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[dreamgazer]

No, that is your opinion that you are hitting people over the head with claiming its fact.

He's right, though. The Witcher 3 struck while the open-world iron was hot, and it did hit hard. It's popular, and did a lot of things right.

[Dr. rotinaj]

 

 

But it should or the franchise loses its identity. It isn't Game of Thrones. Its about The Witcher and the people he cares about. TW2 does a poor job in relation to this, and I can say TW1 does as well. Indeed the new characters are well written, but so is the book characters. For example, Regis.

 

The fact of the matter is games are now going to be compared to The Witcher 3 when it comes to standards. Thats a fact whether you like it or not.

 

Then I guess I just like Witcher's attempt at GoT more than Geralt and his friends.

 

I love the fact that games are going to be compared to Witcher 3. I loved the game and many aspects of it, my personal favourite game since New Vegas. I'm participating in this discussion because I don't think every aspect of the game set new standards.

[txgoldrush]

Typical... Just repeated the empty jargon without actually dealing with any points brought up. Why can't you and Dutch actually respond with a thought out and truly engaging response that invites reasonable discussion? Don't think you can handle responses that actually deconstruct the messianic aura of TW3 and the beliefs around it? Instead of being like the typical Witcher fan/Bioware basher on this forum, can you actually put up a defense when challenged...

What you brought up doesn't match reality with the reality that TW3 is looked at as setting the bar. thats a fact, not an opinion.

 

And I was a Bioware fan and still can be, hell, I LIKE the ME3 ending. But the thing is, things change, new standards are set, and the old guard moves aside when it gets complacent.

[wolfsite]

What you brought up doesn't match reality with the reality that TW3 is looked at as setting the bar. thats a fact, not an opinion.

 

And I was a Bioware fan and still can be, hell, I LIKE the ME3 ending. But the thing is, things change, new standards are set, and the old guard moves aside when it gets complacent.

And once again the Witcher fan dismisses everything brought no matter how factual or reasonable and continues to march in line proclaiming that he/she is right and no one can contest it.

[txgoldrush]

He is pretty much always 100% honest with you, no trickery as would be expected from him.

 

Ciri's was never viewed as a saviour. Her offspring was the only thing people cared about.

 

I know that. What I said was that the distrust didn't foreshadow his insanity. 

That doesn't mean you can't be skeptical about him, Geralt sure is.

 

Because a major reason is to preserve and empower their legacies.

 

He acts strange in TW1, which is enough. He was never the straightest arrow.

[txgoldrush]

And once again the Witcher fan dismisses everything brought no matter how factual or reasonable and continues to march in line proclaiming that he/she is right and no one can contest it.

Because its not worth value. It is YOU that is dismissing the fact that TW3 was much BETTER received than DAI.

[Addictress]

And Witcher 3 is full with tedious quest too. Really in your eyes Witcher 3 is the best of the best of the best. When really isnt. Is far from been that.

Most Witcher 3 fans are becoming blind like that...... and isnt a good sign.

Sorry but this is simply false. Witcher 3 is the best of the best. There really isn't any debate on this.

[wolfsite]

That doesn't mean you can't be skeptical about him, Geralt sure is.

 

Because a major reason is to preserve and empower their legacies.

 

He acts strange in TW1, which is enough. He was never the straightest arrow.

The Witcher 1 shows just how inconsistent the story telling is in the series.  I had characters mad as hell with Geralt stating they never wanted to see them again.... and after importing in the next game there shagging in bed like it didn't happen some major characters vanished completely without even a mention and many choices you made in the first game get changed or are dismissed.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What you brought up doesn't match reality with the reality that TW3 is looked at as setting the bar. thats a fact, not an opinion.

No, it is an opinion. I don't think the Witcher franchise has set a bar above other games in anything. 

[wolfsite]

Because its not worth value. It is YOU that is dismissing the fact that TW3 was much BETTER received than DAI.

Actually no.  I played The Witcher 3 and felt it was a boring game with poor repetitious combat and dull characters.  the problem is you can't seem to accept that people can have an opinion that is different from your own.

[Kabraxal]

Because its not worth value. It is YOU that is dismissing the fact that TW3 was much BETTER received than DAI.

And? Reception does not equate to factual quality... you are parading the opinion that it set a new bar as if it is fact. Many like TW3.... An intensely vocal section of that base (ie you and Dutch), spam the idea that a new bar was set whike many TW fans wouldn't even go that far (we already see it in this thread). Add the large population that didn't like TW or flat out didn't but it and you see how small your opinion is. If you want to go a populist route, then I hate to break the news to you... Fallout and Skyrim curbstomp every other RPG with the numbers of copies sold abd STILL played. That is the only factual bar set.

[txgoldrush]

No, it is an opinion. I don't think the Witcher franchise has set a bar above other games in anything. 

Its not an opinion.

 

The fact is the The Witcher 3 is LOOKED AT as setting the bar. My opinion that TW3 set the bar is backed by the fact that critically, TW3 is looked at as setting the bar.

 

Actually no.  I played The Witcher 3 and felt it was a boring game with poor repetitious combat and dull characters.  the problem is you can't seem to accept that people can have an opinion that is different from your own.

Doesn't change the fact that TW3 was well received. You opinion doesn't matter to this fact.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Its not an opinion.

 

The fact is the The Witcher 3 is LOOKED AT as setting the bar. My opinion that TW3 set the bar is backed by the fact that critically, TW3 is looked at as setting the bar.

No, the fact is it is looked at by some people as setting the bar, and looked at by others as not. That's the only fact regarding this. 

[iM3GTR]

The managers left the BSN to get away from the heat and ignore their valid complaints = the equivalent of hiding behind answering machines.

"Welcome to the BSN hotline. Press 1 to report any bugs or glitches. Press 2 to complain about Mass Effect 3's ending. Press 3 to request a romance subplot in an upcoming game. Or press 4 to engage in a heated arguement with another user for no apparent reason...

You have selected option 3. Please hold."
*elevator music plays*

[wolfsite]

Its not an opinion.

 

The fact is the The Witcher 3 is LOOKED AT as setting the bar. My opinion that TW3 set the bar is backed by the fact that critically, TW3 is looked at as setting the bar.

 

Doesn't change the fact that TW3 was well received. You opinion doesn't matter to this fact.

And AGAIN the Witcher fan dismisses everyone else and continues to march in line claiming his own personal opinion is the correct path to follow.

[Addictress]

Look, Witcher 3 won at literally everything except a few unique assets Bioware still has in its business:

The characters and over-arching lore and plot in Dragon Age still beats out The Witcher series. Thedas is simply more epic.

But even though I'm a Bioware fan, I really think it's crucial we do not surround Bioware with yes-men. Witcher 3 blew everyone out of the water, in quest design, cinematics, NPC AI and dialogue, environmental design.

The music is good in tw3 but honestly I think the Dread Wolf theme by Trent Morris beats out any of the songs from Witcher 3. Dragon Age music on general beats out TW3, I have to admit.

Also Witcher 3 has one feminist point when Geralt faces off with a woman for a round of fisticuffs lol but otherwise um....obviously Bioware is the champion in the industry for attempting to be socially progressive. Sure, they're heavy-handed and hammy and botch it but at least they try and Witcher 3 is pretty standard white patriarchal fare.

But yes, everything else - dialogue, pacing, quest design, UI, NPC interactions, city and level building, coding, AI, everything....Witcher 3 can't even be touched. And the reason people are very adamant that Bioware pays attention to this isn't because we want to be mean, but because we knew Bioware has an amazing IP and story to be told, and we want them to unlock the potential that is there, and we are fans, and want them to get better.

[dreamgazer]

Sorry but this is simply false. Witcher 3 is the best of the best. There really isn't any debate on this.

Of course there's debate on this, and duly so.  

 

The side-quests are repetitive as hell from a design standpoint, and the central plot can be summarized by a screenshot from Super Mario Bros.

 

Anyone care to clarify what "bars", exactly, that The Witcher 3 set?  Hell, it didn't even meet the "bars" that the previous game set for it. 

[txgoldrush]

And? Reception does not equate to factual quality... you are parading the opinion that it set a new bar as if it is fact. Many like TW3.... An intensely vocal section of that base (ie you and Dutch), spam the idea that a new bar was set whike many TW fans wouldn't even go that far (we already see it in this thread). Add the large population that didn't like TW or flat out didn't but it and you see how small your opinion is. If you want to go a populist route, then I hate to break the news to you... Fallout and Skyrim curbstomp every other RPG with the numbers of copies sold abd STILL played. That is the only factual bar set.

Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 went head to head last year. While fallout 4 had more sales, The Witcher 3 won more Reader polls for GOTY. sales do not equal acclaim, and many sales are from before release.

 

Witcher 3 fans do not go far enough to claim the game is perfect, however, for side quest content, a huge aspect of the WRPG genre, the fanbase views it as excellent. I too had a thread on their forum critical of certain aspects of their games, mostly, the save import. And most of them believe that TW3 easily crushes Bioware's latest effort.

[iM3GTR]

And I was a Bioware fan and still can be, hell, I LIKE the ME3 ending. But the thing is, things change, new standards are set, and the old guard moves aside when it gets complacent.

Burn the witch!

[Addictress]

Of course there's debate on this, and duly so.

The side-quests are repetitive as hell from a design standpoint, and the central plot can be summarized by a screenshot from Super Mario Bros.

Anyone care to clarify what "bars", exactly, that The Witcher 3 set? Hell, it didn't even meet the "bars" that the previous game set for it.

You didn't even play it or even 40% considering how wrong this is.

[Drakoriz]

Sorry but this is simply false. Witcher 3 is the best of the best. There really isn't any debate on this.

 

lol you are as bad as TXgoldrush..... saying something is the best or the new standard doesnt make it a fact.

 

You just saying the witcher is the best, when i can name at least 3 games with better combat system, 2 with better leveling system, 5 with better loot, 3 with better enemies dont repeat them-self, 2 with better world to explore.

 

Im glad you guys like the Witcher, but there isnt a single fact on what you guys just saying they are just opinions.

[rossler]

A lot of people liked ME3's ending. The fans will love to tell you that everyone hated it, and it is an undisputed fact that it was a bad ending. 

 

If even one person liked it, it's still an opinion, not a fact. 

[txgoldrush]

Of course there's debate on this, and duly so.  

 

The side-quests are repetitive as hell from a design standpoint, and the central plot can be summarized by a screenshot from Super Mario Bros.

 

Anyone care to clarify what "bars", exactly, that The Witcher 3 set?  Hell, it didn't even meet the "bars" that the previous game set for it. 

If TW3's side quests are repetitive as hell, what makes the competition's? ......

 

And really Bioware fans shouldn't call out Witcher 3's plot for simplicity.

[The Elder King]

You didn't even play it or even 40% considering how wrong this is.

People can have different opinions. Just being here you can see how people have very different opinions on Bioware games and features in their games.

[Drakoriz]

You didn't even play it or even 40% considering how wrong this is.

 

she/he have a point, side quest tent to repeated themselves on Witcher 3, there are unique ones that  are good, but the bulk of it, is take contract, track with witcher sense, get the item, summon the monster, kill it. 

 

But, what worry mean more if that you telling me Wticher 3 set the bar for new Open world, and helll the maps are as full as a AC creed map, since they repeat everything on the map. There arent any cool dungeons to explore on Withcer 3 outside the one from the main quest. So really, i dont want this to be the new standard of open worlds. Plus having a ? in each location on my minimap really take all the exploration sense on the game. At last let me discover by my self the 10000 monster nest or the 2000 chest