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[Atomkick]

But it has too.

 

Yeah, it has to but likely it won't. The Crucible project had a lot of trouble with indoctrinated agents.

[SKAR]

Yeah, it has to but likely it won't. The Crucible project had a lot of trouble with indoctrinated agents.

and yet it made it to the citadel. There are ways.

[Atomkick]

and yet it made it to the citadel. There are ways.

 

Obviously for the story to progress.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

but a chinese website translate old news,i don't know where is the original eng post :

 

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& N7 day trailer tell us,they send some body running away from Milky Way,shepard still there.

 

Its before ME3 start,but after ME2.
& after ME:A story start,reaper came to Milky Way.

 

So that why no canon effect,& no time for shepard  to think about what happen in Andromeda.

I don't think Shepard was talking to the colonists. I think they were talking in a more meta sense to the players, as a final farewell to Shepard's story and a passing of the torch to the new ones. 

 

At least that's how it better be. My Shepard would never support the Ark Project.

Then again Bioware doesn't have a good track record of handling past protagonists well. 

[Atomkick]

and yet it made it to the citadel. There are ways.

 

It was also the Illusive Man revealing the plan to the Reapers which made them to hijack the Citadel and bring it to Earth. Otherwise it would've been easier. You see, it's not about whether the Crucible made it to the Citadel or not, it's about its secrecy. Such an important project but couldn't stay hidden so the chances of the Ark thing being a secret project are very less.

[SKAR]

It was also the Illusive Man revealing the plan to the Reapers which made them to hijack the Citadel and bring it to Earth. Otherwise it would've been easier. You see, it's not about whether the Crucible made it to the Citadel or not, it's about its secrecy. Such an important project but couldn't stay hidden so the chances of the Ark thing being a secret project are very less.

Who knows at this point. They may have left even before the reaper war started. Or the council or whoever was involved had it so top secret only a select few people knew about it. And maybe they took special precaution. The Illusive knew about the crucible because Cerberus was at the archives. It would be super important that the ark remain a secret to almost everyone for obvious reasons. But who knows at this point when the project to settle Andromeda really started. What we do know for certain that it was after the endings.

[Atomkick]

The Illusive knew about the crucible because Cerberus was at the archives.

 

Indeed they were at the archives but the construction of the Crucible began later and the goal was to keep it's location a secret which didn't happen.

[SKAR]

Indeed they were at the archives but the construction of the Crucible began later and the goal was to keep it's location a secret which didn't happen.

He warned the reapers of the citadel being the catalyst, not the crucible's location. If he knew where the crucible was the reapers would've destroyed it.

[Atomkick]

He warned the reapers of the citadel, not the crucible's location.

 

"Before the galaxy could combine the Crucible with the Catalyst, however, the Illusive Man flees to the Citadel and alerts the Reapers to the plan. The Reapers seize control of the Citadel and move it to the heart of their occupied territory, in orbit around Earth. With no other option, Admiral Hackett marshals the galaxy's fleets and sends them to Sol. The Crucible enters the fray with a token defense force after the initial offensive." (source).

 

The "plan" was nothing else but the Crucible project. The Citadel is the catalyst and without it the Crucible will not work.

[SKAR]

"Before the galaxy could combine the Crucible with the Catalyst, however, the Illusive Man flees to the Citadel and alerts the Reapers to the plan. The Reapers seize control of the Citadel and move it to the heart of their occupied territory, in orbit around Earth. With no other option, Admiral Hackett marshals the galaxy's fleets and sends them to Sol. The Crucible enters the fray with a token defense force after the initial offensive." (source)

The "plan" was nothing else but the Crucible project.

So you're saying in the worst case scenario the MW races wouldn't have made a top secret contingency plan just in case the reapers won? That's assuming they left during the reaper war and not before. It has to be around that time. After the endings is off the table. So who knows. This is all speculation. Once we get something solid, we can argue about that all you like.

[Sartoz]

Did Bioware confirmed it?

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"...you will have a new team of adventurers to work with...", from Conal Pierse.

source: http://forum.bioware...fect-andromeda/

 

Yibada quotes Walters' statement to Arstechnica. "This will have a new set of characters and great adventures..."

 

Also: "the main character of Mass Effect 4: Andromeda will still control his own ship, which is named the "Tempest." The ship will house seven people who each has their own loyalty missions...."

 

source: http://www.christian...ming-up-144723/

 

[Atomkick]

f he knew where the crucible was the reapers would've destroyed it.

 

The Crucible is somewhere else and instead of going for search and destroy the Reapers can take the Citadel easily and lure everyone to them, to their territory on Earth and that is what they did.

[SKAR]

The Crucible is somewhere else and instead of going for search and destroy the Reapers can take the Citadel easily and lure everyone to them, to their territory on Earth and that is what they did.

Exactly. He didn't know where it was and neither did reapers.

[Atomkick]

Exactly. He didn't know where it was and neither did reapers.

 

You got it wrong. We can't find the exact location of it in the lore and that is what I meant by "somewhere else".

[SKAR]

You got it wrong. We can't find the exact location of it in the lore and that is what I meant by "somewhere else".

Honestly why are we when having this conversation? The ark left before or during the reaper war. We know that for sure.

[Atomkick]

The ark left before or during the reaper war. We know that for sure.

 

Evidence?

[SKAR]

Evidence?

Endings. That's my evidence.

[Atomkick]

Endings. That's my evidence.

 

It's your opinion clearly.

[SKAR]

It's your opinion clearly.

How do you figure?

[Atomkick]

Once we get something solid, we can argue about that all you like.

 

My only argument is that the Ark thing taking off before or during the Reaper War sounds just as bad as the IT theory, BioWare being brilliant in it's writing secretly(I won't mind if they do that). Created just for the sake of ME:A which seems like a poor writing to me.

 

There are other better ways to deliver us a good prologue to ME:A and that is what I'm hoping for. 

 

[Helios969]

Seeing old ME faces, particularly any companions, is about as likely as Bioware adopting IT as it's official canon.

[SNascimento]

I think the ark leaving after the Reaper war was over to be extremely unlikely. If you do that, you would have to canonize one of the endings, which is the element Andromeda has to avoid.

But also, building the Ark sometime between ME1 and ME3's ending is not a choice I approve. At least not if it is build like the Crucible. I wonder how Bioware will explain it. Considering their history, a "we just found the blueprints is some ruin" is very likely, but I'll hope for more than that untill I can't hope anymore! 

[SKAR]

My only argument is that the Ark thing taking off before or during the Reaper War sounds just as bad as the IT theory, BioWare being brilliant in it's writing secretly(I won't mind if they do that). Created just for the sake of ME:A which seems like a poor writing to me.

There are other better ways to deliver us a good prologue to ME:A and that is what I'm hoping for.

No Canon ending they said. It would defeat the purpose of choosing they said.

[Atomkick]

How do you figure?

 

This is all speculation.

 

Like that. You are just a poster like me and everyone else in here. You aren't a part of BioWare/ME:A dev team for your speculations and opinions to become evidence.

[SKAR]

Like that. You are just a poster like me and everyone else in here. You aren't a part of BioWare/ME:A dev team for your speculations and opinions to become evidence.

They said no Canon ending. Someone chose destroy when you chose control or synthesis. Someone else's Shepard may have thane as dead and salarian councilor dead. Conrad Verner is dead in someone else's playthrough . It has to be separate from the endings and the rest of the orig trilogy because someone else chose differently than you.