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[SgtSteel91]

I've wondered how people read that line about the Trevelyans being pious/having close connections with the Chanrty.

Do you see the Trevelyan family fearful of magic and mages because of the Chanrty's teachings? Or maybe racist towards non-humans since they don't believe in the Maker? Or are they close to the Chantry in just a political sense, giving lip service and leaning on the Chantry's connections and dumping their spares to the spares onto them? Or maybe they're like Leliana, they believe in doing charity work and secretly support the Mages, having their family enter Chantry service to protect their Mage family members or Mages in general from Zealots?

[Dai Grepher]

Ellendra can be recruited by anyone with the Arcane Knowledge perk.

But not through self-reference, which is what we were discussing.

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I would like to hear how people read that line too!

 

For my Trevs, I read it as sort of like how military families are. They have a long family tradition of serving in the Chantry, whether it be as Templars or the priesthood, they hold it in high regard, give their time/money/political clout/whatever to supporting it, and regard those things as an integral part of the Trevelyan identity.

 

So my warrior Trev is very righteous and has a very pro-Chantry, pro-Andrastrian view of the world. I'd say he's racist in that he does regard the other races as inferior in the Maker's eyes, but he will work with anyone and respect them/treat them equally as long as they are Andrastrian. He supports the Templars wholeheartedly, and views this as supporting the mages. He has sympathy for mages and believes they have a place in the world, but that they require the Circle and oversight of the Chantry to protect them from the dangers they pose. The only real issues with the Chantry he and his family have are with its basis in Orlais and their suspicion of Orlesians and support of the Free Marches/Ostwick.  I based a lot of him on specific Texan attitudes I observed while I lived there, tbh, so I see the Trevs as fiercely independent and protective of their rights and lands, but also deeply religious in a way that highlights their righteousness and values of humility and kindness.

[Exile Isan]

I played it like my Inquisitor's parents were terrified and rather horrified that they had a mage child, so they tried to hide her, much like Isolde tried to hide Connor, except with no trainer. Someone told the templar's however, and she ended up at the Circle, after which her parents just kinda abandoned her. No letters, no visits, more like "Child? What child? We have no child!" This left her a quite insecure about how people who are non mages would except her, and of course, she goes and falls for Cullen who has suffered at the hands of mages before, which made her "are you okay with me being a mage" several times make more sense.

 

I like to imagine that quest at Chateau d'Onterre hits a little too close to home with her and she has a "that could have been me" moment. 

 

She's all for more freedoms for mages, but believes that the Circle has it's place, mage children need to be trained, but it should be more of a merit system instead of a "your stuck here for life" kinda of system. She conscripted the mages at Redcliffe because they pissed her off that they were once again making the mage community look bad.

 

And Dorian, Solas, and Cass are her BFF's. Although, she's on pretty good terms with everyone, even Vivienne.

[Ieldra]

I've wondered how people read that line about the Trevelyans being pious/having close connections with the Chanrty.

Do you see the Trevelyan family fearful of magic and mages because of the Chanrty's teachings? Or maybe racist towards non-humans since they don't believe in the Maker? Or are they close to the Chantry in just a political sense, giving lip service and leaning on the Chantry's connections and dumping their spares to the spares onto them? Or maybe they're like Leliana, they believe in doing charity work and secretly support the Mages, having their family enter Chantry service to protect their Mage family members or Mages in general from Zealots?

I think this line leaves quite a bit of space for interpretation. For my mage Inquisitor, I assumed this:

(1) They support the Circle system.

(2) They aren't fearful of magic. They see magic as both a gift and a curse, and they support the main tenet "Magic should be used to serve and not to rule", and consequently, think the mageborn shouldn't have positions of power. This may vary by individual.

(3) They support the Chantry politically because they see the advantage of having some unifying element among Thedas' very different cultures.

(4) They have an "everyday faith" they take somewhat seriously, but they aren't fanatics.

(5) They think their status incurs an obligation to do better than most other people in everything. Within the constraints of the political system as a whole, they attempt to make it so that many people benefit from their actions and decisions.

(6) They are not racists. They think in order to convince others to see things your way, you can't start by looking down on them.

 

Maelyn Trevelyan came to leave the family tradition behind along with her Andrastianism in her sojourn in the Circle. but she still thinks their position is reasonable, even if it is one she doesn't agree with, and she still feels the same obligation to use her powers for the benefit of all where possible. She just doesn't like to be forced into service.

[JadeDragon]

One thing i have wondered is if Non-mage and Mage Trevelyan are siblings rather then the same person but just a different class. For non-mages the origin bio goes out its way to state it is the youngest sibling of the house while that detail is missing for the mages. Could it be possible that the Mage Trevelyan is the older sibling while Non-mages are actually younger? If so this also means both of them could have been present during the conclave meaning our Trevelyan could have lost a sibling in the blast. That would have been a nice personal side note to add for the humans.

[GoldenGail3]

One thing i have wondered is if Non-mage and Mage Trevelyan are siblings rather then the same person but just a different class. For non-mages the origin bio goes out its way to state it is the youngest sibling of the house while that detail is missing for the mages. Could it be possible that the Mage Trevelyan is the older sibling while Non-mages are actually younger? If so this also means both of them could have been present during the conclave meaning our Trevelyan could have lost a sibling in the blast. That would have been a nice personal side note to add for the humans.

That's what I headcount 

[JadeDragon]

That's what I headcount 

Same here. Thats why I give my Rogue and Mage Trevelyan the same hair and eye color. My Rogue Male is the canon who went the templar route and My Mage Female is the big sister who went the Mage route. They both shared the same beliefs as well so I headcanon my Male used to visit his sister while she was in the circle and they both had another older sibling there as a templar so her experience was not so bad.

[PapaCharlie9]

My mage Trevelyan was pretty much disowned by her family when her magic surfaced. I figured that the Trevelyans cared deeply about their reputation as a pious family and they knew that reputation would be stained if it became widespread knowledge that they had a mage child.

My RP was similar to this, only Maggie disowned the family, rather than the other way around. She was always a rebel, hung out with city elves, did a little petty larceny, even tattooed her face to be even more elvish than her elven friends. The Real Slim Shady of the alienage.

When they hauled her off to the Circle, she was not a happy camper. Her family was relieved that she'd finally stop embarassing them, meaning, rather a mage than an elf lover in the family!

Needless to say, she took every anti-Chantry, anti-Circle, pro-elf dialogue option available. She even thought Solas was awesome and became friends with him. Fell in love with Sera. Had her tattoo removed at Sera's insistance (thank you Black Emporium!) Saved the world. Go figure.

[GoldenGail3]

Same here. Thats why I give my Rogue and Mage Trevelyan the same hair and eye color. My Rogue Male is the canon who went the templar route and My Mage Female is the big sister who went the Mage route. They both shared the same beliefs as well so I headcanon my Male used to visit his sister while she was in the circle and they both had another older sibling there as a templar so her experience was not so bad.

Wow, same, besides for my dude being a Warrior and taking the Templar Speck as a reminder of his past and all. And they have little rogue of a sister that rebeled against the order (she was a Archer in the Templar order) and ended up with Blackwall (my fem Mage was a Cullen romance, and my dude was a Cassandra Romance)

[Ieldra]

One thing i have wondered is if Non-mage and Mage Trevelyan are siblings rather then the same person but just a different class. For non-mages the origin bio goes out its way to state it is the youngest sibling of the house while that detail is missing for the mages. Could it be possible that the Mage Trevelyan is the older sibling while Non-mages are actually younger? If so this also means both of them could have been present during the conclave meaning our Trevelyan could have lost a sibling in the blast. That would have been a nice personal side note to add for the humans.

That would've been interesting, but probably too much like Hawke and her sibling of the other side in DA2 to make it official. Space for headcanon, though. *starts thinking*

[Dai Grepher]

One thing i have wondered is if Non-mage and Mage Trevelyan are siblings rather then the same person but just a different class. For non-mages the origin bio goes out its way to state it is the youngest sibling of the house while that detail is missing for the mages. Could it be possible that the Mage Trevelyan is the older sibling while Non-mages are actually younger? If so this also means both of them could have been present during the conclave meaning our Trevelyan could have lost a sibling in the blast. That would have been a nice personal side note to add for the humans.

That is exactly what the canon states. The mage is not the youngest sibling. The warrior or rogue is.

Whether the mage exists in the case of a warrior/rogue playthrough is uncertain, but they probably do. And the youngest sibling could have been at the conclave in the mage playthrough. In any case, there were Trevelyan relatives at the conclave no matter what you play as.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

That is exactly what the canon states. The mage is not the youngest sibling. The warrior or rogue is.

Whether the mage exists in the case of a warrior/rogue playthrough is uncertain, but they probably do. And the youngest sibling could have been at the conclave in the mage playthrough. In any case, there were Trevelyan relatives at the conclave no matter what you play as.

 

This is what I think is the case - Trevelyans were at the conclave regardless of you being a Mage Trevelyan or Non-Mage Trevelyan.