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DA IV will take place in Tevinter?


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DreamerM

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.... In bullet point form, to save time.

  • Right now, there are a number of characters we have already met who are going or will be stationed there.
  • Conner, if he lived through Dragon Age: Origins and isn't possessed, heads there.
  • Feynriel, if he survives Dragon Age 2, also heads there looking for schooling on his dream powers.
  • Dorian always lives through DA:I. He's a Magister now with a murdered father to investigate and a determination to reform his homeland. He's either going to be a party member again or a powerful NPC ally.
  • Fenris can also be in Tevinter....if Hawke was a huge bastard. Still, Danarius did promise Hawke a personal tour if s/he was ever in Minrathos...
  • In DA:O, you can let Caladrius, the slaver from "Unrest in the Alienage," return to his homeland alive. He could also come back.
  • Tevinter is at the front-lines of that huge and inevitable war against the Qunari which has been teased for THREE GAMES NOW!! SERIOUSLY! GET ON WITH THAT!
  • The Tevinter worship dragons. Flemmeth...and Morrigan, depending ... can become dragons. COINCIDENCE??
  • Solas HATES Tevinter and since I'd bet dollars to donuts he's going to be the Big Bad of the next game, that seems the most likely base camp for an Anti-Solas operation.
  • I want this game right now please, ok, thanks, glad we had this talk.
  • Shutting up now.

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ArcadiaGrey

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Um...at the end of Trespasser there's a map of Tevinter....so yes.



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Then can I just say one more thing that makes me super-excited for this?....

.... We know the Qunari war has been brewing for a very long time, and Tevinter has borne the brunt of it.

... I kind of love the dichotomy that raises. On one hand, almost every Magister we've met has been an evil blood mage slaver (with one very strong exception). On the other hand.... Tevinter is a land where mages rule. And we know what the Qunari do to mages.

Plucking out their eyes, sewing their mouths shut, binding their arms and leading them around on leashes like animals... it's shocking when it happens to anyone, but this is the fate they have in mind for the most powerful members of Tevinter society. This is what awaits the Magisters under the Qun. Not their slaves. Not the little people. Them.... and all mages like them. 

That's a very personal, very concrete threat. Those are some very high stakes to be fighting for.

Something else I remembered: Isabella can be given to the Arishok in DA2. I imagine any new game that features an actual war with the Qunari, we will find out what happened to her.



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Don't forget about Calpernia, we do get an option to let her go back to Tevinter and to fox it. Since she denounces Corypheus, and I agree with her Tevinter vision, I let her live. I'm looking forward to see what happens to her. 

 

And it's about time we get to really go to war with the Qunari (not just agents of the Qun, but a true war). If we get to pick between Tevinter and Qunari my pick would be Tevinter any day. 



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Uh... Connor in Tevinter? Where does it say this happened?

 

As far as I know, the only mentions of Connor in DAI are when you meet him in Redcliffe. He greatly disapproves of Fiona's decision, so it seems doubtful that he would go to Tevinter on his own. He is never possessed in my game, and the only time I've seen him is in Redcliffe before you do the mage/templar mission, after which he disappears from his position on the Redcliffe dock. And of course you see him immolate himself in the future scenario, but that doesn't count as that is prevented.



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If there were Vegas odds, that's probably what they'd favor.



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Yes, and we'll be going to the town of Solas....



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You have it wrong what the Qunari would do to the mages of Tevinter.   Sewing the mouths of mages shut, leading them round on leashes and controlling them with electrical cattle prods are what they do to mages born and raised under the Qun.    All other mages have only one fate in store; they fill them full of qamek to destroy their minds and render them harmless drudges.   Some people might think that poetic justice for a nation built on slavery but I still find it horrific.    That is what the people of Tevinter are fighting against and why a Tevinter mage would probably rather kill themselves than be taken prisoner.    Or they would possibly do what Grey Warden mages do when surrounded by darkspawn and without hope of rescue; they deliberately allow themselves to be possessed and take out as many of them as they can before they are struck down.


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In DA:O, you can let Caladrius, the slaver from "Unrest in the Alienage," return to his homeland alive. He could also come back.

 

There's no "How did you deal with Caladrius?" function in Dragon Age Keep, so unless they add one retroactively before the game comes out it doesn't seem like that decision is exported with the rest. It'd have been really cool if there had been more recognizable elves living in the Alienage in Origins who might pop up in Tevinter in DAIV.

 

Iona might be there, if the Cousland Warden didn't sleep with her and Howe sold her along with the elves in Highever Castle and the Highever and Amaranthine Alienages.

 

The game being set in Tevinter might finally motivate me to play a mage PC and consider him/her canon. I'm all for it.



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Sewing the mouths of mages shut, leading them round on leashes and controlling them with electrical cattle prods are what they do to mages born and raised under the Qun.    All other mages have only one fate in store; they fill them full of qamek to destroy their minds and render them harmless drudges. Some people might think that poetic justice for a nation built on slavery but I still find it horrific.

Oh Maker! I'm... not even going to ask how that works. Wouldn't a mage without a mind be like a missile with no guidance system? Just a walking boom-maker? Either way, there's definitely no danger of too many Tevinter converts to the Qun, considering the stakes. 

 

That is what the people of Tevinter are fighting against and why a Tevinter mage would probably rather kill themselves than be taken prisoner.    Or they would possibly do what Grey Warden mages do when surrounded by darkspawn and without hope of rescue; they deliberately allow themselves to be possessed and take out as many of them as they can before they are struck down.

This is some really delicious tension. Again, almost all the Tevinter mages we've met have been blood mages and/or slavers. We have Dorian insisting his homeland has good qualities too, specificly an excess of "passion," but we haven't seen it yet. Still, considering that just one Qunari is a formidable force, a nation that can face down attacking bands of them for years.... say this much about the Tevinter, they ain't no cowards. They have guts.

And with the revelations of DA:I and Dorian's belief it should be shared with the world, the Tevinter are really going to have something to prove if that cold war with the Qunari ever heats up. And it better heat up. Really, no more supernatural-crisis-as-instigating-actions please, that war has been brewing for years, lets start there and THEN let the shite get weird with the gods and orbs and stuff.

 



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You can also send the goat-throwing Avvar and his tribe to Tevinter. And we could feasibly run into Tallis (and Varania if she's not dead), Maevaris, Calpernia, Marius, Dorian's mother Aquinea. Varric had/has family up that way. I think a non-romanced Fenris is said to be happily slaughtering slavers, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him even if you don't sell him back to Danarius. (Speaking of Danarius, he probably has relatives. We might run into them!) Oh, and apparently Bull and his Chargers stray near enough to the Tevinter border that they can stage a rescue.

Even Sera says she's seen Minrathous. The possibilities are endless.

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I'm not even sure there will be a DA4 game. Trespasser felt quite final to me... They solved almost all holes in the DA lore, leaving just a couple things hanging and a promise type cliffhanger. That's the kind of thing you do when you want to finish a series NOW, but in a way that you can resurrect it in the future, when the time is right and the market is ready for harvest.

I know that sounds cynical, but 2 words: Half-Life.

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I'm not even sure there will be a DA4 game. Trespasser felt quite final to me... They solved almost all holes in the DA lore, leaving just a couple things hanging and a promise type cliffhanger. That's the kind of thing you do when you want to finish a series NOW, but in a way that you can resurrect it in the future, when the time is right and the market is ready for harvest.

I know that sounds cynical, but 2 words: Half-Life.

Bioware has nothing in common with Steam regarding development cycles. In a recent interview regarding MEA it was stated that new personnel were working on a separate IP. DAI broke sales records so the odds of them NOT doing a new one and addressing all the new lore holes and hinted at events from DAI are basically nil unless something catastrophic happens to Bioware and even then there are plenty of hungry studios that would snap up a popular franchise if it became available.

There will be another DA game, we will go after Solas and it will be in Tevinter. 



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There will be another DA game, we will go after Solas and it will be in Tevinter. 

which is just your opinion. Don't get me wrong, I think there will be a new dragon age game someday, just not in the near future.



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which is just your opinion. Don't get me wrong, I think there will be a new dragon age game someday, just not in the near future.

 

So you think that EA are paying Mark Darrah, Mike Laidlaw, Patrick Weekes, John Eppler et. al. to sit around drinking coffee and Tweet about jellybeans?

 

They're working on something. Now, at this point something might be the strategy spin-off game that's been hinted about or DA4, but either way, we're getting another game in the next three years or so.



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They're working on something. Now, at this point something might be the strategy spin-off game that's been hinted about or DA4, but either way, we're getting another game in the next three years or so.

Only time will tell, but I hope I will be proved wrong. Few things would please me more than a fourth Dragon Age game (a proper role-playing game, not some strategy/RPG frankenstein).



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Seriously though why are you so thoroughly convinced the franchise is dead? There's really not justification beyond your opinion.



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Seriously though why are you so thoroughly convinced the franchise is dead? There's really not justification beyond your opinion.

Not dead... just on hibernation mode. There is no new DA material in the horizon, which coupled with the brand new IP and a few other seemingly unrelated things (like Gaider leaving the team), makes me think the DA franchise will be put aside for a while.

It is all gut feeling, of course. I would love to see 1 final DA game this decade.

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Patrick Weekes is now the lead writer for the Dragon Age franchise. He took over after Gaider left. There is no chance the franchise has been put aside. They already have the wheels in motion for the next game in the series. Most likely they started turning while making Trespasser or earlier. 



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Patrick Weekes is now the lead writer for the Dragon Age franchise. He took over after Gaider left. There is no chance the franchise has been put aside. They already have the wheels in motion for the next game in the series. Most likely they started turning while making Trespasser or earlier. 

THIS.

Also there are already new employees at Bioware that have been working on Andromeda leaving plenty of personnel free to work on DAIV and the new IP which if rumors are true has been in the works since before DAI released. Add in the groundswell response to DAI's twist, the fact it broke records for Bioware, and Patrick Weeke's long time involvement with ME and DA (Masked Empire) and there's very little reason to assume there will even be a pause in the franchise releasing DAIV. This is more than just my opinion. If you'd like to continue to be a weird doomsayer feel free but I'm not in the least worried. Bioware is not and never will be Valve / Steam / Gabe.



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That DA:Inquisition broke records does not guarantee the success of a future installment, nor does the hiring of new employees mean that old ones are working on another DA game.

You can think that I am a weird doomsayer if that pleases you but, rigth now, a cheap cliffhanger is the only thing pointing at a new DA game. That might suffice to fuel the hopes of most people; doesn't work for me.

This will be my last post about the subject.

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I think in light of all the major technological advancements we've been hearing about, the next DA game is going to be the biggest and best one yet, with 4K, Virtual Reality, the whole nine yards, it's going to be unlike anything we've ever played before.  Bioware has always been closely allied with Microsoft, and no doubt were one of the very first to get the news about the huge upgrades in technology and are going to be among the first to take advantage of them.  It's going to be really great!