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[Abyss108]

Well... I can't even imagine it being that good. I'd be willing to accept that it's done well, within the confines of DA. I'm not even the biggest RPG gamer to begin with. The greatest game of the past 23 years for me was probably Super Metroid or something like that 

 

I just don't like the gameplay itself... so it'd be surprising if it actually won me over on sheer dialogue or something. I also dislike the entire concept of the Inquisition to boot. It's a meaningless umbrella organization with an open door policy to everything under the sun. It has nothing to do with "inquisition" archetypes. It's inclusive, rather than exclusive. It literally stands for nothing. And from what I can tell, Trespasser is having this bite the player back in the ass. Especially with Solas. I'm just paying for Bioware's mistakes and manufactured drama, in that case. Not my own.

 

 

Yeah, as I said, I don't quite understand how it can make someone like the base game when they didn't previously, that's just what I've seen several people saying. I liked the base game, so I don't have that problem. The best stuff about the DLC is the character interaction and dialogue/plot though, so I can see why someone who didn't like the gameplay would like Trespasser.

 

I kinda agree with what you say about the Inquisition, but it wasn't a big enough deal to annoy me or put me off the game.

[cJohnOne]

Yeah I don't understand how an expansion is a good business idea if you can just release a new game for a higher price and reach higher sales.  I seem to remember that expansion sales are much lower.

 

On the other hand if you don't plan on making another new one soon than it might make sense.  At least keeping people working on something.

 

 

DLC is a different question since it doesn't seem to cost that much and reaps a good reward for the company.  I didn't undertand why they decided to not have more dlc.

[straykat]

I kinda agree with what you say about the Inquisition, but it wasn't a big enough deal to annoy me or put me off the game.

 

Well, just to be clear, I still like DA in general. I'll give that dlc a chance sooner or later. If anything, just to be prepared for future games. I just had higher expectations for this Inquisition concept. I preordered and everything.. I really did want to like it at first.

[Evamitchelle]

Yeah, as I said, I don't quite understand how it can make someone like the base game when they didn't previously, that's just what I've seen several people saying. I liked the base game, so I don't have that problem. The best stuff about the DLC is the character interaction and dialogue/plot though, so I can see why someone who didn't like the gameplay would like Trespasser.

 

I kinda agree with what you say about the Inquisition, but it wasn't a big enough deal to annoy me or put me off the game.

 

Well Trespasser actually does change the base game in a number of ways. The new abilities + trials + trial rewards made DAI's gameplay more enjoyable for me.  

[LOLandStuff]

I was losing hope seeing as you didn't post anything Witcher related as soon as the expansion was out.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Now if only they didn't spend so much on DAI itself. I bet it cost as much the Witcher 3 and Skyrim (80-90 million range) and didn't do as well.

 

I'm sure it cost MORE to make than Witcher 3, actually - it's cheaper to pay Polish employees than Canadian ones because the cost of living in Poland is lower.  (That's not a dig at CD Projekt Red. I'm sure they pay their employees fairly! It's just an economic fact that producing stuff is more expensive in Canada.) I certainly get the impression that it sold less than either of those games, although I don't think we have comparison figures for TW3 and DAI.

 

However, while DAI probably didn't make as much money as TW3 and definitely not as much as Skyrim, it turned sufficient profit that BioWare are making another one.  To be honest, that's all I care about when it comes to the money side of things.

[Reznore57]

It might be possible if they go Season Pass like Fallout 4 and Witcher 3.

The problem with DLC and expansion (I assume) is it sells well when the game is released , that's why we got Day 1 DLCs , but not so much one year or one year and a half after release.

 

There were some backlash with the Day One DLC , but the Season Pass might solve some of those.It's still something sold on Day 1 so it benefits from the sales of the main game , but it doesn't get spat upon as being cut from the main game since the content is available months and months after.

 

Now I don't know how well or not those Season passes perform .And well it also depends on what Bioware will do ...they went with the multiplayer route so they need to have a small team working on that all years.They might not have the man power and budget to have a bigger team to work on an expansion.

And also they are working on 3 IP now at Edmonton , so people who are done on project 1 get send on project 2.

Bethesda and CD Projekt seems to only be working on 2 things and are ready to have 5/6 years of wait between each games.

So it's not exactly the same organisation.And Edmonton is now sometimes using team in other town to create the DLC , I think the Descent was done in Alberta.

[Elhanan]

Best piece of content Bioware has ever produced. Actually, probably the best 7 hours I've spent in any game over the last 23 years.
 
I've heard several people say they hated the main game, but Trespasser actually made them love the entire thing. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me (how exactly does new content made the old stuff better or worse...?), but that's what people say!

While I prefer The Citadel as a best nominee, I agree that Trespasser and all that it brings (eg; difficulty settings, ability options, etc) is a great work of content.

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

I still haven't picked any of the witcher's games ;x I tried playing the third wen my brother had a Xbox one but I quickly became bored by Geralt's personality I kept wishing the game had a character creator and it gave me more options on how to roleplay the character. Sure, there are dialogue options, but they always felt monotone because he always talked in the same tone. Might give it a chance again later, but my first impression was... meh.

[Donk]

Will Dutch's Ghost ever have the courage to get over it?

[Donk]

I still haven't picked any of the witcher's games ;x I tried playing the third wen my brother had a Xbox one but I quickly became bored by Geralt's personality I kept wishing the game had a character creator and it gave me more options on how to roleplay the character. Sure, there are dialogue options, but they always felt monotone because he always talked in the same tone. Might give it a chance again later, but my first impression was... meh.

I've never really considered the Witcher to be an RPG if truth be told. Don't get me wrong, I love the game and I'm a fan of the books but TW3 in particular plays out like Grand Theft Auto in a medieval fantasy setting.

This is why it boggles me why the two fanbases are at each others throats like second grade schoolgirls when it comes to "which is better".

[Elhanan]

I've never really considered the Witcher to be an RPG if truth be told. Don't get me wrong, I love the game and I'm a fan of the books but TW3 in particular plays out like Grand Theft Auto in a medieval fantasy setting.

This is why it boggles me why the two fanbases are at each others throats like second grade schoolgirls when it comes to "which is better".

Only speaking for myself, but it is not a case of which is better, but what is preferred. I desire Player control over the gameplay and content, and DAI allows more for that; a reason why I will not purchase TW3.

[Dancing_Dolphin]

You're nothing if not predictable, Dutch.

[Donk]

Only speaking for myself, but it is not a case of which is better, but what is preferred. I desire Player control over the gameplay and content, and DAI allows more for that; a reason why I will not purchase TW3.

On that we can both agree. DAI will obviously appeal to a greater spectrum due to player control and customisation where is the Witcher won't be for everybody, due to the set protagonist and the content.

[Dutch's Ghost]

On that we can both agree. DAI will obviously appeal to a greater spectrum due to player control and customisation where is the Witcher won't be for everybody, due to
the set protagonist and the content.

Witcher 3 was more for everybody than DAI considering sales.

[Almostfaceman]

Witcher 3 was more for everybody than DAI considering sales.

 

[CrimsonN7]

I still haven't picked any of the witcher's games ;x I tried playing the third wen my brother had a Xbox one but I quickly became bored by Geralt's personality I kept wishing the game had a character creator and it gave me more options on how to roleplay the character. Sure, there are dialogue options, but they always felt monotone because he always talked in the same tone. Might give it a chance again later, but my first impression was... meh.

 

Never played any in the series either but I can't help myself clicking on a Dutch thread. Some of these responses are hilarious.

[Jedi Comedian]

The last was awakening and it was enjoyable. A great product to finish the DAO experience that left us wanting more.

Tw3 - Blood and Wine expansion has just recently released. I played and finished it. Clocked 25 hours with nearly two dozen side quests left unfinished, and half the map left unexplored. Yes folks, 25 hours for a DLC or the more fair and proper term an expansion.

It was longer than awakening. Typically awakening would take me 20 hours to finish on nightmare while doing everything possible.

Blood and Wine had a brilliant storyline, new beautiful region, a new city, lots of new quests, monsters, bosses, old characters, new characters, new gear, new weapons, new mechanics and multiple endings for the main quest.

This expansion is legitimately as long as the original mass effect if not more.

Will Bioware ever have the courage to do such a similar thing? Hakkon, descent and trespasser were not expansions but short DLCs. In fact it took me about the same time to finish all three of these dlc's on nightmare difficulty doing absolutely every single thing than it did for my first playthrough of BaW.

I sincerely hope Bioware takes a lesson here. A wonderful expansion to say MEA or DA4 is vastly preferable to small dlc's that ultimately leave us desiring it would be more.

A DAI expansion including Jaws of Hakkon, The Descent and Trespasser would have been nice.

[Al Foley]

Its not neccessary.  Trespasser in general made me consider the idea that less is more.  And the shorter a game is and tighter a game is in terms of geographical space and quest content the over all better the product and less stretched out.  Even Witcher (since we all know the OP loooovvveeesss it) felt stretched as hell at times and it may be why I didn;t like the game as much because a lot of the deeper themes fell through the cracks. 

[German Soldier]

Yeah, but you still gotta play as Geralt. Given the choice between inserting bamboo slivers under my fingernails and spending 30 hours with Geralt, I'd book the plane ride to South Asia myself.

Not to offend Dragon Age Inquisition but at least Geralt is a character that what it matters.

The Inquisitor instead was just a replacement of Hawke because of the  DA2 backlash.

[German Soldier]

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Witcher 3 sold almost 10 million copies,however i'm  not sure what the OP meant with "more for everybody"

Not sure what DAI did because numbers were never released but i think is not far fetched to say that it did not reached those numbers.

[Elhanan]

Not to offend Dragon Age Inquisition but at least Geralt is a character that what it matters.
The Inquisitor instead was just a replacement of Hawke because of the  DA2 backlash.

Matters to ??? Opinion =/= facts.

[German Soldier]

Matters to ??? Opinion =/= facts.

The plot in which the Inquisitor is involved was originally intended for Hawke that's not an opinion this mean that the Inquisitor was a replacement for someone else that players came to like the Inq doesn't change that

[Kabraxal]

The plot in which the Inquisitor is involved was originally intended for Hawke that's not an opinion this mean that the Inquisitor was a replacement for someone else that players came to like the Inq doesn't change that

And? Plans change in developement all the time. Has no bearing on "mattering". The Inquisitor exists now, and to many people, matters more since the player has much more agency in who that character is.

[Elhanan]

The plot in which the Inquisitor is involved was originally intended for Hawke that's not an opinion this mean that the Inquisitor was a replacement for someone else that players came to like the Inq doesn't change that

Considering I know of Players that have shed tears from the possible loss of Hawke, and due to the story of the inquisitor, it is safe to say that there is an emotional appeal to DAI for them.

Geralt may matter to some, too; does not equate to the fictional statement posted earlier.