Eh? That is not worst that is just the true. We do not know how overlap the statistics are or how they correlate to marketing. How many dollars where spend on the maleShep over the femaleShep, and how much time over the trilogy? We cannot compare the two just because there is a number that says 18% played FemShep in ME3.
I'm sending you back to 10K's post, he got the truth in the things I was exposing.
http://forum.bioware...8#entry20299916
Don't become a Bogard. Please... you can't beat him.
Gonna be that guy and say that I actually liked Dawn of Justice more that Civil War. Come at me bros.
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I really couldn't care less about the cover art, I only care about whats behind it.
If the game gets good reviews I'll buy it even if the cover is one giant Swastika.
And I don't trust reviewers.
Video games and movies the reviewers seldom reflect what I like. 
Tank Girl one of my favorite movies. Reviews not so good. Titanic rave reviews, I had no interest.
I check with friends and people who have the same weird/strange interest as I do. If a game cover is interesting and I don't know anything about it I'll look it up and see what I can find and ask people I know, unless it's on sale at some price that won't make me wish I had bought a taco instead. If the game cover doesn't catch me I don't have any reason to check further. I may miss out and find it years later, but that just means the company didn't get all my money and I got their game on sale.
Marketing should be aimed at the people who know nothing about the game. Men, Women, Old and Youngish. Those of us who know what it is have either already decided to buy immediately or wait till they know more or the game is out.
Use this as box art:
Problem fixed.
This is the one I was thinking of. I'd like to see something like this on the cover.
Perfect cover. Maybe a little background.This is the one I was thinking of. I'd like to see something like this on the cover.
That would be an awful box art.
Oh yeah genius let's see your ideas.That would be an awful box art.
And I don't trust reviewers.
Video games and movies the reviewers seldom reflect what I like.
I check with friends and people who have the same weird/strange interest as I do. If a game cover is interesting and I don't know anything about it I'll look it up and see what I can find and ask people I know, unless it's on sale at some price that won't make me wish I had bought a taco instead. If the game cover doesn't catch me I don't have any reason to check further. I may miss out and find it years later, but that just means the company didn't get all my money and I got their game on sale.
Marketing should be aimed at the people who know nothing about the game. Men, Women, Old and Youngish. Those of us who know what it is have either already decided to buy immediately or wait till they know more or the game is out.
Youtube is pretty useful as well. Video reviews tell more than text based one's and gameplay videos can be pretty telling as well. But yep I don't trust in just reviews myself especially the number part, cause reviewers seldom focus on things I find most important.
So .... i guess we have to satisfy the 18% of female players.
This is sad to say the least
That % must be pretty old. Entertainment software site - 2015 - 44% women. Consoles have brought more of us into the gaming world and once they get in with the consoles it's not a far jump to add a game to your pc. Also depends on who does the survey. But the point is women do play video games and if the developers want to dip into that payload they need to make them aware that not all games are about Snake, Tidus or even Zelda.
Don't know how old you are or even if you have or want kids, or maybe you don't want any daughter you may have in the future to be a gamer but I would like BioWare in particular, to get as many new gamers as possible.
That % must be pretty old. Entertainment software site - 2015 - 44% women. Consoles have brought more of us into the gaming world and once they get in with the consoles it's not a far jump to add a game to your pc.
Don't know how old you are or even if you have or want kids, or maybe you don't want any daughter you may have in the future to be a gamer but I would like BioWare in particular, to get as many new gamers as possible.
Pretty much any statistic on the matter is going to be unreliable at best.
The one from BioWare is that 18% of people played femshep, not that 18% of players were female. Any guy playing as femshep is part of that 18%, and any girl playing as broshep isn't.
Even other stats as to "how many gamers are women" more often than not seems to include games on social media like Facebook, which is hardly a demographic that has any value in being combined with hardcore gaming. Even if you manage to not include that, then it's bound to vary from genre to genre.
It's anecdotal evidence at best and thus equally as unreliable, but my experience is that FPS is more predominately guys while RPGs aren't as much so.
Of course I would also say that these days people shouldn't be buying a game just off promotional material alone. You should look up what kind of character creation options you're going to have in a game if it seems interesting. Dismissing a game simply because it's got some grizzled white dude walking away from the camera on the cover(you specifically may not do this, but it's been mentioned in this thread) seems as silly a notion as companies thinking that they need to keep doing that.
Seriously, what is it with the grizzled white dudes walking either away or towards the camera?
Ok, I'm missing the point here. How Fallout cover was misleading and made you think there is set protagonist?
Was Skyrim cover misleading as well?
I did not buy FA3 until sometime after all of the dlc was released because I thought it was a shooter with a male protagonist. Wasn't interested in either of these. Can't remember how I found out that you could play either a male or female, just like you could in the Elder scrolls. Might even have been on this site back when they had many different places to talk.
Doesn't really say how many female players there is though. I played more than one male Shepard to see the difference in the two characters. I did play more female than male. I also did not fill out a survey. I'm never included in surveys, political, video game, movies, no one cares.
Oh yeah genius let's see your ideas.
Unless you're the designer of said cover, you could try sounding less offended.
I've always enjoyed covers that opt for something other than the "man/woman holding gun" motif, like the alternate cover for BioShock Infinite.
I'm also fond of minimalism when it comes to box art. A white/gold Cerberus logo on a black background would be a better choice for ME2 than what we got. IMO.
Don't assume I'm offending you and you won't be offended. And I wasn't being offensive. I know it's hard to tell from text. So you like cliché?Unless you're the designer of said cover, you could try sounding less offended.
I've always enjoyed covers that opt for something other than the "man/woman holding gun" motif, like the alternate cover for BioShock Infinite.
I'm also fond of minimalism when it comes to box art. A white/gold Cerberus logo on a black background would be a better choice for ME2 than what we got. IMO.
Don't assume I'm offending you and you won't be offended. And I wasn't being offensive. I know it's hard to tell from text. So you like cliché?
You've misunderstood. Badly.
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There now, no need to get upset. I preferred seeing Batfleck to the weird bromance between captain "I'm always right" Mericuh and his emo BFF with the convenient memory loss. Granted I did like the villain though but rest of it was some dumb sheet.
That's not to say that Dawn of Justice was some kinda masterpiece though, it's got plenty of faults of it's own and is definitely far from ideal. But off the two options here I'd definitely prefer DoJ over Civil war.
Oops my bad. I thought you said you were for that. I was too busy eating cereal. Sorry.You've misunderstood. Badly.
OK?
Yeah. Want me to explain or have you re-read our posts?
I just saw dude and gun and you sayin dude and gun. My bad mate. Just me and my fruity pebbles. We human we make mistakes.Yeah. Want me to explain or have you re-read our posts?
Yeah man. They're the $#¡t.Fruity Pebbles.
Don't you mean Rice krispies?I like Rice Bubbles.
Don't you mean Rice krispies?
I guess that's what they call them in the States, yeah.
We don't really have a Fruity Pebbles analogue, though. We have Froot Loops, but they're a loop, not a pebble. So I dunno.
Fruit loops are dope.I guess that's what they call them in the States, yeah.
We don't really have a Fruity Pebbles analogue, though. We have Froot Loops, but they're a loop, not a pebble. So I dunno.
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