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[SolNebula]

It would be nice to have a confirmation from BW that the game development is going well and that everything is on schedule. The tweet of the ME1/2 Lead Animator is kind of worrying me to be honest. He might be salty and all but he certainly knows game development.

[goofyomnivore]

Ok, I confused the date it was announced with the date we got the first teaser. 3 years then, since the first teaser was released et E3 2014 and the game will not be out until next year, at this rate probably only a few months before E3 at best. Let's be realistic and round that up to 3 years, shall we? https://en.wikipedia...fect:_Andromeda

 

Edit: Actually, I was right in saying 4 years. E3 2014, E3 2015, E3 2016, and by the time this game comes out in 2017 around E3 2017, it will effectively have been nearly 4 years since the first teaser trailer. I had erroneously subtracted 2014 from 2017, resulting in just 3 years, when it's actually 4.

Cyberpunk 2077 was teased in 2013 nothing else has been said about it since, and it is a projected 2018 game. I dunno they got 10-12 months until a Spring 2017 release date. I'd be worried about lack of gameplay stuff when we're down to six or five months to go.

[Vespasian 91]

Disappointed with how much was showing, but what they did show looks amazing. Holding out for news of backwards compatible ME 2/3 for the Xbox presentation, will hellp with the disappointment.

[Ralfufigus]

I'm definitely with you in that I want to see actual gameplay, but in my opinion, this is still better than nothing. I was pretty disappointed when I was watching the stream and realized it was just a BTS trailer, but I'm still just glad that we got to see something...

[Statare]

I think the ME:A team is definitely responding to the problems of the development cycle of DA:I, because in DA:I they showed gameplay really early, and they talked about things they hoped would be in the game openly (dirty armor mechanics, keep mechanics, enemy spawn mechanics, etc.) that ended up getting cut from the final game, and many critiques of the game by fans were colored by disappointed expectations. So.

 

I agree though, a year before launch it would be nice to have a short and sweet trailer, but I think we did get some tantalizing infos from this BTS thing. It's just that the info is pretty much stuff we knew from the leaks... so basically this was just confirmation of working theories we've had for a while with pretty pictures.

[In Exile]

Really? You'll have to name a few. 'Cause I don't know of any movies that start releasing teaser trailers 4 years before the movie's release and continue releasing teasers up until just a few months before the movie is released.

They also dont release a reel of the actual filming. That's the equivalent here. We obviously get shots from the set leak (or get released) but those are a very different kind of promo. Feature lenght teasers as a making of is a very weird development choice.

[CHRrOME]

A lot of people here are defending Bio, and I respect that.

But I personally am sick of this, why the heck they showed the game on E3 2014 then?, why they keep giving release dates? why they keep teasing info and ask us to "wait for spring/fall" ? Enough of this BS I say.

The lack of an actual release window on this trailer/teaser is proof enough for me that they have no idea when they'll be releasing the game.

 

I'm not asking for a release window this year, I'm just asking them to be more serious. People is sick of teasers and teases, all I see on their tweeter accounts is "yeah the game is looking great, can't wait to show more! " then bloody do it!

Or don't, but stop teasing little to no game content at all. Don't have anything to show? then don't show anything!

 

Promise after promise of more info coming either the next E3/N7/Gamescom/PAX/VGA and we're right were we started on 2014, with nothing but a bunch of 1:30min trailers.

[PlatonicWaffles]

I love Mass Effect.

 

But this is getting ridiculous now. If this is how little they're showing, I'm seriously doubting we're getting a Spring 2017 window.

[Kabraxal]

You guys realise there are a few more expos/conferences out there right? Or that MS or Sony has gotten the rights for the first gameplay reveal... Many different reasons out there and I'd rather the game be closer to finished before seeing actual gameplay. That and I actually don't want too many spoilers beforehand.

[CHRrOME]

You guys realise there are a few more expos/conferences out there right? Or that MS or Sony has gotten the rights for the first gameplay reveal... Many different reasons out there and I'd rather the game be closer to finished before seeing actual gameplay. That and I actually don't want too many spoilers beforehand.

 

EA had their own show. Their OWN show, and showed 10 times more about EASports than ME, which happens to be one of the two EA flag ships.

They don't have to answer to Sony or Microsoft, they own Mass Effect and Bioware, if they weren't to show gameplay of their own game on their own show, then what the F are they doing?

[rapscallioness]

Isn't there going to be more ME:A stuff over the course of the week? I thought this was just a sort of introductory bit.

[Alex_Dur4and]

Another nerd rage thread...

[Drakoriz]

It would be nice to have a confirmation from BW that the game development is going well and that everything is on schedule. The tweet of the ME1/2 Lead Animator is kind of worrying me to be honest. He might be salty and all but he certainly knows game development.

 

That lead animator probabbly is mad as hell he is not part of Bioware anymore. Really you guys should not trust every stupid twit ppl do

[CHRrOME]

Isn't there going to be more ME:A stuff over the course of the week? I thought this was just a sort of introductory bit.

 

More?

 

 

Sorry, but that was it I'm afraid. It technically was an introduction, an introduction to yet another teaser.

[Gramorla]

I like the new Trailer... but somehow i had hoped for more... solid informations on the game. So i am exited and dissapointed at the same time.

 

 

And the lacke of turians is also depressing

[RynJ]

I want to give Bioware the benefit of the doubt, I do, but I've been burned before. This lack of info supposedly less than a year before release is worrying.

[Gothfather]

A lot of people here are defending Bio, and I respect that.

But I personally am sick of this, why the heck they showed the game on E3 2014 then?, why they keep giving release dates? why they keep teasing info and ask us to "wait for spring/fall" ? Enough of this BS I say.

The lack of an actual release window on this trailer/teaser is proof enough for me that they have no idea when they'll be releasing the game.

 

I'm not asking for a release window this year, I'm just asking them to be more serious. People is sick of teasers and teases, all I see on their tweeter accounts is "yeah the game is looking great, can't wait to show more! " then bloody do it!

Or don't, but stop teasing little to no game content at all. Don't have anything to show? then don't show anything!

 

Promise after promise of more info coming either the next E3/N7/Gamescom/PAX/VGA and we're right were we started on 2014, with nothing but a bunch of 1:30min trailers.

 

You are not entitled to the information you want. Just because you WANT it doesn't mean you are entitled to it. Bioware has NO obligation to give you anything. They are not even obligated to release the game ever. There is no industry standard on the practises of keeping people informed about game either so they are not even going against industry trends here.

 

How self centred and entitled do you need to be to think you are owed any information? I am not defending Bioware I am telling petulant adults to stop acting like two year olds. I have no idea if development is going well or poorly and me knowing this WON'T make a FRAKING difference at all. The game will either find its legs in the development cycle or it won't we player can not influence this at all. We are not entitled to this information either, many games that have development difficulties turn out to be good games. Metal gear V the phantom pain had development issues and it is widely viewed as a good game to cite a recent example. Hell there was major turmoil in it's cycle. So difficult development isn't even a benchmark for the quality of the game.

 

I also have no idea if the game is great, terrible, meh, or any place in between, and I don't need to know this yet. stop your tantrum and accept your desire for something means jack sh!t in the real world. bioware will tell us about the game when THEY are ready not when you demand it. If the game sucks don't buy it, if it is good buy it that is all you need to know and you don't need to know that now because the game is not even going to be released this year.

[Gothfather]

It would be nice to have a confirmation from BW that the game development is going well and that everything is on schedule. The tweet of the ME1/2 Lead Animator is kind of worrying me to be honest. He might be salty and all but he certainly knows game development.

 

There have been confirmations on the developer twitter accounts. Shinobi602 an industry insider has seen the game (I beleive even played it) and he has leaked that things are looking good he has stated this is his favourite IP so he has no reason to give it a pass as a fan. So we ARE getting info from the developers and from secondary sources. So you have exactly what you just asked for.

 

(Talks about ME:A at around the 8 min mark give or take a minute.)

In case you have no idea who he is here is a secondary source that shows his leaks are more than just a bit of hot air.

 

https://youtu.be/4fgUd33qqP0?t=46s

 

This video mentions how his past leaks have been confirmed. So even if you are sceptical (which you should be) we are getting information from reliable sources the devs, and a proven to be reliable source Shinobi602 that collaborates what the devs are saying.

 

[Edit] Just to be clear i am not saying this is proof the game will be good or that development is going 100% smoothly. I am just saying that what you asked for has been given to you. Spring of next year we will all have to make our own decision as to whether or not ME:A is worth a buy or not. Until then stop fretting and relax and wait. The game will be done when it is done.

[TruthSerum]

I don't know why, but AAA games that use dev diaries as their primary form of promotion don't seem to turn out all that well. Whenever I see a AAA dev diary trailer I always think of the game Brink. They were masters of the dev diary form of promotion and the actual game stunk up the room. 

 

Plus the whole thing seems so self congratuatory. Stop promoting yourself and promote the game. We want you to start building and defining the world for us leading all the way up to release day whenever that is. We don't want programmers behind computer monitors, we want to be immersed in the game world. 

 

Personally I don't care if the game is pushed all the way back until 2018 as long as the game isn't rushed. Want I don't want is a bunch of programmers stroking themselves on camera about how great they are when the game isn't even out yet. 

[Hrulj]

They are doing themselves a disservice with such trailers, but it is not unusual for Mass Effect. For those who remember back when Mass Effect 2 was in production, they avoided any and all questions on storyline and similar issues, which led to a large segment of fandom thinking it will just be a rehash of Mass Effect 1 with nothing new or good. I guess the Bioware is trying to keep us on the edge, but you can only do that so much. After a while it has the opposite effect where people lose interest

[vbibbi]

Gonna get banned 4 this probably... but...

 

Ekhm...

 

 

I don't know the history behind this guy leaving Bioware but I can't imagine he left on good terms. He is burning bridges!

 

So, I had a thought...

 

All that pre-release gameplay showing off Inquisition was all alpha-style footage that had some stuff cut, if I recall correctly.

 

People complained about it when it wasn't in the final product.

 

Now...BioWare is a bit gun shy in showing anything fully, and keeping it all vague or short so that issue of people complaining about missing features doesn't crop up.

 

And people are complaining about this now too because of the lack of information.

 

I guess BioWare just can't win anymore.

 

Very true. I think a lot of the disappointment for DAI came from cut features from the leaked alpha footage. And that's not truly on Bio since it was leaked and not officially released. I think they really need to take a long look at their marketing techniques, though. Maybe instead of periodically mentioning an upcoming game without providing other information, don't announce the game at all until it's within one year of release (or less). I haven't played FO4 but it sounds like their marketing campaign worked well. The name recognition of the series helped hype the game in a short amount of time. Bioware should be confident that a ME title will sell itself or else provide further details. They're not helping anything by being in the middle.

 

To answer your question it is people who somehow think they are entitled to information. We have known that this game was YEARS away from release when it was announced. We knew last year when we got a glimpse that the game was well over a year away because they gave a tentative release date and we knew going into this EA that the game was closer to a year way than not because of the game was pushed back into 2017. 

 

It isn't Bioware's fault that immature people can't wait and somehow think that knowing a game is coming out entitles them to further information.

 

1) You don't need to know anything now.

2) Your desire for a thing doesn't entitle you to a thing, this includes information.

3) An individual's impatience is their OWN responsibility not anyone else's.

4) A developer doesn't owe you a damn thing at this point of development. They don't even owe you the release of the game. It is perfectly acceptable for them to cancel the project.

5) Bioware has been keeping us up to speed with regards to the game release date, so we are not being kept in the dark we just are not getting details yet which is reasonable given that the game is not even due out this year.

 

The game is at least 8 months if not longer, away from release and this assumes it isn't delayed again as it isn't uncommon for a game to be delayed more than once. There is loads of time for us to learn about the game when it is done. Until such time people need to DEAL. WITH. IT.

 

Um, no Bioware does not owe us anything. But from a business standpoint they shouldn't want to be on bad terms with customers. If they followed your attitude they would be losing fans left and right. If they decide they don't "owe" their audience a game after mentioning it's in production, they might as well close down and be absorbed by other divisions of EA.

 

You are not entitled to the information you want. Just because you WANT it doesn't mean you are entitled to it. Bioware has NO obligation to give you anything. They are not even obligated to release the game ever. There is no industry standard on the practises of keeping people informed about game either so they are not even going against industry trends here.

 

How self centred and entitled do you need to be to think you are owed any information? I am not defending Bioware I am telling petulant adults to stop acting like two year olds. I have no idea if development is going well or poorly and me knowing this WON'T make a FRAKING difference at all. The game will either find its legs in the development cycle or it won't we player can not influence this at all. We are not entitled to this information either, many games that have development difficulties turn out to be good games. Metal gear V the phantom pain had development issues and it is widely viewed as a good game to cite a recent example. Hell there was major turmoil in it's cycle. So difficult development isn't even a benchmark for the quality of the game.

 

I also have no idea if the game is great, terrible, meh, or any place in between, and I don't need to know this yet. stop your tantrum and accept your desire for something means jack sh!t in the real world. bioware will tell us about the game when THEY are ready not when you demand it. If the game sucks don't buy it, if it is good buy it that is all you need to know and you don't need to know that now because the game is not even going to be released this year.

 

Honest question, why are you on this forum right now? If we're not owed any information from Bioware and you're not anticipating any substantial news on the game for some time, all you're doing is attacking other posters here who would like more information. It's like you're willingly walking into a community which is directly opposed to your attitudes on a product. I can see if you want to be part of the Bioware fan community and discuss the existing games, but this is the MEA forum and people here are discussing their hopes for the game.

[Amplitudelol]

Gonna get banned 4 this probably... but...

 

Ekhm...

 

 

They already used up their excuse of Frostbite being new to them. The end result was enormous ammount of cool looking landscape with no content except shards and bs collections in Inquisition. I hope they actually create story and gameplay for the planets, not just "look, a planet, go there and... collect meteorite shards and plant explorer banners... dont be mad, landscape is plenty and looks good, pro reviewers are giving good scores". Hope dies last. Mac Walters said they were only polishing the stuff.but still no gameplay trailer or a single word about it? Fishy. Remember when they made a nice little presentation of Crestwood with cutscenes and dialogs and interactive stuff? They made it for the presentation only, none of it was in the actual game and now they dont even show anything while "polishing".

 

for reference

[Sifr]

Would people prefer they pull a Bethesda and remain silent for years, only to announced a game about 6 months before it's release like with Fallout 4?

 

C'mon, even if it's not perfect with the table scraps of information and footage they're given us, at least we've got a developer who isn't playing their cards so close to the chest we're not even sure what game we're meant to be playing?

 

But as others have said above, I think they're keeping schtum to avoid any more situations like DAI, where some fans were left disappointed when the final game lacked some of the features they'd spoken about and featured in earlier builds. Better to give us a more solid look at a near-complete product, than hype us about something that will get cut at the eleventh hour because it's not working correctly.

[Patchwork]

I would prefer a trailer full of gameplay but I expect to get that sort of thing closer to release.

This trailer was more of a reminder that MEA exists and BW are working hard on it.

[Jimbo_Gee79]

I think people should count themselves lucky they got as much info as they did. 10 years ago there was none of this. 15 years ago the closest you got was magazine articles.