I never got the stargazer scene are we like back in time? Why does the kid ask 'when can i go to the stars" Like space travel isn't a thing? Where does this scene even take place? explain?
I mean it doesn't even feel like peace its kinda sad, It feels like all life in the galaxy devolved and it always leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth
All we know for sure is that the scene takes place sometime in the future on some planet.
The scene though is a little complicated to talk about beyond that because there isn't much in the way of explicit information, so everything has to be inferred from the context of the ending. Which means that the meaning behind the scene changes depending on whether or not you're talking about the end of ME3 before or after the release of the Extended Cut.
In the original endings the Star Gazer scene makes more sense. Since it is heavily implied that activating the Relay network caused the Mass Relays to explode -- thus resetting civilization -- the Star Gazer scene is meant to show that life recovered in a universe without the Reapers. In this context the scene takes place long into the future, owing to the fact that they're talking about Shepard like he's a myth.
Post-EC the scene doesn't really fit. Since the epilogues show that the destruction of the Relays was only a temporary issue, the tone of the Star Gazer scene doesn't really make sense (since they are still talking about Shepard like he's a myth and space travel as if it isn't common place). The scene isn't needed to show that life recovered because the epilogues already do that (unless the Refusal option was taken). The only thing I can think of is that it's supposed to be something tying back into a theme of exploration and new beginnings. It could also be a tie in for ME4 (like the kid is the protagonist in the next game). Somewhat jokingly I say the scene is there to show that the Catalyst was wrong.
Maybe the rebuilding of the relays and the galaxy didn't really happen in the Extended Cut? Perhaps that's the setup for Andromeda.
If it was through Shepard's eyes or memories, well, Shepard dies before the cutscenes in the Extended Cut (seconds after jumping into the beam, or grabbing the power conduit), so all the stuff that happens couldn't have been something he imagined or saw, because he's dead.
So with all that said, the Stargazer scene kind of fits, because there is still no space travel and such, but one day they hope there might be.
For the guy to tell the story the way it happened, Shepard had to survive otherwise how would the guy know what happened on the Citadel after Shepard goes up the beam? He does say that the details have changed over time. It did happen a long time ago. So did everything that happened on the Citadel really happen? Maybe the guy told it the way he did to keep the child interested? Why would he say one more story? If it meant more dlc, why wasn't that line removed after all the dlc was released?
For the guy to tell the story the way it happened, Shepard had to survive otherwise how would the guy know what happened on the Citadel after Shepard goes up the beam? He does say that the details have changed over time. It did happen a long time ago. So did everything that happened on the Citadel really happen? Maybe the guy told it the way he did to keep the child interested? Why would he say one more story? If it meant more dlc, why wasn't that line removed after all the dlc was released?
He didn't say the details had changed, he said some of the details had been lost in time.
He didn't say there would be another story about Shepard. He said he was going to tell another story about Shepard to the kid.
He didn't say the detailed changed, he said some of the details had been lost in time.
Lost in time doesn't mean he remembers what they were. Most likely he told the kid what he thought happened. I wouldn't be surprised if the story was different from what was told to him.
He didn't say there would be another story about Shepard. He said he was going to tell another story about Shepard to the kid.
So let him tell another story. What would that story be about that has Shepard in it?
Data is not 100% time proof. The actions of Shepard from the Reaper War would be told and retold expanding what he did till he became an almost mythological being.
I never got the stargazer scene are we like back in time? Why does the kid ask 'when can i go to the stars" Like space travel isn't a thing?
I never got the stargazer scene are we like back in time? Why does the kid ask 'when can i go to the stars" Like space travel isn't a thing? Where does this scene even take place? explain?
It takes place in the original ending where space travel was in fact halted by what happens in the ending, but for "artistic integrity"'s sake they kept the scene even though it makes no sense at all now.
Instead you may look upon it as a scene happening outside the framed story of Mass Effect, and just two regular people in another fantasy-setting talking about Space for some reason.
For the guy to tell the story the way it happened, Shepard had to survive otherwise how would the guy know what happened on the Citadel after Shepard goes up the beam? He does say that the details have changed over time. It did happen a long time ago. So did everything that happened on the Citadel really happen? Maybe the guy told it the way he did to keep the child interested? Why would he say one more story? If it meant more dlc, why wasn't that line removed after all the dlc was released?
I never got the stargazer scene are we like back in time? Why does the kid ask 'when can i go to the stars" Like space travel isn't a thing? Where does this scene even take place? explain?
A young kid on a planet who hasn't learned enough about space travel. No more, no less. People read too much into that scene.
You get a different kid and a different storyteller in the version that plays during the Extended Cut's "refuse the choice" ending.
In the original endings the Star Gazer scene makes more sense. Since it is heavily implied that activating the Relay network caused the Mass Relays to explode -- thus resetting civilization -- the Star Gazer scene is meant to show that life recovered in a universe without the Reapers. In this context the scene takes place long into the future, owing to the fact that they're talking about Shepard like he's a myth.
In the original endings, it made zero sense, like everything else, because LIKE everything else, it wasn't explained at all. People just made up explanations, and more people were saying that the storyteller and kid were part of some inbred colony the Normandy crash survivors founded.
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