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[vbibbi]

How about you're a part of the harem instead of getting your own harem? Would people accept that? It seems like too much of a power fantasy. It's not the issue of jealousy, but it seems like it's always about the power fantasy where everyone just want them and willing to share you with each other. What if you're the one who's a part of the relationship? Like you and several other guys are in the same relationship with the female LIs. 

 

I would be interested to see how many people who want to be a poly PC would be happy if they were actually not the one involved in more than one relationship. A case of "careful what you ask for."

 

"But...I wanted to be able to romance multiple partners, not have my one partner romancing other people as well!"

[Catilina]

[...] Not everyone experiences jealousy to the same extent.

This is true, the jealousy not necessarily raging anger or unbearable sadness. It's can be simple uncomfortable feeling. Everyone feels differently.

Nevertheless it is quite difficult to imagine (fo me) that someone not at all jealous if his/her partner loves someone else besides him/her (If he/she really love his/her partner). Maybe there is such, but I do not really think so.

[dragonflight288]

How bout no Mr. Mormon. Actually never mind I'm indifferent. It would be hilarious to walk around with a haram of girls on some snow planet like some of the animes I've seen.

Side note: Mormons have not practiced polygamy since 1890. An offshoot group separated when the practice was discontinued, and are called fundamentalist Mormons, and this group still practice polygamy.

[Monk]

How about you're a part of the harem instead of getting your own harem? Would people accept that? It seems like too much of a power fantasy. It's not the issue of jealousy, but it seems like it's always about the power fantasy where everyone just want them and willing to share you with each other. What if you're the one who's a part of the relationship? Like you and several other guys are in the same relationship with the female LIs. 

 

Meh, whatevz. Long as i'm not sloppy fifteenths! Uh… Condoms and recent exams, everyone? 

[Toasted Llama]

I won't lie; polyamory would've made the Kaidan/Liara choice a lot easier, IMHO lol

 

So I say; sure! Why not?

 

 

How about you're a part of the harem instead of getting your own harem? Would people accept that? It seems like too much of a power fantasy. It's not the issue of jealousy, but it seems like it's always about the power fantasy where everyone just want them and willing to share you with each other. What if you're the one who's a part of the relationship? Like you and several other guys are in the same relationship with the female LIs. 

Polyamory can also be a triangle, wherein all participants are attracted to at least 2 other participants. Its not always a harem.

[Lady Artifice]

I always thought it was polygamy, only found out I was wrong minutes after posting it. Not sure how to edit the title is all, being new to to forum posting. Sorry about that. 

 

 

I apologize for being curt. Like Jeremiah said, it's not really that big a deal. It's actually a really common mistake on this forum. 

[Jalepeno Fire]

I would be interested to see how many people who want to be a poly PC would be happy if they were actually not the one involved in more than one relationship. A case of "careful what you ask for."

 

"But...I wanted to be able to romance multiple partners, not have my one partner romancing other people as well!"

I'd actually be totally up for this. A polyamorous character in general would be pretty cool imo.

 

That's something I found kind of disappointing in Fallout 4. I thought that if you romanced, for example, Hancock and Piper, that they'd actually get together with each other as well as you, instead of the pc dating them separately. Guess it would have been lots of dialogue.

[Jalepeno Fire]

I apologize for being curt. Like Jeremiah said, it's not really that big a deal. It's actually a really common mistake on this forum. 

Ah, no need to apologise. Its all good.

[Jalepeno Fire]

 

 

 

Polyamory can also be a triangle, wherein all participants are attracted to at least 2 other participants. Its not always a harem.

A triangle is the the kind of thing I was thinking off. Sort of like Jermey and his gf/bf in Peep Show if anybody's seen that.

[rocklikeafool]

especially since we got this in Fallout 4. 

...Did you really just do this?!

 

 

OT: Where's the element of choice and consequence if there's no consequences for polyamory?

[Toasted Llama]

...Did you really just do this?!

 

 

OT: Where's the element of choice and consequence if there's no consequences for polyamory?

 

Since when were romances about choice and consequence?

[rocklikeafool]

Since when were romances about choice and consequence?

Someone is missing the point.

[Battlebloodmage]

I won't lie; polyamory would've made the Kaidan/Liara choice a lot easier, IMHO lol

 

So I say; sure! Why not?

 

 

Polyamory can also be a triangle, wherein all participants are attracted to at least 2 other participants. Its not always a harem.

Yes, it could, but it's inevitably become a harem due to the nature of how you're the protagonist where the attention would be focusing on you. 

 

Although a lot of people when they said there are polygamy in Fallout 4 due to the lack of acknowledgement, what they really mean is that there is a harem in Fallout 4. For games with marriage mechanism, people said they can't choose, that's why they want to have everyone. That's also just a harem mechanism. It's very hard to fulfill and make it a 3 person relationship instead of both characters cater to the PC. It would mean that the other characters must have interaction with each other outside of the PC as well, and you do things together as 3 people. It would then make the resource for this particular romance to be a lot more than a typical romance. 

[King Darious]

I say go for it. I finally get live out my dreams of being Issei from highschool dxd. Bring on the harem!!!!!

[capn233]

Sometimes this thread looks like polyarmory.  And you can never have too many armories.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Side note: Mormons have not practiced polygamy since 1890.

Renouncing polygamy was a condition of Utah becoming a state, which tells us a lot about how deeply held religious tenets are.

[Pasquale1234]

Renouncing polygamy was a condition of Utah becoming a state, which tells us a lot about how deeply held religious tenets are.

I question how much of it was based on religion and how much has to do with family law. I know that in 1890, the legal status of women was much different than it is today, but most of our family law and dependent benefit status is based around the expectation of a certain type of nuclear family.

[Seraphim24]

I would like for the ability to at least explore sexual experiences (not necessarily pure penetrative intercourse) with more than just one single person at a time, but I don't believe that's what Bioware and their fans truly want.

 

I think "pure" polyamory in the sense of really just being open to anyone at any time is a bit tough for a lot of people, even people who consider themselves very progressive, to swallow.

 

The notion that all we ever have to do in life is be good enough for one person, or maybe just at one point in our life, is a powerful fantasy that propels much of the modern world.... truly rejecting that as seismic implications for thought and a burgeoning global society, on every conceivable level, science, religion, economy, etc... so... that's a different ball of wax then just a mere logical extension of the "progressive" sphere that increasingly incorporates LGBT etc etc.

 

Although to be fair, a failure to incorporate that notion has led to substantial chaos at any rate... not that I believe this is willful, however.

 

However, I've seen a lot of variation. For example, most people who actually identify as polyamorous that I've encountered also tend to still be at least attached to like a "primary" or a "secondary," with respect to people, or they have rules and limitations regarding what they will undertake with others, such as sex with so and so, or they permit exhibition in X category or Y instance, kind of thing. It's sort of like "modified polyamory." This causes them to feel better because they still have the "one relationship" and a kind of conservative basis while nonetheless not feeling totally constrained and limited by it.

 

A super common thing that I've seen is people will have a primary heterosexual partner, but be more unlimited with respect to possible same-sex partners. So like a guy will let his GF see other girls but not other guys, sort of thing. Likewise a female will permit a male to see other men, but may reserve for themselves different experiences, etc.

 

Anyway, while I would doubt Bioware's ability to create a kind of pure instance of oh hey we just met and I just saw someone else but this is fine! Sort of thing, I could see them potentially exploring that gray sphere in the middle.

[Seraphim24]

*Checks back in rest of thread* Oh this is just some kind trendy baity thread thing-a-majig, jeez I'm such a lemming sometimes, this place is a decent thought crucible though I guess at times, no regrets.

 

Kinky alien sex isn't important? Try telling that to 90% of people on here.

 

But Bro, I'm finding it kind of ironic you're telling people to keep polyamory out of you face when you're on a topic about polyamory. If you don't want anything to do with it, no need to be on here telling everybody your personal feelings on it. 

 

I believe Bro is actually just being honest about Bioware's perspective on the situation.

 

I think it's rather disingenuous and problematic for Bioware or their fans to assert otherwise to be honest, saying "Oh we want Poly this" but then not actually wanting and ascribing failures to abstract technical reasons, it will just bring people into conflict over that very issue, and at the end of the day, people who actually care about those things won't like the result, and the people pandering will just waste their time, it's a waste for everyone, ultimately, that achieves nothing.

 

I think that's how you get people who have no interest as you say Bro in threads talking about the topic, it's just kinda pandery.

[Monk]

You know, there are people who aren't going to like every forum thread. It doesn't mean such threads should be shutdown, just ignored by said individual.

 

I personally have no qualms with polyamory and feel the game should be a safe space for its existence. Games are about escape and with the changes to the "family unit" being more and more common, maybe people want to try other options safely because IAH, marriage isn't for everyone, nor is having a partner for life.

[Seraphim24]

You know, there are people who aren't going to like every forum thread. It doesn't mean such threads should be shutdown, just ignored by said individual.

 

I personally have no qualms with polyamory and feel the game should be a safe space for its existence. Games are about escape and with the changes to the "family unit" being more and more common, maybe people want to try other options safely because IAH, marriage isn't for everyone, nor is having a partner for life.

 

 

But like do you actually feel that way? Or you are just saying it because...

 

Because if there's a poorly implemeneted ill-thought implemented, thing that doesn't seem to accurately represent anything, well it seems like that is a problem right there.

[Monk]

But like do you actually feel that way? Or you are just saying it because...

 

Because if there's a poorly implemeneted ill-thought implemented, thing that doesn't seem to accurately represent anything, well it seems like that is a problem right there.

 

I do. I can imagine myself in such a relationship. It doesn't mean it's three-some city, i'm the jealous type. At the same time, i accept that there's more than one love for an individual and it's possible to run into multiples of them. If this happens, loving more than one will happen regardless. Will it actually become polyamorous? It's up to how everyone involved feels.

 

What does this say about those who believe in "true love"? Maybe there is just that one. If there is and someone's found them, they better be perfect or they'll be miserable for the rest of their life when that person walks away.

[Seraphim24]

 

I do. I can imagine myself in such a relationship. It doesn't mean it's three-some city, i'm the jealous type. At the same time, i accept that there's more than one love for an individual and it's possible to run into multiples of them. If this happens, loving more than one will happen regardless. Will it actually become polyamorous? It's up to how everyone involved feels.

 

What does this say about those who believe in "true love"? Maybe there is just that one. If there is and someone's found them, they better be perfect or they'll be miserable for the rest of their life when that person walks away.

 

 

Frankly speaking, I just don't think there is such a thing as accepting something notwithstanding your own personal opinion on the matter, your own personal opinion or desires on the matter shape your perspective, interests, interactions in unavoidable ways.

 

I realize that throws like the entirety of mainstream liberal dogma regarding expanding the sphere of tolerance or just having people's preferences or representations increased via this or that into the trash can, but that's honestly where it should of been the whole time anyway.

 

The things that advanced LGBT or Poly or BDSM were the things people that had those desires created with their own hands.

 

The world and people's interests have not improved ONE IOTA due to ANYTHING contributed by such mainstream liberal ideological terrorists, they have never EVER contributed ANYTHING VALUABLE to the world EVER.

 

Some realize this and kind of accept a more humble existence, at least.

 

So it all sounds well and good, people making the things they believe in side by side, or something, but for some reason this wasn't enough for these imbeciles though they thought it would be great if they took control over this homegrown creations and then presented it to them as a way of increasing tolerance, if that isn't the last straw that precipitates a mass extinction and death of that brand of thought than I don't know what is.

 

At any rate regardless whatever people think about this on this particular forum that is exactly how the world is evolving with 100% precision and there is nothing anyone in the world who feels differently one way or another can do to change that.

[Jalepeno Fire]

*Checks back in rest of thread* Oh this is just some kind trendy baity thread thing-a-majig, jeez I'm such a lemming sometimes, this place is a decent thought crucible though I guess at times, no regrets.

 

 

Uh, no. I made this thread because I thought it would be interesting to discuss how it would be worked into the game and to see what people thought about the idea. And god knows we can never have enough romance-threads. 

[Jalepeno Fire]

Frankly speaking, I just don't think there is such a thing as accepting something notwithstanding your own personal opinion on the matter, your own personal opinion or desires on the matter shape your perspective, interests, interactions in unavoidable ways.

 

I realize that throws like the entirety of mainstream liberal dogma regarding expanding the sphere of tolerance or just having people's preferences or representations increased via this or that into the trash can, but that's honestly where it should of been the whole time anyway.

 

The things that advanced LGBT or Poly or BDSM were the things people that had those desires created with their own hands.

 

The world and people's interests have not improved ONE IOTA due to ANYTHING contributed by such mainstream liberal ideological terrorists, they have never EVER contributed ANYTHING VALUABLE to the world EVER.

 

Some realize this and kind of accept a more humble existence, at least.

 

So it all sounds well and good, people making the things they believe in side by side, or something, but for some reason this wasn't enough for these imbeciles though they thought it would be great if they took control over this homegrown creations and then presented it to them as a way of increasing tolerance, if that isn't the last straw that precipitates a mass extinction and death of that brand of thought than I don't know what is.

 

At any rate regardless whatever people think about this on this particular forum that is exactly how the world is evolving with 100% precision and there is nothing anyone in the world who feels differently one way or another can do to change that.

Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. What's a "mainstream liberal ideological terrorist"?