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I've seen The Thing several times and it ended up one of my favourite horror/sci-fi films ever, that was a "good" kind of disgusting, it was creative alien.
But a bunch of psychopaths killing and raping random people for sadistic pleasure is TRULY disgusting, and I say this as someone who finds 2001 a masterpiece, but of course that was a completely different kind of film.


Sure. But what does this have to do with my post?
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Which tells you all you need to know about not only that game but this thread.

Porn is free these days, sometimes I wake up and watch porn while I'm having coffee. Coffee pot porn I call it.

Nudity is fine it was in DAI it will be in Adroptika as well.

What you don't drink Ryncol anymore? No Ryncol pot porn?

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Yep. Read Sinners in the hands of an angry god and the crucible.

Each and every time I hear/read the word "crucible" I think of a giant microphone.

Maybe The Reapers wanted to sing a song in loving memory of that hero known as Marauder Shields.
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Bethesda doesn't have nudity.

 

but where there's modding, there's boobs.

 

Actually older Elder Scrolls games had some pretty gratuitous nudity in places. Bethesda moved to a more realistic idea of what medieval fantasy would look like from Morrowind on up, though.

 

The Skyrim modding community loves its sexy mods. And mod showcase videos tend to stick some thong-wearing lady butt into the thumbnail of videos where, frankly, they have no business being--since the mod on show is usually about shrubbery textures being shiny and HD or something. That kind of thing gives the modding community for Bethesda games a reputation for being a bunch of horny dudes who just want more sex in their games. Not entirely fair--there are a lot of great mods for the Elder Scrolls games out there.

 

It's not like with Mass Effect, where you have to intentionally go hunting for the nude mods, though. Although I guess it could be compared to Dragon Age, where in their efforts to fix the awkward stiff stock-animation crap of the love scenes, modders tend to overcorrect and turn it into a really badly-animated CG porn video. I'd kind of like to just find a mod for that stuff that hits it in the middle, keeps the romantic movie love-scene intent but improves upon the look and feel of the scene. I'm sure there's one out there, but, ugh, digging through the XXX stuff to find it... >_>;;

I have nothing against nudity, exactly, but when suddenly Dragon Age is more explicit than The Witcher 3, it breaks my immersion.



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I wonder why Mass Effect - like most of the American video game and movie industry (Hollywood) - has such a big problem with nudity.

 

Q. Why is it so hard for you to understand that showing nudity and explicit content is a sensitive and explosive subject around the world?

 

Countries that allow explicit content do not rule the world (not yet, anyway.). There are many countries that have very tough laws about nudity and explicitness in media content. All game producers (and all media publishers) have to be careful in this regard. I don't begrudge a company that needs to produce sales in multiple countries over pushing the line with nudity, or more. 

 

IMO, BW's willingness to include romance in the game does not require them to go full explicit. And just because there is violence in a mature game, it does not require that all mature content has to be shown to the fullest degree.


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Sure. But what does this have to do with my post?

That C. Orange is just not my kind of "disgusting". I'd rather watch the Thing biting people's heads lol.

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Yep. Read Sinners in the hands of an angry god and the crucible.


Yeah,we got those too. Though The Crucible is more about the 50s.

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What you don't drink Ryncol anymore? No Ryncol pot porn?


I'm sobering up for EA play.

*Sips grease*
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Q. Why is it so hard for you to understand that showing nudity and explicit content is a sensitive and explosive subject around the world?

Countries that allow explicit content do not rule the world (not yet, anyway.). There are many countries that have very tough laws about nudity and explicitness in media content. All game producers (and all media publishers) have to be careful in this regard. I don't begrudge a company that needs to produce sales in multiple countries over pushing the line with nudity, or more.

IMO, BW's willingness to include romance in the game does not require them to go full explicit. And just because there is violence in a mature game, it does not require that all mature content has to be shown to the fullest degree.

Mostly only in America. Europeans for example aren't really fazed by it like we are because of cultural differences.

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I'm sobering up for EA play.

*Sips grease*

You're not the Krogan you used to be. Promise me you'll go back to Ryncol after EA play. I know it's sound bad but Krogan don't have the same health problems when its comes to stuff like that. Don't you have like 3 livers?

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Yeah,we got those too. Though The Crucible is more about the 50s.

Well it's about the witchhunts and all that bull about how power corrupts. it was perfect for the time period because of McCarthy and the red scare.

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That C. Orange is just not my kind of "disgusting". I'd rather watch the Thing biting people's heads lol.


OK. But that means that calling something "disgusting" doesn't really tell us much about it; we need to get into the particular type of disgusting.

And yeah, Alex's behavior is supposed to be repulsive. He's an awful person who does awful things.
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Well it's about the witchhunts and all that bull that was going on back in thethay. It was perfect for the time period because of McCarthy and the red scare.


Right. Red hunt, witch hunt..... what's the difference?

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Right. Red hunt, witch hunt..... what's the difference?

No difference.

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You're not the Krogan you used to be. Promise me you'll go back to Ryncol after EA play. I know it's sound bad but Krogan don't have the same health problems when its comes to stuff like that. Don't you have like 3 livers?


I sold one for science.

Bought a Varren.

Ate it.

*Pours a little Ryncol on the curb for lost pets*
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I sold one for science.

Bought a Varren.

Ate it.

*Pours a little Ryncol on the curb for lost pets*

Hope it was worth it. You should join me at my safe house on Omega. I'm in deep **** with some "people" and I needed a place to hide out. After EA play I'll be grillin some pyjak fingers and Space cow burgers. Don't tell anyone but I got a hold of two salarian livers. They are to die for. I have no ill will towards them but they have awesome livers. You're invited.

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Hope it was worth it. You should join me at my safe house on Omega. I'm in deep **** with some "people" and I needed a place to hide out. After EA play I'll be grillin some pyjak fingers and Space cow burgers. Don't tell anyone but I got a hold of two salarian livers. They are to die for. I have no ill will towards them but they have awesome livers. You're invited.


This sounds like a trap.

When I arrive you'll probably be wearing red in a candle lit room, listening to Barry Manilow.

Breeding request rejected.
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Actually I learned about it in English class more than History.

 

As somebody who has an actual interest in learning history, the actual history class in school was pretty much useless. At least it was in Canada where we call it Social Studies and it's combined with politics.

 

They need something they can test you on, so 90% of it is just memorizing dates. Real history is like reading good lore for a game.

 

Only probably more violent =P

 

Actually older Elder Scrolls games had some pretty gratuitous nudity in places. Bethesda moved to a more realistic idea of what medieval fantasy would look like from Morrowind on up, though.

 

The Skyrim modding community loves its sexy mods. And mod showcase videos tend to stick some thong-wearing lady butt into the thumbnail of videos where, frankly, they have no business being--since the mod on show is usually about shrubbery textures being shiny and HD or something. That kind of thing gives the modding community for Bethesda games a reputation for being a bunch of horny dudes who just want more sex in their games. Not entirely fair--there are a lot of great mods for the Elder Scrolls games out there.

 

It's not like with Mass Effect, where you have to intentionally go hunting for the nude mods, though. Although I guess it could be compared to Dragon Age, where in their efforts to fix the awkward stiff stock-animation crap of the love scenes, modders tend to overcorrect and turn it into a really badly-animated CG porn video. I'd kind of like to just find a mod for that stuff that hits it in the middle, keeps the romantic movie love-scene intent but improves upon the look and feel of the scene. I'm sure there's one out there, but, ugh, digging through the XXX stuff to find it... >_>;;

I have nothing against nudity, exactly, but when suddenly Dragon Age is more explicit than The Witcher 3, it breaks my immersion.

 

It's a standard in marketing, if you put an attractive person on the front it'll draw more attention even if they have nothing to do with it. Both guys and girls will do it.

 

Although my general opinion is that if we're going to go around parading the fact that we're "mature" now with games like TW3 and Inquisition then we ought to actually act the part. We don't need to throw nudity in the player's face just as a "look at those boobs!" type of deal but if you walk into a brothel? Yeah, there should be nudity.

 

I'd also say that it probably should be there during the sex scene, but games as a whole should stop acting like sex is the ultimate prize of a romantic relationship.

 

As far as the animation goes I felt TW3 was actually pretty good. Awkward for the poor intern that had to sort through 16 hours of motion capture sex, but their sacrifice was worth it.


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This sounds like a trap.

When I arrive you'll probably be wearing red in a candle lit room, listening to Barry Manilow.

Breeding request rejected.

Hey I don't swing that way anyway though I'm flattered. Don't worry, I invited an Asari Dancer and former commando who says she likes "big" things and by "big" I mean Krogan big. But if that's not your style I'm sure you'll find at least one person there to give your "breeding request" to.

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As somebody who has an actual interest in learning history, the actual history class in school was pretty much useless. At least it was in Canada where we call it Social Studies and it's combined with politics.

They need something they can test you on, so 90% of it is just memorizing dates. Real history is like reading good lore for a game.

Only probably more violent =P


It's a standard in marketing, if you put an attractive person on the front it'll draw more attention even if they have nothing to do with it. Both guys and girls will do it.

Although my general opinion is that if we're going to go around parading the fact that we're "mature" now with games like TW3 and Inquisition then we ought to actually act the part. We don't need to throw nudity in the player's face just as a "look at those boobs!" type of deal but if you walk into a brothel? Yeah, there should be nudity.

I'd also say that it probably should be there during the sex scene, but games as a whole should stop acting like sex is the ultimate prize of a romantic relationship.

As far as the animation goes I felt TW3 was actually pretty good. Awkward for the poor intern that had to sort through 16 hours of motion capture sex, but their sacrifice was worth it.

we call it social studies in America too. Or history it doesn't matter. Basically same as you guys but I'm sure Canadian history is diff.

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we call it social studies in America too. Or history it doesn't matter. Basically same as you guys but I'm sure Canadian history is diff.

 

We also study history of other countries but apparently it's not set in stone which country the teacher or school has to pick. I learned history of France while my sister got Japan.

 

Basically all of my knowledge about American history right now comes from the YouTube series Crash Course.


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We also study history of other countries but apparently it's not set in stone which country the teacher or school has to pick. I learned history of France while my sister got Japan.

Basically all of my knowledge about American history right now comes from the YouTube series Crash Course.

Here's Americans in a nutshell. We're just like you but we don't use the metric system and we like to be arrogant and sometimes rigid. At least that's what I believe. I'm not a people expert. I like Canadians. You're cool. Do you speak French or does that depend on which province you're from?
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Right. Red hunt, witch hunt..... what's the difference?

About 260 years and a nasty ergot outbreak


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Here's Americans in a nutshell. We're just like you but we don't use the metric system and we like to be arrogant and sometimes rigid. At least that's what I believe. I'm not a people expert. I like Canadians. You're cool. Do you speak French or does that depend on which province you're from?

 

Depends on the province. Since I live in Alberta which is in western Canada we never really had to learn French past about grade 6. I dated a girl from Quebec(the French province) for a while and she taught me some more of it, but that was a while ago now.

 

It's something I feel like I should know, though. I'll probably learn properly it at some point.


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I think that my favorite Martin quote is appropriate here:


“I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it’s madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure; axes entering skulls, well, not so much.”

― George R.R. Martin

 

To be absolutely fair, Martin isn't that good at writing sex scenes. Fat pink mast anyone?

 

That said, I don't think Mass Effect needs that much more nudity. Inquisition was fine in that regard; people having sex are nude, as they should be. Short of really focusing on the act in a softcore porn way, there's not much more they can do.

 

Plus, pixelated sex never escapes the uncanny valley to me. No matter how much effort is put in. I can forgive stylized combat because, to put it simply, I've had sex, but I've never entered an axe into someone's skull. So far at least.


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