th centuries as laws had to be made about such practices. So, either our ancestors were incredibly deviant; or over time social norms changed. I believe the later to be true.
As for today we all must decide with what we are comfortable. Casual intimacy is fine for some people and not for others. Calling people perverted or deviant simply because they do not share your social moires is unacceptable.
It's not counter to our nature. In our earliest days humanity wasn't monogamous. We were promiscuous.
How do you figure? Monogamy is a fairly recent development in humans
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Technically, we still are promiscuous. It's just current society wants us to better control our base desires, though this doesn't always happen (for example, in high school/college).
I forget what the word is... "polyamory" I think, something like that.
Forced drama hurts the story.
So does a lack of believability. I know, I know juvenile fantasies take precedence.
Monogamy is a fairly recent development in humans
Do you mean this literally? I might regret asking this, but if you do, could you please elaborate? Sorry for asking, but this sort of caught my eye and I like to give people a benefit of doubt. It just happens, that If this statement of yours is true, it would change drastically my understanding of history, archeology and anthropology.
Threesome, you say?
Then you should make certain that you know the definition of a word before you use it.
I always thought it was polygamy, only found out I was wrong minutes after posting it. Not sure how to edit the title is all, being new to to forum posting. Sorry about that.
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