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I'm not sure I understand your post, but I want to understand it. Are you saying research vessels often have names pulled from literature?

Tempest does look small. She's definitely no bigger than Normandy SR1, and possibly smaller. It's hard to tell, even with all of the shots we get of her landed on the various worlds. We never see the full ship in any of those shots. It certainly would make sense, on multiple levels, if she were not a frigate.

Nope, just that whichever new class of vessel the Tempest is a part of, it'd make sense for them to be named after works of literature, if only 'cause there's more names to choose between than there would be if they were named after, say, meteorological phenomena. Here, I'll take the dashes out to make it a little clearer:

 

"My suspicion is that, whichever classification of ship the Tempest is, the tradition is to name ships of the class after famous works of literature. "

 

Scientific research ships have all sorts of names. The earliest examples - HMS Beagle and HMS Challenger - were just repurposed naval craft, and so followed the same naming traditions as the rest of the navy. Later ships, built explicitly for exploration, tended to have names that evoked their purpose - Endeavour, Terra Nova, Endurance, and so on - or were named for famous explorers, scientists and naturalists--the RRS Sir David Attenborough being the most recent example.



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I like it-nice colouring and sleek design. Landing on planets is a plus.



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"My suspicion is that, whichever classification of ship the Tempest is, the tradition is to name ships of the class after famous works of literature. "

 

There isn't any rule of the universe that ships within a class all have the same sort of name.  I don't know why anybody is making a deal out of it.



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That's sideline lore, right? I've never heard a destroyer being mentioned in the games.

Nah, it's not based on any existing lore, from the books or otherwise. I just don't think it's outside the realm of possibility for the Alliance - or whichever organisation we're actually a part of in Andromeda; if it is the Alliance, they seem to have finally overcome the compulsion to paint everything blue and stencil, like, sixty logos on there for good measure* - to have come up with a new weight classification. (Or, indeed, simply borrowed one from actual naval history.)

 

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*Which means we get a sexy SR-1-esque red, silver-white and black paintjob for the Tempest, so I'm happy!

 

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capn233, on 13 Jun 2016 - 3:57 PM, said:

There isn't any rule of the universe that ships within a class all have the same sort of name.  I don't know why anybody is making a deal out of it.

 

Oh, I know, but it is mentioned in the codex that the Alliance likes to use theme naming with its ship classes. Honestly, I just like the idea of having a whole bunch of ships named after works of literature.



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Also while on the subject... the play is The Tempest.

 

If it were actually named for the play, the name should be The Tempest.

 

It should not be Tempest, which would be naming it after the weather phenomenon.  I guess you can say "inspired by a play."



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And we'd get the:

 

Hurricane

Blizzard

Tornado

Cyclone

Typhoon

 

Which is cool.


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Nope, just that whichever new class of vessel the Tempest is a part of, it'd make sense for them to be named after works of literature, if only 'cause there's more names to choose between than there would be if they were named after, say, meteorological phenomena. Here, I'll take the dashes out to make it a little clearer:
 
"My suspicion is that, whichever classification of ship the Tempest is, the tradition is to name ships of the class after famous works of literature. "
 
Scientific research ships have all sorts of names. The earliest examples - HMS Beagle and HMS Challenger - were just repurposed naval craft, and so followed the same naming traditions as the rest of the navy. Later ships, built explicitly for exploration, tended to have names that evoked their purpose - Endeavour, Terra Nova, Endurance, and so on - or were named for famous explorers, scientists and naturalists--the RRS Sir David Attenborough being the most recent example.


Understood.

I'm guessing Tempest will turn out to be a corvette, since she looks smaller than the SR1, which was the smaller of the two frigates we got to see up close.

I am curious about the name. I hope we will get an explanation via codex, dev diary or something, at some point. I'm sure we will. The codex entries are typically more than abundant.

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SG:U's Destiny. Just sayin'...
 

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Also while on the subject... the play is The Tempest.

If it were actually named for the play, the name should be The Tempest.

It should not be Tempest, which would be naming it after the weather phenomenon. I guess you can say "inspired by a play."

Unfortunately, everyone will say "The Tempest", regardless, just as they always say "The Normandy". It annoys me. I'm not sure why it's so confusing to think of the ship's name as a proper name. Don't put an article in front of it, ever. Ever, BioWare! ;)

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Unfortunately, everyone will say "The Tempest", regardless, just as they always say "The Normandy". It annoys me. I'm not sure why it's so confusing to think of the ship's name as a proper name. Don't put an article in front of it, ever. Ever, BioWare! ;)

 

Yeah it is common for people to slap articles in front of ship names.  It is probably more common in informal conversation than not, especially since it is done this way in nearly all of pop culture.  Interestingly, EDI did not in ME2 (at least to the best of my memory).  She started in ME3 though.

 

It would be pretty great if it was in fact named The Tempest and then people called it "the The Tempest."


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Very sleek!! Love the name as well. Going to enjoy commanding this just as much as the Normandy I think.

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Very sleek!! Love the name as well. Going to enjoy commanding this just as much as the Normandy I think.

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There isn't any rule of the universe that ships within a class all have the same sort of name.  I don't know why anybody is making a deal out of it.

Just clutching at straws to figure out what we see by remembering what we know?



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In terms of color it reminds me of SR1. I hope she's big.

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Guess it's official. From the EA Play teaser:
 
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Hello there sexy  ;)



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I bet it was designed by Kihm and the ship will have Flasks of Fire, Flasks of Frost and Flasks of Lightning as ammunition.



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I bet it was designed by Kihm and the ship will have Flasks of Fire, Flasks of Frost and Flasks of Lightning as ammunition.

That doesn't sound bad.

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In terms of color it reminds me of SR1. I hope she's big.

 

 

 

At around 0:33 if you pause just right, you get the sense that it's about as large as the original, and maybe smaller, the way that square area looks so huge. On the SR-1, the hangar is streamlined with the rest of the vessel. And unlike past ships, this one lands.



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Cool design. I hope the pilot has that brittle bones disease - otherwise, ya know, it won't be the hero's ship anymore. ;)



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At around 0:33 if you pause just right, you get the sense that it's about as large as the original, and maybe smaller, the way that square area looks so huge. On the SR-1, the hangar is streamlined with the rest of the vessel. And unlike past ships, this one lands.


The SR1 would sometimes land. It just didn't happen too often, since it had that "Mako airdrop" thing happening. I probably thought that was cool the first time I saw it, but I soon grew to "not love" it. It disliked it with a very neutral dislike.

The SR2 was explicitly stated to be too massive for landing and low-atmo shenanigans in the codices, thus the shuttles. Of course, we quickly see her landing and doing all sorts of the like in the game. Illium, for instance, is a massive world, yet there she is, mile-high arcologies or not. Oh, well. I guess I'm not supposed to notice the details in my Science Fiction.

Tempest definitely looks like a smaller, surface-landing ship by design. I'm excited to walk or drive right out and get to business!

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And we'd get the:

 

Hurricane

Blizzard

Tornado

Cyclone

Typhoon

 

Which is cool.

 

There's an example of this naming in the human history, too.

 

The Hurricane, the Tornado, the Typhoon, the Tempest.



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The SR2 was explicitly stated to be too massive for landing and low-atmo shenanigans in the codices, thus the shuttles.

 

IIRC what EDI says is that SR2 can't land on high gravity worlds.


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The SR1 would sometimes land. It just didn't happen too often, since it had that "Mako airdrop" thing happening. I probably thought that was cool the first time I saw it, but I soon grew to "not love" it. It disliked it with a very neutral dislike.

The SR2 was explicitly stated to be too massive for landing and low-atmo shenanigans in the codices, thus the shuttles. Of course, we quickly see her landing and doing all sorts of the like in the game. Illium, for instance, is a massive world, yet there she is, mile-high arcologies or not. Oh, well. I guess I'm not supposed to notice the details in my Science Fiction.

Tempest definitely looks like a smaller, surface-landing ship by design. I'm excited to walk or drive right out and get to business!

 

Illium has a major port that would likely by able to accomodate the Normandy.

 

It can't land, and in-atmo flight is problematic. Question is if low-atmo is possible, but being a frigate, it's likely not impossible. Wiki actually states it can't land on every world, suggesting that some places, a landing might be possible. It also never quite lands, it just hovers in all cutscenes. Landings with the SR-2 occur in major ports only.



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Illium has a major port that would likely by able to accomodate the Normandy.

 

It can't land, and in-atmo flight is problematic. Question is if low-atmo is possible, but being a frigate, it's likely not impossible. Wiki actually states it can't land on every world, suggesting that some places, a landing might be possible. It also never quite lands, it just hovers in all cutscenes. Landings with the SR-2 occur in major ports only.

 

Yeah.  And in reality even if they can land it is a waste of fuel to land instead of just staying in orbit and sending a shuttle.  Probably should have always done that, but the Illium aerobraking looked cool.


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I must say that the Tempest is a sleek, sexy looking space vessel. I particularly like the canards.