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[9TailsFox]

The point is that cover isn't there to list all game features, it should be able to catch an eye and show main game theme. It's advertisement element, more than anything.

So I find this whole thread amusing, because it

1) Tells EA how and whom to advertise

2) These people aren't even the target of it, because they will know all game features and buy it regardless of cover.

The cover can be this

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we still buy it, actually everyone would go wtf and get more publicity and bigger sales. But mass effect at this point don't need much advertisement it's like Fallout 4 we making new one and everyone instant buy and it was let down, good fps but bad rpg everyone still buy DLC and next game. 

[rashie]

I don't really get why we can't have both versions of the character on the cover?

A well designed front cover + adds are meant to be eye catching and draw attention to it as it's first purpose and not relay info about game mechanics.

 

Stick all the more relevant information etc about the game on the backside of it. I have mostly gone digital in recent years with games, but I'm pretty sure they still have those information summaries + screenshots

 

Bottom line, it's marketing 101 to stick something that looks cool on the front while keeping all that info to the backside of it.

[JPVNG]

So .... i guess we have to satisfy the 18% of female players.
This is sad to say the least

[Panda]

The point is that cover isn't there to list all game features, it should be able to catch an eye and show main game theme. It's advertisement element, more than anything.

So I find this whole thread amusing, because it

1) Tells EA how and whom to advertise

2) These people aren't even the target of it, because they will know all game features and buy it regardless of cover.

 

Cover shouldn't be misleading though. If cover makes you think game is sth it's not it might keep you from searching more information and from buying the game. If cover makes it seem like there is set protagonist, no CC and gender option, that will make lot of people looking for those ignore it. For example for me I kept ignoring Fallout series years just based on covers. I saw this gritty image in the front and thought the game would be sth I'm not interested in even though it was opposite. If I didn't watch everything E3 had last year I wouldn't have found that out, cause I wasn't interested based on cover. So cover does say sth to people, especially to those who don't know the game and series and it should say sth about the game, not sth generic that marketers want to use cause they only care about maxing out sales based on some limited target group.

[Mihura]

So .... i guess we have to satisfy the 18% of female players.
This is sad to say the least

 

Source on this please.

[ui876will]

Even if they showcased both genders on the cover, it wouldn't give the impression that you can create your character. For all the person know whom is looking at the cover, those are just the people they can choose from, Male or Female, not people they can create. The only sure way a person will know more about features of a game is through marketing or their own research. Cover art will barely help. Unless they talk about the character creator on the back of the game case, and if they are going to do that why are we discussing whom should be on the front? When we know who you put on the front won't suggest anything about the character creator. 

Because I will only buy a game if I know how the game is like.

And both genders being equally displayed shows that the game has at very least a male and a female main characters,and that should be enough to give the impression that both of them are playable,like what AC:Syndicate did.

[Ahriman]

 If cover makes it seem like there is set protagonist, no CC and gender option, that will make lot of people looking for those ignore it. For example for me I kept ignoring Fallout series years just based on covers. I saw this gritty image in the front and thought the game would be sth I'm not interested in even though it was opposite.

Ok, I'm missing the point here. How Fallout cover was misleading and made you think there is set protagonist?

Was Skyrim cover misleading as well?

[ui876will]

Ok, I'm missing the point here. How Fallout cover was misleading and made you think there is set protagonist?

Was Skyrim cover misleading as well?

Actually,I thought Skyrim's main character was the nord guy with the horned helmet before seeing my cousing playing it and creating his character.

I guess it can mislead...

[9TailsFox]

Source on this please.

[Panda]

Ok, I'm missing the point here. How Fallout cover was misleading and made you think there is set protagonist?

Was Skyrim cover misleading as well?

 

No, it was misleading for me in terms of tone and genre of the game. I was assuming it to be be gritty wargame, maybe more of thriller/horror esque than rpg with companions and humor. It's not best example for what I was saying, but it's one from my own experience ^^ Cover can mislead potential players.  

[Sigzy05]

Why not just put both? Equality people.

[Ahriman]

Actually,I thought Skyrim's main character was the nord guy with the horned helmet before seeing my cousing playing it and creating his character.

I guess it can mislead...

I guess you're right. But it can't tell about game's features regardless. Putting on TES cover twenty characters wouldn't make it even a little more informative, cover in TES games shows current theme and place, nothing more.

[Shechinah]

No, it was misleading for me in terms of tone and genre of the game. I was assuming it to be be gritty wargame, maybe more of thriller/horror esque than rpg with companions and humor. It's not best example for what I was saying, but it's one from my own experience ^^ Cover can mislead potential players.

 
I'm assuming you mean the third game in the Fallout series but even if you are not, I can see what you mean;
 
Here is the cover for Fallout;
http://static1.games..._1_cover_1_.jpg
 
Here is the cover for Fallout 3;
http://www.covershut...Cover-44950.jpg

 

 

[9TailsFox]

Actually,I thought Skyrim's main character was the nord guy with the horned helmet before seeing my cousing playing it and creating his character.

I guess it can mislead...

So DA:O main character is Morrigan.

[Shechinah]

Fallout: New Vegas and Fallout 4 Struck a bit of a different tone with their covers and backs.
 
 
Here is the cover for Fallout: New Vegas;
http://www.covershut...Cover-48317.jpg
 
On the front cover, it has more of a western feel to it with the NCR Ranger because of his duster and revolver. The light-like title and the background drop of New Vegas also help make it seem less gritty. On the back cover, it shows the titular New Vegas and screenshots of a more colorful land because it literally has more pleasent colors and it features some of the odder elements such as the Securitons with their television faces.


Here is the cover for Fallout: 4;
http://3.bp.blogspot...Covers.net].jpg

On the front cover, it has a similar appearance to the cover of Fallout 3 but the lightning gives it a more brighter feel because it looks like sunlight is shining onto a side of the mask. The back of the cover shows the world as it is dreary, dark and terrifying in the middle image while the other two shows the world in a more calm and casual manner with the one to the far right featuring a dog.

[Panda]

 
I'm assuming you mean the third game in the Fallout series but even if you are not, I can see what you mean;
 
Here is the cover for Fallout;
http://static1.games..._1_cover_1_.jpg
 
Here is the cover for Fallout 3;
http://www.covershut...Cover-44950.jpg

 

Mostly third, but also other one's.. They are pretty much all same, shots of power suits helmet. Which is fine, but that helmet with the coloring does give a certain image that might be appealing to some and unappealing to some others.

[Shechinah]

So DA:O main character is Morrigan.
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After playing the game, I've always wondered if it was some of the concept art they used for the the cover because the elf looks a bit like Concept!Zevran because of the hair and the dwarf a bit like Concept!Oghren as well as one version of Concept!Morrigan.

Concept!Zevran - http://vignette3.wik...20090924033605)

Concept!Oghren - http://images2.fanpo...18-858-1041.jpg
 
Concept!Morrigan - https://s-media-cach...048b403cc21.jpg
 
Featuring Duncan might be a bit of a clever feint because it can trick some players who recognise him into thinking he'll be an important character throughout the game.

[Mihura]

 

I see but that is not 18% of female players but gamers that played with a female character. Also is this for people who exclusive played with one gender or another? because I highly doubt no one ever played with both. 

I still think this is the egg/chicken kind of paradox, if I do not invest money in promoting the female option as much as the male option, of course the target audience and statistics correlation is going to be biased.

[Altair_ShepardN7]

Anyone else feels that the digital age is making covers obsolete/useless? When thinking of a game, I see a logo or a symbol instead of the cover. In fact, despite owning and playing all the DA games and Fallout games, I noticed that i had never seen the cover of most of them. 

[Commander Rpg]

I see but that is not 18% of female players but gamers that played with a female character.

Even worse then, can't you see?

 

Stop choosing any cynical Geese Howard as an argument you have to refute

 

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[Panda]

Anyone else feels that the digital age is making covers obsolete/useless? When thinking of a game, I see a logo or a symbol instead of the cover. In fact, despite owning and playing all the DA games and Fallout games, I noticed that i had never seen the cover of most of them. 

 

Not completely cause physical versions are still around, but more than past for sure.

[10K]

Wow only 4.0% beat the game on insanity? Ha, that's terrible. And engineer is the least used? I would have thought sentinel just because they reworked tech armor. These stats are interesting.

Edit: Wow and more people chose geth over quarians? good on you community, good on you!!

[10K]

Even worse then, can't you see?
 
Stop choosing any cynical Geese Howard as an argument you have to refute
 

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True, because now we can see the majority of female gamers played male as well. So what does that tell you lol. Male protag was popular with both genders.

[ui876will]

So DA:O main character is Morrigan.

It's just that almost every game shows the main character in the game's cover.That's why it can mislead.

Speaking of which,DA:O has a very nice cover! ME:A really should do the same thing and use an important character of the game as the cover boy/girl.

But as I said,just not some default main character or it can easily mislead most of the people who see the cover.

Besides,it's much better to imagine your PC instead of having a default one in every promotional art...

[Biotic Apostate]

So DA:O main character is Morrigan.

[snip]

Except...those are not official covers for Origins. These are (and both feature the Warden, blood, and a dragon):

 

 

If you want to prove a point, you shouldn't use fan made material.