I don't have any sort of way to capture video off my Xbox 360. This is a link to Zevik's Soldier Insanity playthrough. Kaidan says the "except for you" line" beginning at 3:12. Keep in mind, this Shep is a soldier (not a biotic) and Kaidan still says the line as though he is talking to a biotic Shep.
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I think I get it. Since I usually romance him, I get a different conversation tree in the beginning of the Conatix convo.
Well, for one thing, Jack is more in line with a Vanguard than an Adept in both gameplay and cutscenes, whatever her skill evolutions might say. And technically Shepard can pull off some similar Biotic stuff to Jack as a Vanguard in ME3 (combining the Biotic Charge with Heavy Melee's biotic variant makes for a very badass feeling). It's worth mentioning that Shepard's increase in biotic power in ME2/ME3 came about because Cerberus replaced his/her biotic implant with a newer model. The L5x implant that Jack makes as her unique upgrade is the Adept upgrade and not the Vanguard upgrade, which might actually mean Jack isn't operating at her fullest potential, since the features of L5x as described are more tailored to Adept abilities like Singularity.
"But the lore itself was a mess. Kaidan was supposed to be first generation human biotics (as they are mostly accidentals) and yet Miranda is older than Kaidan and was genetically engineered to have biotics.. like how on earth her father know how to do that especially when humanity don't even know how biotics came to be."
Humanity knew enough about biotics. They were just stubborn about getting help learning how to use them. The actual information about what caused biotics would have been a quick Extranet wikipedia search away once they were invited to join the Council races.
Adept P. Shepard of course much stronger 
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Jack. She is on the extreme end of the power bell curve. If Shep had that kind of biotic power she'd have been experimented on by Cerberus.
Jack is the more powerful biotic, Shepard is more proficient with combat in general. Though I imagine especially with the cerberus upgrades biotic Shepard is in the top tier of powerful biotics along with Miranda and Jack. Though it was only Jack and Samara that could successfully maintain the bubble during the SM. I always wondered if that should have been an option for biotic Shepard.
Jack is the more powerful biotic, Shepard is more proficient with combat in general. Though I imagine especially with the cerberus upgrades biotic Shepard is in the top tier of powerful biotics along with Miranda and Jack. Though it was only Jack and Samara that could successfully maintain the bubble during the SM. I always wondered if that should have been an option for biotic Shepard.
Not an option since it effectively takes him/her out of combat. None of the squad mates holding the bubble are able to return fire in any way.
Also, Jack and Samara (and Morinth?) are supposed to be roughly on par I think. Samara was able to pull a moving skycar (Shadow Broker video footage), and is also able to use her biotic to float in both ME2 and ME3 custscenes. In ME3, Adept Shepard and I think Kaidan can comment on this in the Ardat-Yakshi Monastery and Shepard will say that is beyond their ability.
In the playthrough I did the convo went something like this:
Shep: can you do that?
Kaidan: possibly but not in the next 15 minutes
I remember because it made me laugh.
There is a line from Kaidan than I heard in my first playthrough of Mass Effect 1, just after you get out of the medbay, about Adept Shepard's biotics that I've never heard since.
I think there's a bug that causes Kaidan not to say the line if a bonus talent is used on the Adept.
Personally I headcanon that my Adept Shepard can not do what others can because they did not exclusively train with biotics for combat, instad making sure they could do everything a regular Alliance marine could.
Not an option since it effectively takes him/her out of combat. None of the squad mates holding the bubble are able to return fire in any way.
I would have loved the chance for my Shepard to hold the bubble. Would have made those fights along the way a lot more tense if I couldn't fight back myself but had to direct my squad.
Would have been a nice little special scene just for the Adept, much like the Engineer exclusive moment in the ME3 Omega DLC.
There is a line from Kaidan than I heard in my first playthrough of Mass Effect 1, just after you get out of the medbay, about Adept Shepard's biotics that I've never heard since.
I think there's a bug that causes Kaidan not to say the line if a bonus talent is used on the Adept.
Personally I headcanon that my Adept Shepard can not do what others can because they did not exclusively train with biotics for combat, instad making sure they could do everything a regular Alliance marine could.
I would have loved the chance for my Shepard to hold the bubble. Would have made those fights along the way a lot more tense if I couldn't fight back myself but had to direct my squad.
Would have been a nice little special scene just for the Adept, much like the Engineer exclusive moment in the ME3 Omega DLC.
It's a bit different - the Engineer doesn't to do an entire battle with, presumably, a 3-person squad with Shepard out of action. It would be, I would think, a pretty complex change in the mechanic for just one scene. If Adept Shep holds the barrier with only a 2-person squad to direct, then he/she is at a serious disadvantage, particularly at a higher difficulty. Might have been really cool though if an Adept Shep could have aided the barrier person right at the end by throwing up an additional barrier, perhaps preventing, say, Miranda's barrier from collapsing.
Why would it only be a two person squad? Shepard is simply taking the role of one of the other biotics. There is no reason you could not take a third person into the fight. The Unreal Engine 3 is more than capable of a four person squad.
Hell why not give the player a chance to directly control Garrus, Thane, Samara etc. We played as Joker briefly, why not make that an option for this part of the Suicide Mission too?
Why would it only be a two person squad? Shepard is simply taking the role of one of the other biotics. There is no reason you could not take a third person into the fight. The Unreal Engine 3 is more than capable of a four person squad.
Hell why not give the player a chance to directly control Garrus, Thane, Samara etc. We played as Joker briefly, why not make that an option for this part of the Suicide Mission too?
Whoa, calm down. I said it's a bit different than the Engineer's interrupt... not that it wasn't interesting. Having Shep interrupt and throw up an additional barrier at the end would be more along the same lines as the Engineer's interrupt in ME3. I'm not intimately familiar with game engines, so I honestly don't know how complicated it would be to switch over controls so that the player could manipulating a 3-person squad vs. a 2-person squad. What I was saying is if they just tied up Shepard with the barrier and didn't increase the size of the squad, then the player would be at a disadvantage playing it that way... particularly if they were playing on a higher difficulty. If that were the "sacrifice" that had to be made - i.e. losing Shepard's "gun" - I probably wouldn't bother putting him on the barrier if Jack, Samara, or Morinth were available. If they could give the player a 3-person squad just for that part of the SM, then yeah, it would be interesting. (Keep in mind also that I'm the one here who be saying I'd like to be able to replay levels as my own antagonist just to see if I could be myself on a replay of the battle).
Why would I need to 'calm down'? I was simply asking questions based on your response. Sorry if I came across as aggressive but that was not my intent.
The Unreal Engine has powered many games. Most famously of course the Mass Effect trilogy and Gears of War.
Now of course ME2 came out the year before Gears 3 which of course included, if I recall correctly, four player co-op throughout the campaign with bots replacing missing human members. Given development times however it is not unreasonable to think that Epic was using four player at the same time as ME2 was in development. Given that they make money from licensing the engine, I'm sure they'd share.
Of course this is all wonderful hindsight, but discussing alternate ways the games could have played out is still interesting for me.
It would've been nice if Shepard could've taken over the bubble when the squadmate tires out preventing a squadmate from being taken by the seeker swarms
Story wise seems to be Jack but actual combat wise it seems to be Shepard because he/she has more abilities to use and gain.
I believe that, when she tells you about her upgrade in ME2, she indicates that they are "plans for those L5X's, still got 'em in my head." I would say, lore-wise, Jack is presented as being the strongest known human biotic. However, when the points are tallied for the SM in ME2, she is listed as being one of the weaker characters on the team.
That's what I find annoying about the disconnect between gameplay and cutscene.
Jack destroys Ymir mechs with ease during her escape but in gameplay she is one of the worst characters to put against them.
Story-wise, jack.
Gameplay-wise, shepard. Althought that's up to each one's personal canon, and skill.
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