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[Gwydden]

True, but the thing is, the less sensible (or rational) people do not fare well in combat, especially prolonged combat.-
I've read many books written by people who participated in combat and fought in wars and no matter the period or war, they all had one thing in common: they were among the most level headed, pragmatic and sensible people of their time.

Most people who participated in wars likely didn't know how to write, or just weren't interested in doing so, so the sample you are using is not representative, in my view.

 

I should point out that I think beards and long hair look awful on men and I think women can look quite attractive with short hair as well, so I don't even have an aesthetic issue with being restricted to military regulations in this respect. Hell, I would prefer it, since I also agree that short hair is by far the more practical and sensible choice in this case, and I'm even willing to concede that most professional armies throughout history have enforced it. 

 

But generally, every time the subject of "realistic" fighting looks comes up, I feel compelled to point out that 1. people throughout history often went to battle in rather impractical garb and/or haircuts for any number of reasons and 2. this isn't even close to the most unrealistic thing about ME.

 

Guys, I'd really appreciate it if you could take that discussion/argument to another thread, please.

 

There's one here where similar issues and opinions are already being discussed:

Long hair for female character?

My bad. I actually got the two threads mixed up. Sorry.

[SKAR]

Guys, I'd really appreciate it if you could take that discussion/argument to another thread, please.

There's one here where similar issues and opinions are already being discussed:
Long hair for female character?

You must be new. Yeah.....that's not how these things play out.

[Neyjour]

My bad. I actually got the two threads mixed up. Sorry.

No prob!  Thanks.

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

I'd like a nice ponytail . I never really like the ponytail options Bioware have given before. The actual ponytails look weird to me.

Nice pixie cuts. And finally, shaved head bit ? I really loved that hair style they had in DAI with the partly shaved hair.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Most people who participated in wars likely didn't know how to write, or just weren't interested in doing so, so the sample you are using is not representative, in my view.

In world war 1, 2, Bosnian-Serb war and Vietnam they did, and its pretty clear. Several of those men had their entire squads and companies wiped out multiple times, with only one or two survivors. The people that were less rational and sensible were the first that got wiped out, every single time. You should read a couple of those books. 

 

 

 

But generally, every time the subject of "realistic" fighting looks comes up, I feel compelled to point out that 1. people throughout history often went to battle in rather impractical garb and/or haircuts for any number of reasons and 2. this isn't even close to the most unrealistic thing about ME.

 

 

Yes, but why do we call it impractical now? Because it had a negative impact on the combat capabilities of the soldiers an we don't want to repeat those mistakes. People went to battle in impractical garbs and hair cuts is no excuse for being too lenient with things that might compromise soldiers ability to fight today.  

I completely agree with point 2 however, but I merely wrote an answer to ''combat haircut'' which wasn't really about ME itself. 

[Monk]

Not picky but this'll do:

 

 

lulz

[piloteyre]

I'd be perfectly happy with the standard buns and pixie cuts for women, but only if Bioware manages to make them look like actual hair. In theory, some of Inquisition's hairstyles would have been fine, but the hair looked like it was made from a solid hunk of plastic, and the updos were so severe with very little volume or realistic looking bangs/strands of hair to soften the hairlines. I don't know if it's an issue with learning the new engine, but they need to figure that out. I don't know what to blame to male pattern baldness hairlines for women on, but the less said about those the better.

 

I thought Elena's hair in Uncharted was great, and it was pretty sensible.

 

 

Updo's like hers would be nice. On the practical side but still cute, and a little messy, like real buns tend to get. Longer ponytails would be nice too - if they clip with armor, well, they clip. I think that's a sacrifice a lot of people who want long hair are willing to make, and it's on you if you don't want to wear a helmet during combat anyway.

[SNascimento]

As much as I loved Rita in Edge of tomorrow, I did not like her hair. Combat hair style? If I get close enough I could grab her hair and pull her goddamn scalp off her skull. Wouldn't that be nice?

No soldier who is serving on the front lines risks sporting hair that could get caught, pulled or catch flames leading to serious injury or inability to continue the fight. Avoiding injury and being able to fight are priorities number one and two in combat.

Well, part of Rita's character is that you would not ever be able to get that close to her, not alive that is. 

But I get your point. However, that would means the only acceptable hairs for soldiers would be either no hair at all or almost no hair. Becuase the problems you listed would be there even with short hair. And that would be boring in a fictional tale. 
 

[KaiserShep]

As much as I loved Rita in Edge of tomorrow, I did not like her hair. Combat hair style? If I get close enough I could grab her hair and pull her goddamn scalp off her skull. Wouldn't that be nice?

No soldier who is serving on the front lines risks sporting hair that could get caught, pulled or catch flames leading to serious injury or inability to continue the fight. Avoiding injury and being able to fight are priorities number one and two in combat.

 

 

I dunno. Any enemy strong enough to grab someone's hair and yank their scalp off their skull could probably do the same to Tom Cruise's character. But I guess that's kind of irrelevant against a swarm of killer land squids that shoot javelins. 

[Giant ambush beetle]

Well, part of Rita's character is that you would not ever be able to get that close to her, not alive that is. 

But I get your point. However, that would means the only acceptable hairs for soldiers would be either no hair at all or almost no hair. Becuase the problems you listed would be there even with short hair. And that would be boring in a fictional tale. 
 

 

If it sounded like I oppose ''impractical'' haircuts in ME:A I need to clarify here and now that I love options. The more hair styles the better! I'm totally with the guys and girls that want all kinds of long and semi-long hairstyles, even if I wont be using them. The more flexible the CC gets the better.  

 

That short hair cuts  are boring is a popular misconception though, if you give it enough thought you can come up with a multitude of different short hairstyles.

It doesn't always have to be either bald or buzzcut. There is neat, messy, undercut etc. 

 

 

 

 

[KaiserShep]

^This I can agree with. As one who generally favors short hair on my female PC's, BioWare needs to really get its act together and provide more interesting models, short or long.

[SNascimento]

If it sounded like I oppose ''impractical'' haircuts in ME:A I need to clarify here and now that I love options. The more hair styles the better! I'm totally with the guys and girls that want all kinds of long and semi-long hairstyles, even if I wont be using them. The more flexible the CC gets the better.  

 

That short hair cuts  are boring is a popular misconception though, if you give it enough thought you can come up with a multitude of different short hairstyles.

It doesn't always have to be either bald or buzzcut. There is neat, messy, undercut etc. 

Oh I agree sir. Short hair can be awesome. Indeed, one of my favorite hair styles from ME3 was a short one. 

What I meant is that all those hairs suffer the problems you first mentioned. Probably less, but if you are going to the maximum advantage in combat, they would still be a liability, no?

[Neyjour]

The bald option is something that's never appealed to me (for either male or female chars), but while browsing for more hairstyles I stumbled onto this, which looks pretty wicked, IMO. 

 

If we had some creative and nicely designed combinations of tattoos/markings on bald (or almost-bald) heads, I might actually be tempted to go bald for the first time (in a game).

 

Spoiler

All Poweful ****** by Hidrico

 

For options like these, what would be ideal is to have the ability to select different colours for each tattoo/marking (if there are multiple ones on a single head).  And if there's a slight fuzz of hair, same thing... different colours for hair and tattoos/markings.

[Giant ambush beetle]

What I meant is that all those hairs suffer the problems you first mentioned. Probably less, but if you are going to the maximum advantage in combat, they would still be a liability, no?

At a certain length, most of the problems I mentioned become pretty much non-existent. Given how ME deals with realism I think most but the longest of those haircuts I posted would be good enough for me I guess. 

 

Though creating a female no BS super soldier character with a stunning face and bald shaved head looks really cool in my head, aesthetically I mean.  

[DuskWanderer]

Hair is really hard to render, especially if you have a lot of it. The movement of hair is always stiff. I think the fanbase will never be pleased with it, but my heartfelt advice for those who complain about the hair: It's harder than you think, stop whining about it. 

[SKAR]

We complain because they allow it and we will have better hair because we demand it.

[SKAR]

Hair is really hard to render, especially if you have a lot of it. The movement of hair is always stiff. I think the fanbase will never be pleased with it, but my heartfelt advice for those who complain about the hair: It's harder than you think, stop whining about it.

technology is getting better and better. The frostbite 3 is one of the best engines out there. Have you seen Mirrors edge cat? Looks great.

[rocklikeafool]

Also manbuns and mantails.

http://i.dailymail.c...46485257549.jpg

http://www.menhairst...en-Ponytail.jpg

http://farm8.static....a3094bdac_m.jpg
 
https://s-media-cach...4f8139a4251.jpg
 

 

Even Abraham Lincoln wore one;
http://www.google.dk...465585746526883

You are awful.

[SKAR]

You are awful.

Yeah. Ponytails are good but only if done correctly.

[O'Voutie O'Rooney]

Grace Kelly, hair and all, for fem-protaganist (with accompanying battle pooch).

[SKAR]

Grace Kelly, hair and all, for femshep (with accompanying battle pooch).

You mean femwhoeverthenameoftheprotagonistitmaybeRyder.

[Khrystyn]

I thought Elena's hair in Uncharted was great, and it was pretty sensible.

 

 

Updo's like hers would be nice.

 

I whole-hardheartedly like this hair style. Though I'm interested in shoulder length, this up-do hair style is both attractive and yet not distracting. It's a nice example to post!

 

Her hair has nice natural movement in-game too.

[O'Voutie O'Rooney]

You mean femwhoeverthenameoftheprotagonistitmaybeRyder.

Thanks. Fixed. Writing "femshep" has become habit.

[Sartoz]

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Prediction:

More helmets to hide hair

More alien heads without human hair

Two human females with reasonable hair

No Rest&Recreation style outfits and the ladies letting it all out.

[SKAR]

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Prediction:
More helmets to hide hair
More alien heads without human hair
Two human females with reasonable hair
No Rest&Recreation style outfits and the ladies letting it all out.

We are getting see through helmets now.